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no no but we don't really see that
i'll have i'll have your id name across
we can't how you have you hanging off
the bottom of the screen like a
chimpanzee
okay
now
i want to do a little advertisement
these are
diamond matches strike on the
on the box i've been using them for like
60 years i used to
like campfires with them and everything
and
they are pos have positively
the worst quality control on the planet
earth
there's supposed to be 250 matches in
there
and probably
80 of them working
80. that's more than one
and the rest of them
they have instead of a regular tip like
other matches they have an incendiary
match that when you strike it it goes
off in 360 degrees all over
there are holes in my shirt you see that
hole
those are what they do they
send holes and they they go flaming all
over they go over to a guest go over on
me
light everything on fire i mean i'm
telling you this is the worst
quality control on the planet earth and
these are respected
blue diamond matches
okay that's all i got to say about that
have you thought maybe you're buying a
different brand of matches there isn't
one there isn't one
no are you going to tell me the united
states is run by the soviet union you've
only got one state-sponsored matchbox
company
so now here's what i'm going to show you
shouldn't show you this because
it's classified
this is classified and it's not going to
be released until the 19th so today's
friday saturday it'll be released on
sunday
and this is
yeah
that's that's serious
not a mistake of the murders of all on
board
okay
now
this is going to be on robert steele's
website
and i tell the whole story
now how it started
and how
the zionists have killed 585 people
using the
boeing
uninterruptable autopilot
it's easy for you to say
good one
now now this is serious this is serious
well it's serious we're talking about
dead people murder
585 of them
you know you have all of the three of ms
370 malaysian 370.
there was 240 there then there was lion
air
uh
150 or 60 there and then ep open
airlines
and
you know this is completely boeing's
fault now they're trying to blame it on
the mcas which is the
uh annie saw program it has nothing to
do with the understall program andy
stahl works in the low-speed regime
all of these happened at high speed
and what they did
is they found out a way to hack
into the
bowling mac boeing 737 max 8 autopilot
and make it go pull down
but now you know there's two autopilots
in all bowling airplanes there's one
that they use normally and then there's
the one that used for any hijack
and the reason they built that one is so
um if it was ever hijacked they could
take over control from boeing and fly it
from a little room in there to wherever
they wanted
and they may be
steerable actuators which actually
move the controls
instead of the normal 80 pounds where a
pilot could take over in case there was
a problem they set it to 150 pounds
which the pilot can't control them and
the reasoning behind that is they didn't
want the hijacker to be able to say okay
take me here and the pilot just said no
i can't let no control and then you know
they fly to the base and capture the
hijack
but the problem is uh
the zionists find out how to hack into
the program and all they do is give it a
full down nose command for a plane that
has somebody they don't like
now you may wonder why they would kill
everybody kill 160 passengers just for
one person they don't like
well that was so that people wouldn't
figure out that they would kill
everybody for just one person they
didn't like so that happened on lion air
and that happened on
ethiopian airlines
did it happen on 911
did they use that for 911. the hologram
those weren't airplanes
and people could say oh yes i thought on
tv
i have to tell you you know 2.67 there's
three million parts in each of those
airplanes so that's six million parts
and each of those parts uh when it goes
into a u.s certified airplane of a
certificate under airplane under park
part 25
it has to be made in a certificated
manufacturer the faa goes in sees their
quality control
and
they're allowed to make that part and on
that part they have to have a stamped
number
so there's three million parts for each
airplane six million parts with a
stamped number
now when the airplane crashes those
stamp number parts are all over the
place
but in the case of 911 they didn't find
one
single
part
of the airplane
and
none with the stamped identification so
that was a hologram
and
buildings one two and seven were all
destroyed by a
uh by a direct energy weapon
uh of which we are we
of which
the secret government the u.s naval
command based out of kwajalein island
they have 13 of them at least
john walson
my good friend john walson has taken
fantastic pictures of these things
orbiting
i have a bunch of pictures in my hallway
and in addition to that
they built they have some steel
boundaries up there and i say steel
they make d dot d and d dot d is the
home material they use for
submarines aircraft carriers battleships
and you know it's much much lighter than
steel and titanium much much stronger
than steel and titanium
and not only that this all material with
a small electrical charge
they can keep the ocean
between five and seven and seven
centimeters away from the hall
so that
we know that normally a whole
type of uh
a boat
the limiting speed is 1.34 times the
square root of the water line which
means that most hull based
uh craft can only go 45 to 50 miles an
hour 50 miles an hour at maximum but if
there's no drag if there's no
water alongside a mall it can go up to
125 knots and you can imagine an
aircraft carrier that they launched
a few months ago the gerald gerald ford
aircraft carrier it's a mammoth if you
can imagine that doing 125 knots i mean
it's fantastic
and they say well you know wouldn't the
crew be able to notice it no they're all
they're all
uh
uh commanded to stay below
they cannot be up there uh on deck when
it's going that speed apart the fact
they'd get washed off or blown off no
wouldn't they get blown off the deck at
that speed
but they don't want them up there to
know how fast it goes and then
the crew member uh
says hey how come we got to some place
two days
faster than we normally do
they're not allowed to ask those
questions and if you're in the navy you
know better than to ask those questions
so uh they've kept it secret and uh
those things that have some fantastic
feed anyway
that material is made in orbiting
boundaries
and uh
it's brought down it's called d.d
and it's brought down
by airplanes that are 10 times bigger
than a
747 and
i think you were the one that was one of
the first to ever
notice it see it yeah i mean that was
landed at macrohanish which is going to
be a spaceport
yeah
and i have the picture you drew on the
wall there so
uh that's the craft they bring it down
and i sent you pictures of macka hammock
and there's certainly enough room there
for
a secret runway
there are people locals who've seen the
tr-3b fly in there all sorts of stuff
going in and out of there at ground
level but how they land it and where
they landed on i mean that seems to be
something different
exactly
but tompkins what about bill tompkins
he's saying that uh those those
foundries must be must be being made in
huge
craft
is that story true
