okay question number two how would you
define the so-called cabal who are these
people where they mostly represented i.e
what organizational bodies corporations
etc
i would say that you're talking about a
certain portion of the corporate
billionaire class of the world who are
mostly involved in
uh petrochemicals uh coal
like old
really really dirty uh energy sources
which
the people who are involved can skim
tons of money off the top so they make
billions and billions of dollars a year
skimming off without these really
unclean energies and the last thing that
those people want is disclosure event
free energy technology so they have
always been the main wall against
uh disclosure information because they
seek to lose the most so pretty much if
you're looking at
the worst petrochemical coal
environmentally polluting billionaire
industrialists those are pretty much the
enemy and and whoever they are and
whoever that they're really supporting
and putting their cash behind are you
know who they're supporting to be the
enemy as well not saying that that makes
everybody who's not them saints because
it doesn't we have a lot of imperfect
billionaires and politicians who are not
saints and not perfect people who are at
least trained not to be horrible fascist
nazis so you know it's if you got a
choice between
and nazis i think
is better than nazis that's my opinion
but
um
it's it's very complicated and
unfortunately
fortunately or unfortunately there's
mounds of incompetence on all sides so
to be honest if the uh competence level
of the neo-fascists and the nazis was
better it would be over by now they
would have won the conflict and taken
over and it would be over and if the
people opposing that the we'll call them
the sort of allies that the traditional
sort of western and whoever else comes
into the allies like in world war ii
um they're not necessarily super
competent either right now so we've got
this mix of competency and incompetency
and i'm just crossing my fingers hoping
that it all doesn't go to but it
probably will before the inland invasion
but
let's we'll get to that later so anyway
okay yeah interesting
number three there is intel that ukraine
has been a major center for the
off-world human trafficking with
multiple underground holding facilities
presumably containing hundreds of
thousands of people in different
locations is this true and what groups
are involved in the human slave trade in
general
um no that is pure propaganda that is
straight out of kremlin uh office
propaganda for sure
um now here's here's i want to point
this here let's let me go another step
and say this uh any anybody who's ever
heard of the q anon phenomenon that is a
russian-based psychological operation
i've been trying to tell people this for
seven years
and some people have listened to me and
some people have it but i repeated this
again and again and again when it has
been brought up it is a russian kremlin
psychological operation really designed
to divide and conquer people in america
and it spread it spread throughout the
western world and then started to spread
in other countries but it was a
psychological operation
designed to divide and conquer uh
americans um and it just spread but it
is absolute garbage now there is a truth
of human trafficking but it's not what
conspiracy people think that it is
conspiracy people want to say that's all
these things with no proof no evidence
i've asked people many many times show
me what you've got you've got video
evidence do you have audio evidence do
you have any documented communication
evidence do you have any eyewitness
reports that you can show me that as an
investigator i can follow up on they can
never produce one piece of evidence now
on the other hand i have studied some of
what is actually happening in human
trafficking in actual human trafficking
and looking at actual police reports and
fbi reports and dhs reports and so
there is a thing happening and it's
horrible but it's not what people are
thinking that it is because what people
think it is is a distraction from what's
actually happening so it is the biggest
distraction to get people to care about
human trafficking which is great but to
care about it in a way that is
completely misguided and misappropriated
and completely missing all of the actual
trafficking that has happened right over
their noses
and if you mention the the space human
trafficking to
to to other places and stuff who's
running that if you if you know oh
that's a that's a whole other thing that
is a whole other thing that's what i'm
saying
yeah
yeah and and the numbers are not even
what people would suggest or think that
they are it's it's mostly an off-world
thing and it's mostly happening in other
places and with the colonies and so
forth
a lot of that activity has moved off of
planetary surface as most of those
people have moved off planet to sort of
be at a distance from whatever is
happening down here with the stinky
surface dwellers so
you know we used to hear the number one
million people being abducted for
different reasons not just slave trade
uh
a year
uh that's not accurate anymore
not not even not even no i would say
since when since what time um i would
say that what we would define as
conventional criminal uh human
trafficking accounts for
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you know like easily you know 15 to 25
million uh persons
annually you know around the world which
is a pretty good sized number
um but when you're talking about
covert
you know military intelligence space
program trafficking
that's become a whole other thing a lot
of it because of
internal issues that have had to be
settled because we've signed treaties
with other species that actually
