i was a normal human being for a big
charity big portion of my life
you know i was a career military and
no-nonsense kind i wore a crew cut
when i learned what i learned in 1963 64
65
it it changed my life it changed my way
of thinking and i became
obsessed with what i had learned
and over the years i've learned so much
more
and as i may have mentioned to you
earlier i i learned a little bit i
wanted more
you know talk about an addiction
when you start learning some things
about a subject that is so profound
the more i learned the more i wanted to
know and the more i wanted to know the
more i learned and the more i learned
the more obsessed i became
and
you talk about losing a paradigm my old
paradigm literally
crumbled around my knees
you know the world that i thought i
lived in is i learned was not the world
that i lived in
and the reality that i looked around and
thought i saw was not the reality that
exists
that much of what we see is an illusion
it's
it's a result of our own
illusions we
we humans sometimes
rather rather than face reality we
create a little
little world of our own
you know we get up and go to work we
raise the kids we buy a house
buy a car
take a vacation
go on about our lives
try to save money put a little in the
bank for the kids college
and and live a normal life
and then i learned that there's no such
thing as a normal life
that the world that exists
is not at all what we think it is
and the more i learned as i said my my
old paradigm crashed around my knees and
i'm sitting here in front of you as a
human wreck you might say you know as to
what i used to be
because i lived in a world that was kind
of cut and dried oh you know do this do
that pay your bills
it's not that way at all
well let's cut to the chase here because
you have come forward actually you
contacted us i'm going to say
and said you've got something new to say
you've got something new to tell the
people
and i i know you're going to be speaking
at the bay area
conference and and this is amazing
and
let's let's find out what is it that
that's new what is it you're willing to
you you want me to divulge to you my
great revelations which i'm planning to
speak about at like at the conference
absolutely and and you know this this
video will not be edited and out there
before the conference so you don't have
to worry that we're not going to
going to ruin it for the for the viewers
well there's lots of little tidbits that
are kind of interesting to me
uh i assume i hope they'll be
interesting to the people at san jose
uh it's been my experience that the
people who attend those conferences are
pretty wide open open-minded
as i jokingly used to say when i speak
there it's like preaching to the choir
you know
because they're a different group of
people
well give me a i'll give you a tiny
tidbit
which i found interesting
as you perhaps
have understood
i have been a member of what we used to
jokingly call the old boys network
i've been a member of it for over 40
years
and when we created this group it was
made up of military types primarily
all ranks all services
and we even had a couple of cosmonauts
who were connected with this
who were providing information well over
the years the old boys have shared
information with each other because
we've had a variety of assignments and
jobs in the military
we had a couple of admirals
we had a general
and two cosmonauts we have
innumerable colonels and command
sergeant majors and
people from all walks everywhere who
provided information we used to share
with each other
and some of us have been in very
sensitive positions and had access to
very highly classified material
and we've been very open about sharing
that with others
which kind of kept us going for a long
long time there are a hell of a lot of
us left the last time i re
originally there was some roughly about
uh 150 members of this group
and and today there's probably not more
than a dozen left
we lost a good one you know graham
bethune died here about a year ago
and graham was a retired navy commander
who was a dear man
who had some very sensitive information
he used to share with others but as i
point out we shared among ourselves
then a few of us
who came out
blatantly
purposely
and started sharing what we had learned
with the public
frankly i never thought i was going to
get away with it i thought they were
going to stamp on me and
you know
eliminate me or whatever there was even
rumors for god's sake that they were
going to call me back to active duty and
court-martial me
you know well i'm going to be 80 at my
next birthday so i don't think they want
to call me back to active duty
you know
i could have an accident but i think
why i'm getting away with what i'm
getting away with so to speak where i'm
releasing bits and pieces of this this
cover-up
is that there's somebody back there
somewhere who wants me to do what i'm
doing
or i would not have been able to do this
but let me give you a tiny tidbit of
bits and pieces that come from the old
boys network
there is an organization called the
national reconnaissance office you've
probably heard of them absolutely a very
super secret group i mean a super secret
group among super secret groups god
we've got so many
groups now as i used to jokingly say
when poor old i
left office he tried to tell us about
the
military industrial complex