he's not saying anything bill constance
is dead
in the past when he was speaking
god
got to be careful with your shrewd wit
and genius
and modest modest genius
where'd you put my pipe
uh i think you put it uh somewhere
flammable so it would soon go up in
flames
okay so what do you want to know about
bill well bill comp tompkins
i agree with what you've said that bill
bill was bumped off he was allowed to um
basically tell a story support nasa's
landing on the moon thing
aliens on the moon therefore there must
be things on the moon but it's a mixture
of stories isn't it
it's a word it's a mixture of stories
yeah that's a mixture of stories so
let's let's get the stories right on
this one now
here's the story
we didn't go to the moon period
no possible way i'll give you 25
good iron-clad reasons why we didn't go
but
let's start with one and let's work
through them
okay the first one but first of all i
have to tell you about randy walsh's new
book
and just a second
let me put my pipe here because
i don't think and we also want we also
want to talk about dulce because you
found this mysterious file on your
computer
you got the book that's fantastic
now it's full and that's available in
the current nexus folks if you want to
go to nexus magazine there's a review of
that
he takes apart every single
excuse that now supposed that they went
and
the most interesting one is the saturn v
they never fluid saturn vibe what they
used uh for the public to see was a
saturn one
and uh the way we could prove it
is that uh
it was i think 15 seconds behind at 26
000 feet
and 73 seconds behind at 80 000 feet and
the reason they know that
is a guy got a film
from beginning
until it
watched you can see it in the sky now
we're talking we're talking about the
apollo 11 launch
and a cloud layer that the saturn v
was seen to go through
right went through late
it went through late yeah so
uh
what about the 300 foot thing
i mean the saturn 5's 300 foot
uh
whereas the center one b is half that
it's size
it's half the size it's not as long
oh oh they made it bigger yeah they they
camouflaged it
so are you saying the big nozzles were
just
just saturn 1b engines with a big nozzle
i don't know whether it was saturn 1b
engines um
randy discusses that in detail and uh
i mean a lot of this is down to
cavitation of those big engines they
didn't work the apollo 4
apollo 6 if they'd had a crew on board
either of those they would have been
shaken to death that sort of thing is
that what we're talking about
they had that
bump start or whatever it was the thing
that pogo
pokestar yeah
and uh
so then
he talks about
uh the
ben allen bell
and how there's actually three then alan
belt
and uh how
dangerous it would be to go through the
van allen valley spent the whole
chapter on the van allen belt and has
some really neat drawings and
but didn't the uh didn't nasa launch
the new version which they launched i
think 18 months ago and they had all the
data from the apollo
knowing what the all the radiation was
because they obviously went through and
they had all that radiation data out in
space and were therefore able to use
that data for the future missions which
are going to go back there in 2021
but obviously obviously nasa went to the
moon and they can rely on all the apollo
figures
which is why they didn't have to launch
that
test vehicle in the first place to find
out what the radiation actually is
nobody's going anywhere we're not going
in 2021
uh there's too much radiation out there
and
we don't have a way to solve it e.t does
and we can go with e.t
but only with them we can't do it
ourselves yeah but i'm sorry but there's
a guy who owns a warehouse and he sells
lots of arms and zones
and he's very rich
he's half as rich as he was and he just
said he's got a big space rocket and
he's going to launch this thing and he's
going to land on the moon and he's going
to charge people for it
who says that the head of some guy
called amazon amma amazon zone
you're not talking about jeff
yeah
he just annoys this big rocket and how
wonderful it is
jeff bezos is not a [ __ ]
jeff pio bezos is just galactically
uninformed
he doesn't know and there's nobody to
tell him that uh there's radiation out
there and he ain't going anywhere now
you know the funny thing about jeff
bezos
he says he's gonna populate the solar
system
um
he's gonna take some earth bozos out
there
and spread them around the solar system
what bezos doesn't know is there's 39
planets other than earth in our solar
system
and they have trillions and trillions
and trillions of et's and humans and
everything out there and they don't need
jeff bezos to bring a couple of earth
bozos out there
and mess things up
we're down here on earth to learn one
thing and that's to live our lives with
integrity yeah okay you've got your
t-shirt on here john not greed yeah
uh and to express our love for our
families each day so
um
jeff needs to get informed somehow
because he's going to be losing a lot of
money
well what about um elon musk i mean he
he's a pretty smart kid surely he knows
no none of those guys know anything they
believe in nasa
and nasa's not going to tell them
anything for instance
uh we pulled a good one on
israel the other day they were going to
go to the moon and put a lander on the
moon but
nasa forgot to tell them the gravity
there is 69.71
of earth
and israel go to lander
on the basis it was one sticks to
gravity of earth and it crashed they ran
out of gas because they're trying to
they're trying to land it you know with
the gravity almost two-thirds of that of
earth
and they they ran out of gas because
they were just using too much fuel
trying to stay in the air
so they went flat
and uh
well a friend of mine called ken
johnston who was a astronaut for the
grumman spacecraft and he trained the
apollo astronauts on how to land the
lamb
he has photographs i think he's going to
show these in manchester in celebration
of the 50th anniversary of apollo
and
he says there's an atmosphere in the
moon too
ken johnston astronaut in first
i think he was a test tester yeah he was
a test astronaut for grumman
and he's got the same name as me so he
must be telling the truth
so what does he say about uh well he
says he did land on the moon and apollo
did that 50 years ago and everything's
fine
do you mind if i answer my phone
uh yes i do mind actually but you'll do
it anyway
okay john right
the saturn v dressed up as a sound and
one b i don't get it
yeah
yeah dressed up as it had to look right
and uh
they did a good job
and uh
but uh it was a good thing now have you
seen that wikileaks movie going around
you're talking about the apollo 11
yeah
the stuff shot out at area 51 did you
see that one no
oh come on
on my facebook page uh my god i'll have
to go there no i have missed that is
that being so busy i haven't when did
you put it up
uh a couple days ago
somebody had a camera out on area 51 and
and showed
uh how they filmed
the land that how they filmed walking
on the moon and it's absolutely
hilarious miles because
all the things that we know that that
they did you know they do in real time
they say ready
action and then they start blocking that
area you think you want a movie camera
yeah but that's that's obviously before
it was all closed off
it went i mean it was only it was only
closed off in the 80s wasn't it