guarantee that we won't engage in
certain acts of slavery or slave trade
or enslaving personnel persons without
you know giving them rights and so forth
especially if they're parents citizens
terror born citizens etc so we've had to
clean up
our own slave problems uh in order to be
treaty compliant
so
those numbers have come way down and the
people who are really involved in those
things have moved those activities
outside of the legal sphere in which we
can maintain that uh or do much of
anything about it so
there are people who try to stop those
things and hunt those people down but
just keeping in mind the people who are
really motivated to do it spend the time
money and energy on it are going to keep
slipping around as long as they can so
but because we're treaty bound we've had
to reduce
tons of that uh within terran space
i see but that that might still be
happening somewhere outside the
i don't know
oh i'd say
the belt or something somewhere um
there
what i can say about uh the colonies off
world are that they are probably far
less regulated
um than some of the things that are
actually happening in parent space right
now so
and we keep reaching out and stretching
out and
you know taking new people and breeding
more people and
engineering more people to make colonies
in different places so
once you get farther and farther away
the regulatory ability to ensure that
the laws are being obeyed by those
people it gets harder and harder and
naturally the people that want to do
those things know that and they're
pushing themselves farther and farther
into the reach of that activity to
continue to get away with what they can
get away with so you got it i have to i
have to admit the problem's not solved
uh but we've made it sort of cleared
most of the internal cancer so it's more
of an external cancer yeah
all right so give it time give it time
uh things are changing give it to okay
uh there was intel that in the late 40s
early 50s there was a joint u.s ussr
operation in antarctica that involved
the deployment of nuclear nuclear
weapons against the german bases do you
have any data on this yes that is
correct okay
and it's correct okay so and the intel
says that after the us and ussr
supposedly lost to the germans the us
the ussr alone delivered 20 000 soviet
soldiers to the germans in space
to be used on the moon and mars as labor
and troops to fight the local races is
that true
um
i don't know about that specific number
that specific exchange but what i can
say is there
was an agreement that brought the schwab
launders into a grouping in which a lot
of people from around the world were
being pulled into
and there were also sharing of those
personnel for experiments and
augmentations and
you know psionic experiments genetic
experiments to make better soldiers and
so forth so uh there definitely was
a lot of different countries that were
throwing people into a pool
and that was being spread around
that was not a tribute to to someone for
for a vic for a military loss it may
have it may have i don't not privy to
that specific exchange so it may have
okay yeah
okay so what intel do you have about the
russian portion of the hsp are they a
separate ssp what's their main specialty
in function and what's the russian space
military's combat skills and personal
qualities
um
my understanding is that
most of the departments now in different
countries i've been absorbed and
amalgamized into the larger space
program so
whatever
i would say comparably the russians
secret space program is not unlike the
air for the united states air force's
covert space program which is not that
good but
everything and everyone is getting
funneled up so personnel material
resources
always get funneled up okay it doesn't
always come back the other way i get it
so so
this is now a joint this is now a joint
endeavor and what what is the name do
you have a name for that is it like a
joint ssb internet uh yes it's the earth
defense force the edf
yes and what about the the jdfc
i don't know say what does the jdx say
i think it's joined defense forces
command
have you heard oh
you know there are so many acronyms uh
that sounds like an acronym of a
department that probably exists right
again there's there's there's jdfc
there's jsoc that i heard about it's
called join right joints uh
special operations command oh yeah yeah
yeah man yeah yeah
is that is that what's uh i mean i mean
i i've i've heard of i've heard of some
of those organ asian organizations
specifically i also know there's like 20
more that also have acronyms that i
don't know off the top of my head so
that sounds good that sounds like it's
like an or like a
organization then is uh is now a part of
the bureaucratic
the joint endeavor
they don't have any special you know
function that has you know
specialty or something that they do
um not that i'm aware of my
understanding is that there's some tiers
of separation but as much of the maximum
personnel material technology is
funneled upward into a very very tight
cluster of personnel that don't always
want to let that information technology
drip back down the other way so and in
the context of what you said about
ukraine and the invasion there uh
whatever is happening on the ground
how is that affecting the joint space
operations for example you have a you
have a country whatever this country may
be you know china russia
north korea something like that you have
it then you have a joint space operation
and then there is this uh ground
conflict going on so how does that you
know trickle too
well at the moment it's it's still a
hands-off policy until it doesn't until
it needs to not be a hands-off policy so
uh the policy for you know edf forces
has been to not interfere
with