well it's a triad now
it's not just the military and industry
it's the national security agencies as
well
so that
if he could see it today he'd be shocked
even more
of course i'm sure he's alive and well
somewhere he's probably looking down
chuckling
but we are a triad now the super secret
agencies
with the military and the industry
it's all like this
but anyhow
there are people who i think want this
out we've been we've known for years
that
among the
in crowd whoever the hell they are
and no one really has ever been able to
put our finger on it we've been able to
grab a couple of them from the old magi
group the wise men they called
themselves
the magi you've heard them referred to
as majestic 12. well they're a lot more
than twelve now
anyhow i'm getting away with sharing
bits and pieces and tidbits which
intrigue me
because i think somebody wants some of
this out but the story i was gonna share
with you is that
in the national reconnaissance office
about i guess four or five years now
they had for a number of years a
series of satellites called the keyhole
system
you've heard of it
uh yes keyhole oh it was super secret
and probably the very best satellite
system in the world well they probably
made it even better now
they could supposedly read a postage
stamp from space
well
there were some intriguing questions
being raised by a number of people about
what was known as
the era rat
anomaly
are you familiar with the ararat anomaly
mount ira nozar
okay
and so
the guys in the nro
took their keyhole system
and focused on the ararat anomaly
which is
you know
a puzzle
well
when the word got out when they when the
pictures finally were downloaded
and they computerized and enhanced them
and clara cleaned them up
and they
pushed them on the wall or they
broadcast them on the wall there at nro
the remarks went something like this and
these these are actual quotes
jesus christ it's a goddamn boat
christ it's a big boat
okay
one would say why would something like
that
be so highly classified that it is way
above top secret
why would the discovery of a boat on
mount ararat
be classified so high far above
you know anything
anyhow the story comes out
the reason they classified it is because
after they discovered that it was a
goddamn boat a big goddamn boat
they inserted a team of seals
on the site
now that's a term that the military uses
to
put a bunch of guys on us on the scene
right
apparently they
dropped them by aircraft they parachuted
down a dozen of them or so
they asserted inserted them onto the
scene
and these guys spent several days
in this goddamn boat
and then they extracted them
from by helicopters
and when they extracted them the guys
brought with them
some anomalous
artifacts
which have never been described or named
but those anomalous artifacts is what
led to this whole thing being classified
not only top secret but way the hell
above
and and that's a little bit of
information that's come out with by the
uh
the network so are you saying this is
noah's ark
no one knows what it is it was
originally the ararat anomaly
but then they discovered that it was a
gigantic boat apparently
and that and a boat built by humans well
it appears to be it's essentially from
what they gathered wood
but it's a a work of genius apparently
it was intricately put together
and it's it's it's it's really survived
all these years well
apparently the question how how many
years
you know
when was the flood the last rumor i
heard had was was 12 000 years ago
10 500 bc when are they saying
i mean i'm sure you have a theory well
the thing the religious implications of
it you see
you know every ancient culture on the
planet has a similar tradition about a
flood
and i'm sure there were many noah's
so to speak wherever but the idea that
this particular thing is so
theologically sensitive that some yo-yo
back there at nro decided to classify it
and then they sent the seals in and the
seals brought back
artifacts well there you are you see
what could they have possibly found in
this big wreck
that is so sensitive
your question arises i don't know the
answer to that hopefully if the old boy
still stays alive a few years we might
find out i find that interesting and i
share it with people because it gives
you an insight into that bunch of
nitwits back there that classify
everything bill go ahead with your
question about mount ararat and then
we're going to move on from there
um i think it was
charles burlitz who wrote a book now
this is purely from memory
who
which was called the great ship of noah
and
he published a bunch of photographs
these photographs are on the internet
of something that looks like
a shape on ararat and there are two
versions of this from what i've heard
one is fairly low down
and which is an enormous thing that
looks like a whole lot of ships timbers
um and there are persistent reports of
um
another object that's much higher up um
way above the snow line quite close to
the summit
and i wonder if you could say which of
these it either
has been
picked up by the keyhole satellites and
analyzed and when the seals were
inserted did they
do they carbonate the wood
well i'm sure they i must have
but i haven't got any information on
that
my my guess is bill that
the fields were inserted on the one on
toward the top up above the snow line
that's the indication that i got that