what are you thinking you won yeah
95
but you were able to drive there and say
hi and drive out once
you mentioned
i went out uh
four times well i went out more than
that i was caught four times and the
fourth time they said look
this is the last time
don't come back and i haven't been back
because you're a good boy
the only and then the next time was with
ball bazaar but we know all that okay uh
you mentioned about bill tompkinson
he was a decent man
who was told by the navy he can tell us
everything
and then
they bumped him off
they wanted to be believable and the
only way they could make it believable
was to bump him up so that everyone say
see he was telling the truth they bumped
him up
so but that's very it's that's a so what
else are we talking about here i mean
are the
foundries
that you're talking about up in space
are they the things which were like made
way back in the 40s and the 50s and andy
geed up these big submarine
um pressure vessels that were made in
the united states and then somehow
anti-gravity
and welded up in on the lunar surface i
mean for what how much is this storage
real or bunker whatever is it all bunk
how do they get that heavy those heavy
platforms that john walson's talking
about and you're talking about up into
space
well
how did they get the part they make them
up there
they don't make them down here yeah but
how do i mean we've got the space
shuttle which doesn't fly anymore the
united states has got no manned lifting
uh ability at all we're told the only
people going to do that is elon musk
boeing and
mr amazon
so what where's where's all this stuff
coming from
i see where you're at
okay when
the
you know the
u.s naval space command
started in the late 60s and it was
financed through
the fake
gemini mercury and apollo programs
they ripped about 40 billion dollars off
and that gave them the money to
start the naval space command and
that was based at kwajalein island in
the south pacific
and you could go to your map
and go down to
the marshall islands and then see kwajal
and that's where they based and today
they launch
three or four rockets
every month
they have between a thousand and fifteen
hundred astronauts current and qualified
most of them are in orbit at all times
and it's a huge operation so
when president trump a few months ago
said he was starting a space command
everybody wondered
what do you mean starting a space
command we already got one
and we're wondering if he's trying to
dovetail
his space command into the real space
command
and we don't know whether he knows
about the
real
what the naval space command
or whether
you know he's been told well let's you
know start one
and then we'll see what we can do if we
can get one going but this u.s table
space command
and all that information is on
the
livingdoon.livingmoon.com ron schmidt
has been working on this for at least 15
years and he's done a miraculous job
and
the way we started to find it out
is you'll remember that when the space
shuttle used to take off
it took two and a half days to
get to the moon
and around
two and a half days to get to war but to
the space station
go to the space station um
and so
richard hoagland explained it was doing
a milk round it was dropping off
supplies to other places
and we wondered because it only took the
russians 37 minutes to get up and 40
minutes to get back with a boston
so we were trying to figure out what the
story was and then we noticed ron got a
hold of a a um
a uh
road manifest
and and notice there's tons of food
and for the four people that were up
there way more than that
and then we noticed that
every time the shuttle launched the bar
stock would launch one day before
so what happened is then we noticed that
not only did it take two and a half days
to get up there when they got up there
and opened
they
that huge hedge there it was almost
empty i mean it was like half full
so we finally figured out what they're
doing as they're dropping off parts on
the way up
and
what the boss talk would do is it would
take up a whole load of parts and food
and then they'd load up the space
shuttle
and then when they'd start back down and
the reason it took two and a half days
back down is they'd start the whole
different uh orbiting places to
uh you know the dews the uh boundaries
and all that and they drop off this food
and all the parts they need on their way
back
so uh ron's the one that figured that
out
and uh you know we tried to get
jim oberg to comment on why it took two
and a half days to come back
and that bozo says well
you know they worked 10 days on the iss
and they were all exhausted so
we gave them two and a half days cruise
last for two days cruise rest uh on the
way back we're not slave drivers
that's exactly what goldberg said
you know the trouble with
trouble with jim roberge he was so smart
and he had so much data
he thought he could argue anything
and uh
you know anything except the truth
and so you know him and
jay bag you know jay utah who runs
space.com
and uh
there's a couple others those guys have
been professional liars for nasa all
these years and now we find out
that you know
uh half a billion people live on the
moon
uh humans just like us but far more
advanced
uh both sociologically and
technologically
and the there's an atmosphere on the
moon just like i said 20 years ago
and the gravity is 69
okay so
so right the
the thing we're trying to get at is how
much of these huge craft that have been
seen by john wallston and you're talking
about where the hell did all these
things get built
and how did they get up there
we're pretty sure
uh that they were built at the white
sand missile test range we think there's
a couple of cobras well we know there's
a couple of covert runways there uh you
know they have the space shuttle runway
there but uh there's other
strips that are you know we have that
way to hide
runways with holograms it's just it
works perfect i mean it just you can't
see anything
now
uh that's that's what they use at
macrohanish and that's what they use at
red rock canyon just outside las vegas
because
a colleague of mine had video of these
things flying at huge speeds just going
straight into the cliff
absolutely
and uh
you know john
andrews who was vice president of
testers and jim goodall
um
who
was in the service minneapolis air guard
for many years and he's the one that got
one of the blackbirds
uh to the guard there restored it after
13 years done 13 years
putting god knows how much money into it
and made it absolutely perfect
and the air force came and stole it back
and uses it for a gate guard at the cia
and langley now
i mean just came and got it
they didn't ask for it they just they
just stole it
so that's the third third time the
public has paid for it they paid for it
when that was a blackbird when it was
originally built
and then
when it was uh
and then when it was stored
and then when they stole it and took it
to mclean built it there so that's three
times the
the public has paid for that
and the air force gets away with this i
mean i'm you know i don't know how but
you know most of the if you look in the
records
most of the uh commanders the chiefs
of the uh
of the museum the air force museum at
wright-patterson
uh are somehow involved in accounting
and uh you know the airport's accounting
uh i'm not sure whether you've heard of