localized ground military action unless
there's a justification in which they
would need to become involved because of
some
domino effect of something that could
happen so what could affect that uh for
instance could be uh if putin makes the
decision which we're almost certain he's
already made the decision it's just a
matter of when to use some form of
weapons of mass destruction or atomic
warheads so that could incur you know
someone to say all right we do something
about that or they may decide all right
let's see this play out for a minute
because they're more focused on trying
to protect
from an outside threat and there may be
some
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some need to let that play itself out a
little bit for a second but i i'm not
sure i hear a lot of things that are
happening right now
that have been shifted and changed
because this changed things uh this this
wasn't exactly supposed to go this way
and the next event and the next event
was supposed to be
fairly predictable and now we've thrown
that off a bit and now we're in a little
bit of gray territory good thank you
are the space germans currently in
alliance at war or neutral with the
group that you represent
i would say that uh definitely not we
wouldn't definitely call them neutral or
an alliance i would say that
we're in cold war or hot war in some
cases with them right now so
yeah yeah yeah they're making their move
everyone knows they're making their move
everyone knows we're doing everything to
stop them from making their moves so
yeah
we're not friends
okay next question along the same line
has has mdf
or any other ssp branch ever been under
german command
um so
yes and no
the
farming launders has certainly
had a part in the fleet and have also
done their best to maintain their own
fleet and as much of a separate fleet as
possible while having their hands in
anything that they possibly can so they
have their own colony
on mars for sure and they have
their hands deep into the cookie jar of
the mdf in some ways or
had
there's a lot of changes there that i'm
not aware of right now because there's
so much influx after the
uh worker revolt that happened
what was that like eight years ago or
something like now seven or eight years
ago uh when they had the worker revolt
uh and the colonies and that
destabilized and upended everything and
that's still a changing situation how is
it how is it possible that they were
they were somehow in control of mdf if
mdf is a separate you know earth
i won't say in control of i will say
having their hands deeply involved
because
we've had to share certain technology
and spaces and information with them
because there's been a treaty for
decades where they're all part of the
covert the global
terran earth uh covert military space
program so
we've we've known for decades since the
end of world war ii that they were just
biding their time until they could try
again because you know nazis got to do
like nazis got to do and try and take
over the world
that's just what they do they suck but
they've got to keep trying
until we squash them and i'm all for
squashing them thank you very much but
uh we knew it was coming but we've had
to play this kind of cold
war cooperation thing but no i i'd say
it's getting pretty ugly in some cases
but i don't know that everybody's just
actively trying to shoot anybody out of
the sky yet but give it a minute that's
common
okay how many worlds does terra have
bases slash rep representatives on today
to your knowledge
um i would say we have bases
and
embassies on no less than
gosh probably over over 50 or 60 worlds
right now
bases under embassies yeah that's and
that's growing that number grows every
year yeah every year that number grows
are there any assets from the baltic
countries in the ssp estonia latvia that
many and what is their what are their
capacities
um again there's always been an uh
a goal to filter up so
superior personnel from all ranks all
services all military branches are
always being looked at and asked to come
join and do other things and so
i'm certain that there are i have no
idea what numbers uh but you know pilots
engineers
you know
soldiers probably all the things that
everyone else does
they pick the best of the best i'm sure
they got a few in there
right so uh the next question you told
me that it's classified and the question
was how many turn assets are serving in
the ssp right now what percentage does
it in real time and the parallel
timeline now
uh in your estimation and i know it's
classified in your estimation uh okay so
you know that but you can't say
i see okay
i mean in your estimation is it a tenth
of
thousands tens of thousands or more
oh more
more than that okay more over a hundred
thousand
yes
okay
interesting
uh when was the time travel first used
in the ssp according to william tompkins
he said that the the the 20th back
system started working in 1980 that's
kind of late i think that's what he said
and you know judging from for example
penny bradley's testimony she was sent
to mars as early as 1959 and and and
and brought back so that's yeah we have
like 15 to 15 now so when do you think
was
when do you think the system of 20 and
back and whatever time travel uh
was established
i
i know that we were working on it we had
engineers working on it
on a theory level for sure in the 50s
they were doing practical work and
testing for sure in the early and mid
60s so i would say
by the early 70s they would have had
something functional operational
that they could use
even in a limited capacity with a limber
limited number of personnel that they
could you know travel forward or back
per year per month or whatever in the
early stages but that would eventually