the nation
uh magazine in december
uh
had figured out that the
armed forces
in the last
20 years
had relieved the public of 22
trillion dollars now that's tea with a
tree that's not billions that's t with a
trillion with a t
22 trillion dollars from the public
and that's uh
what they call uh
a
special kind of accounting
uh
creativity
so
they end up as these cushy jobs of the
head of the museum
and their job is to
let different uh organizations museums
have special airplanes
and uh
like the um
that b17 uh i'm trying to remember what
the name of it was
uh
other airplanes and they give it to
these organizations
and the organization work their hearts
out and money and get them all
absolutely beautifully restored and then
the airport comes in and steals it
they say well but we forgot to tell you
that's ours
i think it's
but what about
tompkins i mean i'm getting back to this
where are these structures built
okay i mean
the british are talking about the base
on the moon and making creatures for
them and things
okay who said there's a base on the moon
uh my sources in england
said they were making these creatures
and that's where i in vitro
fertilization was was created for
so they would make these things
which look like grays and they'd end up
working on the lunar base unquote
so we've got a lunar base up there and
ken johnston
ken johnson gave me a powerpoint
presentation
with a whole lot of pictures in it all
black and white about the apollo air and
all the rest of it but he showed a
picture which had a dewy top a jew
shaped like
shape and it was something like a
weather balloon they were actually
launching from the surface so he was
saying or going to say before the
interview was pulled and i couldn't use
any of his photographs
that they have an atmosphere in the moon
and they were launching a weather
balloon
okay
i don't know not that
all i know and all i've said was
the apollo missions didn't go now
if there's if they found a way since
then
it had to be with the help of bt because
we did not
have the ability
to
guard astronauts against the radiation
it just can't be done it has to be
uh with etl
so if we have a base on the moon and i
don't think we do
um
that one uh factor had to be solved the
van l and protection from the van
but all i'm saying is the apollo mission
didn't go now you know maybe there's
other missions where did they launch him
from well i remember i remember
at the ufo mega con
kerry cassidy asked you a question i
think he she mentioned the name bill you
house now i know you disagreed with bill
you house on
his principle where they tested the
saucers
and they were sort of like stuck on a
pole with a ball bearing so the thing
could fly
but it wouldn't take off if you soon i
mean they could test the aviation
but he explained to me privately that
they landed on the moon with an
anti-gravity
vehicle not the lunar module
yeah i never believed bill you as he's
been here several times i spent a lot of
time talking to him
uh and i never believed a word he said
and the reason i didn't
is because he was the one that was
telling me
that in
1954 55
that they were making stimulators for
flying saucers
and they would
put the astronauts in this simulator
and
make them try and
guide it when this thing was you know
going this way and that way and so on
it's ridiculous
uh
sausages have their own gravity you're
always standing right up and you're
always the gravity is right there you
don't need any stimulator like that it's
ridiculous
so you don't need to learn how to buy
appliances
that was you know bill house's big thing
and they used to you know i think
there's videos of him with his
brother or somebody
laughing about you know and trying to
make oh yeah remember when old so-and-so
was trying to do that
and you know making a big deal out of it
but uh
i don't think it happened
okay um
you've found some photographs on your
computer
uh yeah dolce
uh has been around for a long time
you've sent those photographs and what's
the significance of them this is making
aliens in the dolce bass
making alien
well making aliens whatever these things
were and those photographs
well there's aliens it's an alien base
we work with them
uh they've allowed us to come in and
work with them
and
they make all kinds of strange stuff
uh you know you have different different
types of aliens that work there there's
aliens that look like us but they're a
little bit taller there's
aliens that you know look like the
praying mantis uh there's grays there's
all kinds of aliens that walk up and
down the hallways there uh and do what
they do best
and level seven as you know is nightmare
hall and that's where they attempt to
cross
humans with
animals
and uh
you know they've got all kinds of things
going on there uh the basics is it's
been there for a long time
uh it's still
it's still going
um you have several confirmations there
uh when bob lazar worked at
uh s4 he heard him mention it several
times the word dalty and they're going
or they're coming or we've been there or
something like that
now talk about the dulce war there was
no dulce ward now phil schneider
uh a nice guy as he was he was never at
dulce and he was never in any dulce war
if he was killed and i don't know for a
fact that he was
uh i don't know who did it now i have a
letter from one of his friends that he
absolutely committed suicide so
maybe he committed suicide and he tied
himself up and whatever i don't know
what the story is except i do know that
bill schneider did not work at dalty he
never was a dolce and he wasn't an adult
now
the way the story of the war got going
was that when i first met um
cherry hinkle
she was working with a guard there
that had escaped
and he he disagreed with what was going
on there the fantastic uh unbelievable
experiments with animals and humans and
all that and he escaped out of there
uh with seven minutes of videotape of a
hallway
25 black and white photos
and 100 pages of technical information
uh
he went and his name was uh do you
remember his name right up i had it
right down here the other day
whoever valve valerian no
no no no no but the guy that cherry
angled with the guy well we've got we've
got some of the photographs we've got
some of the documents here uh i could
have a look at that but i'll leave that
for the edit
name of the guard that's okay i'll
remember in a second but anyway he got
in contact with his friend sherry hinkle
who lived in henderson
and uh she wrote to tom adams
and
in 1987
i met with tom and linda howell and
chris slambright and a bunch of them up
at creston colorado and we had kind of a
meeting of the ufo
uh enthusiasts to trade information and
tom
handed me the letter from cherry engel
uh that said told all about dalty but
not the name
and uh wanted to talk to him about it
and tom said
uh john i don't have time to do this
would you do it for me i said sure so
when i got back to vegas i contacted
jerry
and
you know spent
two or three years with her
learning about all this stuff and one of
the things that she told me
was the fact that uh he had made
four or five separate containers boxes
of suitcases whatever they were
waterproof and dustproof and everything
and in each of one of these was
copies of the seven minute videotape the
25 black and white photos and 100 pages
of technical information
and he would get he gave one of those
five containers to each of his friends
and said
uh please keep this
if you don't hear from me
uh on two contacts and you would make a
contact every four months if you missed
eight months in a row that meant that
they had come they had captured him uh
and uh they were
they were allowed to do whatever they
want with the contents they could show
it to the public or hide or whatever now
cherry got one of those
containers
and she hid it
uh
in dolan springs now dolan springs
is halfway material here in kingdom
and
cherry and i drove down to dolan springs
turned left off the highway
and she
pointed up in the mountains exactly
where she had buried that container
and
i kept that to myself for you know many
years and i was a few years ago when
or i think 1996 when he missed eight
months in a row
and they met made an attempt to find the
box and i think they made three or four
attempts and i think bill hamilton was
on at least one of the attempts maybe
more but they never did find the box
but anyway when after the first couple
of weeks that i met cherry
she had made a pencil
drawing
of
five pencil drawings of those black and
white photos and those were the uh
the uh the photos that you have copies
of
and
she asked me if i would distribute them
to my friends and i said yes but they're
in uh
faint pencils so i'm going to have to
make um
felt-tip drawings of them so
i spent a week or two making very
terrible copies
in the felt tip pen of these drawings i
think
and there's four or five of them
and i took those
drawings made copies
and uh one page of technical information
and i think that's all and i sent it to
my friends and told them what the story
was and those became known as the galty
papers
and uh i never signed any of the
drawings
the only way i can prove that that
packet was mine
was the
typeface the typewriter that typed
the
technical information
was off of an ibm executive
uh proportional
uh typewriter the first of which came
out in 1965 and i bought one of the
first ones and i still have it
and
because of the
the typeface and the way that it puts
type on that paper proves that it had to
be mine because i'm the only one left
with one of those type typewriters
so that's how i proved it was i
unfortunately i never signed any of the
drawing but
i have her original
pencil drawings
and my original
belted drawings but anyway that's the
way the story that's the way that the
dolce papers
got into the public as i sent them
and that was published in
matrix one by valve valerian is that
right
matrix one
came off
every page came off this desk right here
you see this desk
every single piece of paper
that's in matrix one
came off this desk right here
now
i understand that
linda mentioned that she was a bit
annoyed about that
sort of like i think she was annoyed on
the base that it was a breach
they didn't want that information out
and and you were a bad boy doing it no
who didn't want that information out uh
well
i think linda linda howe
what'd you say well about this meeting
that you'd have these meetings and then
you weren't invited back again that's
not right
and i wasn't supposed to talk about the
meeting yeah i i i understand i could be
wrong i could be wrong well nobody told
me that
i had a wonderful time with linda she
said
she wanted to go down
i said what are you doing after
preston she said i'm going down to
albuquerque
to meet with
colonel ernie edwards
and bob collins
and i said okay well i'll drive you
there if you want she said fine so
when the conference was ended give me
just a minute i'm gonna what i'm saying
is that this stuff is going on in
england and very similar descriptions of
what would you talk about dulce are
going on in the labs here in wiltshire
absolutely
no doubt about it so anyway
linda hal and i
start driving down to
albuquerque
and we get by
alamosa
and just before we get to espanola
this is in 1988
three
f-117as are flying there's two on this
side and one on this side
and of course i was familiar with it but
they had just released that to the
public
and here they are
shadowing me and linda driving down this
road to albuquerque i mean it was so
uh improbable because i knew that they
were based at donapon
and what they would be doing on this
road
following me and linda was i mean just
incredible i think they were just
tourists
they're just
just having a day out from the office
right they couldn't possibly be any
connection
so lyndon and i get to albuquerque and
we have dinner with colonel ernie
edwards now colonel ernie edwards was
the guy that the air force assigned
to uh paul bennowitz to
keep track of him and uh you know help
him or not help him or whatever
and uh we had dinner with him and he had
some very nice things to say about paul
no bad mouthing at all no he's not
uh he thought he was on the up and up
the only thing that we could not
understand is paul had
some black and white photos
of the uh archletta mesa where the uh
the secret um
nuclear craft crashed
uh the one that um
uh you've heard of the cash philanthrom
case yeah
i mean okay that craft we're pretty sure
it was that crap crashed on the arch
letta mesa and paul benowitz went up
there several times
to
find parts and the only part that he
found in all of his expeditions
was one
u.s government ballpoint pen and that
was it there was nothing else
but anyway that that crap crashed there
and paul had aerial photos he had a
little airplane used to fly around take
photos but he had photos of
the archaeologist
and when he'd show it like when he
showed them to me
and said look that that's one of those
spacecraft there and i couldn't see
anything
and i'd say now exactly where it is
right there
i couldn't see anything so when i had
dinner with bernie edwards
i said did he show you those photos he
said yeah i said did you see anything he
said no i said is it an
paul sees something there and we don't
and he says i can't explain that
and at that time
uh
just prior
uh to the time we had dinner there
there had been a blackout uh in
albuquerque of the
faa radar and i think it last
lasted three or four hours and it was a
new
excuse a big news story
and i asked uh ernie i said
what do you think it was he says i think
they were bringing a black craft through
here and they didn't want him to see it
i said now look colonel you're a
criminal in the air force how could you
be telling me something that there's a
black aircraft uh flying through
albuquerque and that's why they disabled
the radar he said well that's my
personal belief
so
and what was it sr-71 or what
no no it was flying through
it was flying through the albuquerque
terminal control area
an sr-71 flies at 80 000 feet at mach
3.2 oh
so they're not going to have that on
radar or shut the radar down so they go
through it now
albuquerque is a very
famous place
particularly in my life because
when i crashed that bucer
a young man over in geneva switzerland
on june 24
1961
uh
i caused a lot of damage to myself i
uh crushed both feet both ankles broke
both legs in three places
um
i lost all my teeth i
knocked out
i broke both sides of my jaw
i uh
crushed my neck and that's why i have
this tracheotomy scar here
and that's a european cut the u.s when
they do a tracheotomy it's different
than this one
and
other than that i was okay but i was in
a coma for about 36 hours