like everything else become
standardized industrialized so that
they'd have as many units as many
machines as many engines as many jump
gates or whatever that they needed to
move as many personnel as they needed so
that's how i would say that's not
counting the the et's doing that right
right yeah no i i would say based just
on the trackable beginning of you know
drawing table you know uh testing stage
50 60s we would have had functional
applicable technology that we could have
been applying in the early 70s and it's
interesting that you have parallel time
trial programs like andrew bashagos who
is saying that
u.s had the time travel by 1970 which is
quite late as well right right so so
there was like parallel research going
on at the same time oh yeah always there
was never just one department working on
something you know you got multiple
departments and whoever gets there first
gets there first and maybe though that's
not even the most
the program that someone is most going
to know of because that's going to get
shuffled over here real quick do
something super secret super first try
to get an edge on someone before they
can develop it before it becomes
standardized that's that's always a
thing that someone's trying to do with
military tech
uh how is it that the competing ssp
groups seem to all have access to the
same pool of human assets that's an
interesting one
again there's a treaty yeah there's a
treaty that everyone basically agreed to
and that everyone signed that
uh
of all the personnel across the world
that would be selected and pulled up
that they would go into a pool that's
managed by an independent bureaucratic
organization which dispenses those
personnel based on requests uh need and
priority and all that stuff so there's
an independent agency uh that takes that
decides to dispense based on requests
yeah what i'm saying what i'm saying is
the the groups that are maybe not
uh
meshing well with each other like for
example you have
a person who goes to the navy on earth
right and then gets sent for example up
to the moon to serve in kruger a german
mercenary group and after that gets sent
to mars to serve in the mdf and after
that gets sent to the german fleet to
serve there
yeah
so it's like that sometimes people get
sent all over the place sometimes yeah
i mean
who's deciding that i mean how can that
be if if if you're saying for example
that your group uh the navy you know is
it is it the neighbor or the marine
corps uh they're that both are so
closely associated right right right so
if you're saying that you are not
you know friends with the germans and
then someone gets sent from the navy
directly to the germans or some rogue
german group as kruger or someone else
how is it um
how is that
working
well i would say that in the past it
worked very roughly and that it didn't
really work so well it just worked very
roughly and i would say as we've moved
along in time
there there have been some stops of
certain personnel getting to other
departments and
the flow of that has changed a little
bit for sure
uh as time has changed and i i'd say
that that whole department's about to
get up ended for a bunch of reasons so
for example if someone's serving on on
in in one branch like the mdf who can
come and say okay i need this this this
and this person in my fleet somewhere
over you know in on pluto or something
that is right well there's there's a
yeah there's a process of requests uh
when i was in the mdf there was actually
a number of times when
we did um missions that were off world
actually and we would get requests that
would come into uh our department or
through our command structure and our
ceo would come to and say look
i need
this many i need six 12 18 24 whatever
you know number he felt was based on the
request he was asking for i need you
know 22 24 people who want to go on a
seven day you know off world mission i
don't know where it's at you don't know
where it's at but when you get there
you'll know where it's at you'll get
told what to do and then when you're
done you'll come back here and it would
get sent off different places in the
solar system sometimes or
space stations not usually too far
but we get sent off for a few days maybe
a couple of weeks do a sidebar and then
come back and it was really based on
requests and availability so because and
there's some
massive bureaucracy that has all of
those
people
knowing exactly where they are knowing
exactly what their qualifications are
and this massive computer that's
smart it thinks it's not ai but it
thinks it's an organic computer it's not
the same thing um and it
can sort all of that information so that
requests can come in and it can
literally
within a few seconds spit out here are
the most likely
personnel that we can expend to do that
without suffering any negative
consequences anywhere else so it's a
massive bureaucratic thinking organic
computer that sorts that out
okay got it
can you comment on the alleged
historical division division between the
u.s navy and the u.s air force ssb's and
their respective et curators is there a
hot conflict between these two branches
yeah there sure can be
um so the air force really got a lot of
their stuff
uh early
as uh before they be when there was
still the army air corps before they
actually became the air force so some of
the earliest air incidences that were
occurring
uh occurred
uh over air bases or in the desert you
know in america and were handled by the
army airport which then became the air
force well the navy was you know if
something fell into the ocean
guess who picked it up the navy picked
it up so the parallel programs were
anything that landed on the ground
uh the air force would come and scoop it
up and anything else that landed out in
the water somewhere the navy would go
and pick it up and
you know that was sort of their parallel
programs of like picking up garbage and
scraps and pulling them in for
uh reverse engineering
so that that started some different
thinking and because the army
to be honest is very different thinking
than the way that the navy thinks
because the navy has
uh what we call a shipmate attitude
which is you're on a boat in the middle
of the ocean or a submarine
everyone matters
everyone counts because everyone either
fights free for their lives or everyone
dies together so if there's a fire
everyone fights the fire even the
captain fights the fire and the doctor
fights everyone fights the fire or
everyone dies
so there's no even though there's tiers
of hierarchy uh it's just not the same
as when you're in the army when you're
in the army you're either you matter and
you have rank or you're fodder and
that's just it that's just the
difference you just fodder if you're
nothing and then if you claw your way up
enough then you have some matter to you
but on a ship
it's not the same everyone has to matter
or everyone dies in an emergency okay so
i need and and you guys actually have
sometimes have skirmishes and conflicts
the oh if there's okay so i mean there
are navy and marine corps special forces
teams who operate on the land obviously
and so if something crashes and they're
close enough they're going to try to get
it first and if the air force is close
enough they're going to try to get it
first and i was actually at an incident
when i was in training where a vehicle
came down hit the ground and we secured
the location some other guys came to
secure the location and said well we
have orders to take this and we're like
yeah well we have orders to take and
they're like yeah okay and they
you know backed off some number of yards
and our team leader was like okay we
need to hunker down and take cover
they're going to start shooting at us in
a second and we we were we were better
shots i guess and so you know they ended
up retreating you know because enough of
them got wounded uh or maybe we had
better cover but
um yeah it was absolutely a hot bullet
fight for that piece of technology
between
navy guys and air force guys got it so
what about the et's you guys are working
for the the u.s air force who are they
working for primarily as opposed to the
name
that's a hard one to answer because
there are multiple species involved in
engineering technology genetic
augmenting programs across all military
branches and right now we're in the
dozens of species so i don't know that i
would be able to answer who is mainly
sort of
assisting or overseeing
air force operations in the e.t world
yeah i think we will we'll get to that
later because there are questions about
this too
it did not now the old if you talk about
olden days 50s 60s it would have been
the zetas it would have been the graves
but we sorted that out you know you mean
the air force
that's
um the navy we it changed very quickly
for the navy and they were dealing with
another group uh that was called the
cortium a completely different uh group
of species that looks very similar to
humans uh talks more like we do eats
food more like we do but is that like
the the so-called earth council
no
these were uh
e.t species that are humanoid
there's a lot of them actually there's a
lot of humanoid
et species out there but there's a lot
more of everything else there's a lot of
humanoids
and and the so-called earth council do
you know anything about them
um i mean there is a loosely agreed upon
uh
sort of like similar to a united nations
organization that is uh a garthan uh
diplomats and terran surface diplomats
and a few e.t diplomats that have
interests because they have uh colonies
inside the solar system or on the planet
there's a few very uh isolated colonies
of extraterrestrials extraterrestrial
species that came here a long time ago
and are occupying a very tight cornered
space where they just want to hide and
not get hunted down by the people that
annihilated their entire planet their
entire species other than the ones that
are hiding are they working with them
okay are they are they working on
cleaning the the solar system from
things like slavery you know
inhumane acts and so on oh yeah we have
to because of the treaties and i would
say that we've made tremendous progress
at that in the last decade and we're
just going to keep making progress at
that
once we finish this war with the schwab
and laundry and we kick their asses once
from once and for all i think that will
really settle it
so i'm ready i'm ready for it to just
get on because let's just kick their
asses already they're nobody
likes them so let's just kick their
asses i'll be done with it
send them packing okay
you said that there was a change in the
ssp management in the past 20 years or
so can you elaborate on who replaced
whom and how the policies changed
oh yeah i would say that um you know for
many years the
the air force certainly had a
stranglehold on the intelligence
community communities access to
information
and that changed uh that became much
more of a navy marine corps special
section operation because we just
started sending more people to brief
people we just started sending intel
officers to brief politicians to brief
diplomats to brief uh military other
lower military personnel you know and
the lower security echelons we just went
around and started briefing people and
just started going around the air force
and saying we don't need your permission
to go talk to someone and brief them on
something we think they haven't need to
know we don't need your permission to do
that so
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