and
that was uh when i was going from the
they pulled me out of the airplane
and i don't remember that
but on the way to geneva
uh i crashed at the uh
the school of a boarding school that i
had gone to is called the rose
supposedly the school of kings
and i wasn't going there at that time i
had already gotten out
and the reason i was over there doing
aerobatics is i had gone up to flown up
to burn for something uh and come back
and on the way back i happened to be
right over the school i said well i'll
do an aerobatic show for them and the
last part of the aerographic shell was a
spin
to make him think i was crashing but
i started i misjudged my altitude by 200
feet i was reading altimeter in meters
and all caught up with you know i was
17 years old and
full of pissing vinegar and
and
ready to do a show and
i start this spin
and
at the second turn
i saw a barn go by and i'm thinking god
damn my blow
about that time i hit and you know your
mind speeds up so fast when you're in
action like that
i honestly thought that i had just
knocked the gear out
and i was going to go back to geneva
and land on the grass strip i'm just
under the belly
but
they put me in an ambulance and
it was about a 45 minute
ambulance ride to geneva
where the nearest hospital was
and i remember
being in that ambulance and floating
above my body
and looking at myself and saying
i'm hurt too badly there's no way i'm
going to survive this
ambulance ride i'm just hurt too bad and
then you know i don't remember anything
after that
anyway i finally get jarred from the
hospital and it was a
it was very painful
uh if they gave me any pain pills i
don't remember because
i was in pain constantly
and they let me out about six weeks
later i went home we had a nice house
there in a little town they called one
and uh my dad built a a california style
ranch house and i had a room to myself
and
i was recovering and all i can remember
is pain 24 hours a day
no pain pills
and uh
one of his engineers
uh
came through to visit uh was working on
my uh
the uh
precursor of the learjet
and uh he had been a marine on
uh one of the islands like maturo or one
of those islands
and he knew a little bit about medicine
and he when he
came in my room
and got the odor he went to my dad and
said
john's got gangrene if you don't get him
to an american hospital
in the next few days
he's going to lose that leg if not his
life so
they put me on a twa constellation
flew to new york changed plains flew to
denver
in a denver
i was met with uh by dr randy lovelace
now dr randy lovelace uh in 1947 was a
surgeon
he was from albuquerque
his father had
built and formed the levels clinic in
1902
and
right after the roswell accident they
sent randy back
uh
to albuquerque to expand
the lovelace clinic
uh to where they had uh
where they'd be able to do uh autopsies
of the aliens in complete secrecy now at
that time 1947 1948 is when they started
building the monsanto weapons storage
area that was right there on kirkland
air force base and right near the
levelis clinic and they were all
connected uh they had all these
underground passageways when i went
there in 1961 i didn't know any of that
i didn't know anything about aliens you
know i didn't know anything about
performing saucers and it's too bad i
didn't because it would have been
interesting
anyway dr randy lovelace
was the head
of that operation and he's the one that
did all the tests for the mercury and
gemini astronauts he was a very famous
guy
and uh in 1967
uh he took his wife
up skiing at aspen
and all incidentally i forgot to tell
you when he when he picked me up in
denver uh he had a twin beach and he had
a pilot
who was
dumber than a box of rocks i mean this
guy was really stupid and it was at
night and randy said you want to fly in
the co-pilot seat i said yeah sure so i
went up co-pilot seat with this guy who
was flying this twin beach and
we taxi out from denver
and we get ready for takeoff and he's
lined up on a taxiway and he calls for
takeoff and the tower says do you know
where you're lined up on the taxiway oh
okay i'll move
anyway we get down to albuquerque and i
go through you know a couple three weeks
of uh they cured me instantly of
gangrene
and uh i left there went to l.a
uh and that's another story but anyway
randy in 1967 had gone skiing in aspen
with his wife
and
when they were done skiing at the end of
the weekend he had to get back to
albuquerque
and there was a storm
coming through
and he
told his pilot he had to get back
uh could he fly him back and of course
the pilot being dumber a box rock said
yeah and he tried to sneak through
independence pass
and crashed
and what's interesting is
the next day when the rescue team got
there and i mean
independence pass it took a real hike to
get up there and the weather was so bad
you know it could take a helicopter they
got up to the airplane and there was
evidence that three people had searched
it completely walked around the airplane
gone through all you know randy was was
dead so was his wife so it was a pilot
but insert the airplane searched his
briefcase taking all his papers uh there
was no indication of how they got there
uh but they did take all his stuff so
he was so involved in the uh
ufo thing and the e-teeping and the
alien autopsies that uh they had to be
sure
that nothing leaked out to the public so
i don't to the day i don't know how they
got there but that is a mystery but the
uh lovelace clinic has always been
involved in uh in secret stuff and it's
connected
with the manzano weapon storage area
kirtlands air force base and of course
los alamos
so
well john
what about the so-called alien autopsy
the so-called alien autopsy i also want
you to talk about stanton friedman the
late stanton friedman if you want to
that son of a [ __ ] you know
they asked me
john he's dead you may be saying nice
kind things when people die like that he
died he died at an airport for christ's
sake he died a couple of days jesus it
couldn't happen soon enough stanford but
you know
uh they asked me
[Laughter]
they asked me
several people have asked me if i do a
you know i say a few kind words about
him i said not only no but elmo i mean
he spent the last 30 years bad-mouthing
bob lazar
never took the time to call bob never
took the time to write him never time to
everyone every time but uh free was in
las vegas do you think he tried to meet
bob no he didn't it was his job and in
case nobody knows stan friedman was a
paid government agent his job was
shocked
what do you mean
that never happens in this business john
what are you talking about are you on
you're too much well
anyway
his job was to discredit bibles are and
and a lot more i don't have any kind
things to say about stan
freeman and that's all there is to say
about that okay you mentioned the alien
autopsy
the famous the infamous fake film
of the alien autopsy how much of it was
modeled on real film
or or what
was it and was it done at the la
where was it
i didn't see one part of that film that
looked real or was real
i mean i've spoken to the guy who faked
it he went to great lengths to put
certain traps in that so people would
say oh that couldn't be right and then
he found that well actually that thing
was right like the curly telephone thing
that sort of thing so then people would
would find ah it was ah that wasn't
right and then they find it was right
therefore it was therefore it was real
he thought it out pretty well spyros
you're something else miles i love
talking to you but but i mean were there
actual aliens done
and not
in the lovelace place
is that i mean
tell me more
absolutely i mean there was underground
parts
of the
lovelace clinic that connected to the
monsanto with the storage area and when
we say manzano weapon storage area you
think oh they want to store an animal
there well there was a lot more than
that there was ufo parts there was uh
hospital facilities where they could do
the autopsies all that stuff there
and
there was very few entities i think
maybe two or three one from the leblanc
clinic one from a parking area and
another maybe from
kirtland but each one
had a door
that you went in and there's a little
cubicle and i don't know how to compare
it as a
little room maybe six by six
and
uh you'd go in this uh open this door
and go in
and the door would close and there was
no door handle so he couldn't get out
and then there was a little uh
uh little uh key code thing there like
this was in the 50s and they did have
keycode then
we didn't get them until the 60s but
you would punch in
like four numbers
and
the next door would open if you got
those four numbers right
now if you didn't get the four numbers
right and the red lead
red light came on
you got one more chance
and if you got it wrong then
that little cubicle would fill with
deadly gas and you'd be dead in 15
seconds
and i actually met a guy who told me
exactly what that
gas was and i don't remember what it was
but that's how the security of that
thing worked you didn't get a second
chance you didn't say oh wait wait
so uh so if you were uh
so
how many aliens any information on how
many are you talking one two three five
or the greys reptilians mantids
tall whites what about the tall whites
john
okay the tall knights is a different
story that's what's his name
uh what's the guy's name that wrote that
uh oh god
uh charles hall
i think so i love that book i loved all
three of his books the only argument i
have with him
is uh when he said that he
vectored
the 707
i think it vectored a f-105 and a 707 or
something
to land there at uh
what do they call that place uh
i'm losing my mind
the base no no the basis along highway
95 up to reno the uh
i'll think of in a second anyway that uh
that's the base that he worked at
and uh he tells the story
about the weather being bad and he was
the only one that could work the radar
and he vectored these airplanes in and
it's so
erroneous i mean the whole story is so
full of [ __ ]
it's almost hard to believe the rest of
the story is dead but but i do believe
it i just believe he got carried away
vectoring these planes in uh you know
and he's talking about and then i had
told him to bring it down ten more feet
and then another five feet i mean
total [ __ ] uh but that's the only
thing that i found wrong
why do you think that the toll white
story is right and what about the tall
whites who were all wiped out at uh
paradise
in the california fires
okay let me talk about the tall whites
versus at this place and that's january
crete air force base that's what they
call it now uh and then at the the
original name was indian springs air
force base and that's where hall was
stationed now why do i believe it's all
white story well number one
the way that he tells it and the
descriptions
of where they were based match
he said he was at the north end of
dogbone lake
and they walked
several miles up that canyon towards
uh towards the northwest which leads
right into groom lake uh and that
matches
and then
you'll remember the story of
bill hamilton calling me
uh
a few years ago i'm thinking what five
no more than 10 years ago
he was on his way up to
take a look at groom lake he used to go
up there every couple of months see what
was going on see if there's anything
there
and uh he said he was going to go to the
uh black mailbox which was black in
those days
and then he's going to stay overnight at
rachel
so he calls me and this was a sunday so
he goes up there sunday night
and uh then uh stays at rachel on sunday
night then
uh
monday night
uh
he spends out there and then
tuesday he calls me
and he said you're going to be there and
i said yeah i said okay i'm going to
come by there's something weird happen
but i don't know exactly what
i said oh yeah be interesting so
he and his wife drive here and that
would be you know tuesday night
and uh
in those days i had a couch there in
front of the fireplace and
i said you want me to do a regression
and he said yeah that'd be interesting
well what's interesting is bill and i
uh
you know regressed other people you know
we were i was trained in regressive
hypnosis and uh we had never thought
about regressing each other but you know
he said something strange happened i
said well let me take a try out stab at
it and uh
you know i didn't set up a recorder
because i didn't think i was going to
get anything but his wife took notes
about what happened so
uh i
did the regression and uh got him in and
and he tells this story
that he and his wife were sitting in the
truck they're facing towards
the uh the south east where the tall
grays are
and they're right by the black mailbox
and he sees two
like car lights that are like the
headlights on a car coming towards him
and uh
they come faster and faster and faster
until uh well wait before i tell you
that story
uh i said okay what's strange happened
there he says well we were
we were at the black mailbox
and we saw these car headlights coming
towards us and when they went over us
he said i turn around
and they're not there but there's a
18-wheeler going up that little hill
there and i can see the lights on the on
the back of the truck
and uh
and
i said you didn't
remember anything like that no that's
that's what i remember
so uh i'd take them
noses and into
take them without you know now you see
the headlights now what happens he says
it's a saucer
and it parks 50 feet directly over the
truck
and
he said
i am standing on the side i had the door
open in the truck and i got you know
kind of one foot on the floorboard one
foot outside just hanging there and
it pulls me up something pulled me up
inside the saucer
and
of course not not a person of course and
he said and i'm laying down on this real
comfortable lounge couch
and there's a tall white there
and the introduces himself as quilar
and uh he said i'm cuellar what did you
want
and
said
um what did i want he said yeah you
called us we didn't call you
and uh
he said we heard you you know
saying you know you wish somebody would
come out there and so here we are what
can i do for you
so bill doesn't know what to uh
what to say and uh the qualiar starts
telling them you know about you know
where they're from and
and uh what they're doing here and they
use this as a
stop every once in a while
and uh
they have a base
there between dog bone lake and uh
and and groom life and uh there's
several families there and
not a lot so anyway they talked for
about half an hour and then cuellar says
uh
i have to leave now so you're gonna have
to
get down in your uh
get down in your truck
and so bill gets up and he walks over
the door i mean he's looking out and
it's 50 feet down there you know and uh
he's going to get creamed if he steps
off there and quayler says
relax just just step up you'll be okay
so
steps in steps up and it just floats
right down to the truck
and
he ends up right where he remembers
being you know with one foot in the
truck and one foot on the ground just
hanging there
and uh turns around and then that
18-wheeler
uh goes up there that was a false memory
and uh so then i did this regression his
wife took the notes and everything it
was pretty interesting but
when you say what's your evidence for
the tall lights that that would be my
evidence that cuellar one of the tall
whites had picked up bill
and uh
well
i've heard that there was good reason
why the tall whites who were living at
pas at paradise
were taken out do you have any idea why
they would be taken out
absolutely not they're
you know the way that all entails it
they were a peaceful group they were
scared of humans
uh
i don't know
i doubt whether they were taken out
because i'm sure they have
a protective forces but but i don't know
and
you're the only people
you're the only one that told me the
story about now are we talking about
paradise california yeah we're talking
about paradise cut to california that
and the some kind of directed energy
weapon was used in that area but not
necessarily everywhere
okay
i don't know too much about that
or anything i don't know anything about
that well apart from the kind words you
have for stanton friedman
and uh it's great to see you
um
finally about these lunar bases
and how we got up there anniversary of
apollo
i mean
what's your last word on that before we
say good night
what's your problem
yeah
so
i think you've said it
okay
you remember that that picture right
there
yeah okay
okay
now this is the one that i put on my
post
and this is when they were digging the
subway
and
you see
the uh the fact that you identify that
first picture so people know what it is
the the the first picture you held up
that's the casino
that's today's paper the reuse your girl
okay the reason i'm showing you that is
it says
uh
resorts world has a new present but they
showed the current
uh construction
of the fake casino now the day casino
was built by boy gaming and we talked
about that in the last our last
interview when i was with you in las
vegas okay just for people's reference
okay so then here's
uh
the uh the picture of the
bay casino as it stands now and
i think i told you that
uh when they bought the casino
it was a year and a half delay getting
started
and i told you i didn't know for sure
but i thought that boy gaming might not
have told resort to world
that
it was a fake casino to hide the subway
construction
and when
resorts world started getting ready to
continue
the construction they found out that had
not been built to code and it took a
year to get it all
into code so they could go ahead and
finish it
but that subway remind people what that
subway is it's to a new base way up
it's it's more secret than groom leg
and you will never hear anything about
it i watched it being built
and it's huge and
those subways take 2500 people up in the
morning well more now that was 20 years
ago
uh and not only that but they had to
build a new terminal you know i told you
they had but one of the bellagio and
they had one at luxor now they've got
one at aria because there's so many
people they needed several other places
to park all those cars so they built the
new terminal at the underground secret
terminal at aria
so
yeah but but john you gave me a map you
showed me a map with a big circle on it
and if it's really secret surely that
secret map with the secret
circle on it shouldn't show something
secret
at all because it's a secret
no that's how you keep things secret is
you don't put restricted area and that's
the
mistake
that the secret government may have made
when they built the secret runway up at
ferber flats which is just 44 miles
south of
uh wendover utah
and
that's the way i found it first of all i
heard a report of a guy had a was
hunting gear up there
and he got close to ferber flats and he
saw these white suvs
trying to track him down but he was an
air force uh
uh he was veteran
and escape innovation
and he eluded them but he knew that
something really restricted there so
then that would that tipped us off so
then the next thing that happened is a
couple months later
uh
the air force didn't have to do this but
the
the secret runway fervor plants is right
on the edge of a bowl
a military operating area and we kept
the air force went to the faa and asked
to extend that mola out
for 10 miles
uh because they had
extra f
16
training to do
now i've never heard a [ __ ] excuse
it was that but what they did is they
included a map of the extra 10 miles and
all that did was include firmer flats
that told us exactly where it was and
then it was there
so when you have a secret base one thing
you don't want to do is
put a restricted area around it
uh there's one
on lake mead over where i had my gold my
gold butte uh it's in lime canyon
and that's a helicopter secret base and
i heard it being built
uh for two years there and uh
i heard the dynamite explosions where
they were going into the mountain and i
was the only one authorized to have
dynamite out in that area
so whoever it was
you know and the air force doesn't ask
for any authorization they just do it
and uh
but i i heard it and i kept tracking the
explosions and and i knew what was going
on so it's out there i've looked until
i'm blew in the pace of the google maps
or google earth photos
but and i can't find out where it was
even though i know where it is within
about five miles
but uh someday we'll find out someday
we'll get somebody who knows about it
the problem is in 1990
uh there were so many story i was coming
up with so many stories that they had to
put an end to it and they increased
their security drastically
and what they did is they started giving
lie detector tests to everybody that not
only worked at the test type but that
worked at lawrence livermore and was not
on the labs and the first question
the first question in this lie detector
test was do you know john lear and what
is your relationship with john
yeah but but john you don't tell anybody
anything you just you just tell a couple
of people on a private skype or
phone call
yeah well somehow they must have
added inside
you mean somebody else could be watching
this now
uh
yeah you know
30 years ago i had that little piece of
paper that california uh put in all
um cable tv boxes
and it said it's illegal
to use a cable cable tv
to look into a person's home because
people think that well it's a tv
uh well they can't use it as a camera i
guess they can it works exactly like
earphones you can use earphones as a
microphone and they can use cable tv to
look into your house
and california uh forbid that of course
like they're gonna pay attention to it
well
okay well
one last thing anything else to say to
your fans and
any any any other individuals that you
might want to mention
no i can't say it's been a pleasure
miles because you know
a trying
interview you're always trying to trip
me up you've always got that
trap that
you put out there just waiting for me to
say something i mean let's do a thing
like that
it's great talking to you okay happy
days
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