that was the one that they went in they
landed they dropped they parachuted in
spent a number of days up there
apparently
but what they brought back in the terms
of
anomalous artifacts is the thing that
intrigued me why would they classify it
so far about top secret but that bunch
of nitwits back there and i've known
some of them over the years i've worked
with some of them
and i think they are a bunch of damn
nipwits
you know there's no damn reason why
they've classified so much
what year was this when the seals were
sent in about five years ago from what i
can gather really yeah
that's bizarre well the keyhole program
uh
was really big in the in the late 90s
now i'm sure they've got satellite
programs that are even better now
uh
we've got civilian programs that are so
damn good that
the department of defense will often go
to the civilian contractors and buy
photographs taken by civilian satellites
that are outstanding
so it leads you to suspect maybe what
how much better could be some of our dod
satellites right you know they have
classified lake vostok
they took it away from jpl
who was monitoring it and you know with
satellites and all you're familiar with
lake vostok in antarctica oh no
oh god that's that's a sensitive story
in itself
under the ice in antarctica there is a
freshwater lake
deep deep down under the ice
that's 100 miles long about 50 miles
wide
fresh water
the temperature in the dam lake is about
65 degrees which is pleasant swimming
you might say
but at the end of lake vostok is
what's known as a gigantic mascot
a mass concentration of metal
very similar to the mascons they
discovered on the moon
gigantic circular shaped metallic
objects
deep under the ice at the end of lake
vostok
highly classified jpl had it
national security agency took it away
from jpl
it's one of the most sensitive things in
the world now as to what is the anomaly
at the end of the lake the mass con the
mass concentration
that is so
easily picked up by satellites
another top secret
you know
the common folk you're not supposed to
know that right why well you can't
handle it you see
the implications of it are just too vast
well tell me this um do the chinese know
it oh i'm sure they do
as you may know the chinese now have
gone into space in a big way it never
gets into the newspaper
but the last i heard the chinese have a
satellite orbiting the moon taking lots
of pictures
well uh i'm hoping that the chinese
publish a lot of those pictures
because our own nasa people took many
penny pictures the army took
thousands of pictures under the
clementine project they're familiar with
clementine i've heard of it it was not a
nasa program it was an army program
department of defense they took
thousands of pictures they've only
released a dozen or so
they took pictures all around the moon
backside
bottom top everywhere
well are you in touch with richard
hoagland i know richard he's a good
friend okay so you know some of his
recent research ah well i read his
recent recent book which is dynamite
uh-huh okay
so you know about the secret space
program oh yeah
and you know about the von braun and the
nazis and what's been carried over to
the u.s oh political system yeah
okay well that's much bigger but when i
raised up richard hoagland's information
and the stuff that he's bringing forward
about von braun the nazis you know
paperclip and you're saying it's it's
much beyond that so where are we going
well our original space program was was
all a product of the nazi party
without von braun and his crew and the
paper clip program
i don't think we would have gotten to
the moon when we did we certainly
wouldn't have beaten the russians
because the russians grabbed their crowd
they also went to germany and grabbed a
bunch of scientists
and then the russians have a tremendous
scientific program of their own
you know they didn't need nazi
scientists
they would eventually done it on their
own anyhow
but one of the biggest secrets of all is
the secret space program the fact that
nasa is
it's like
blue book used to be
i think it's a public relations front
right yeah blue book never handled the
real good stuff
and
everybody knew that
except the common folk out there
who were diddled regularly and never
told the truth about anything
but the big secret seems to have been
for so long is why
are we keeping classified
the enormous facilities on the moon
and they're not
ours whose are they
well that's a good question i can tell
you exactly who they are okay
are you familiar with the term anunnaki
absolutely all right well you really
have to understand
zechariah sitchin's work to really grasp
where we stand today in in relationship
with this
group
of intelligences and i'm not speaking of
one there are several
the last i heard there were four
different groups we were relating with
the anunnaki are one
and there are others okay can i mean
this this is very interesting can you
describe the anunnaki that you have you
first of all have you had exposure to
them face to face
me yeah yes i've met some face to face
okay now whether they were the anunnaki
i don't know
okay well the ones i've run face to face
were typically human
typically human i mean they could put on
a suit tie a dress
blue jeans a
t-shirt
okay walk in our midst and you would
never know and they weren't nine feet
tall or higher no the ones i've
i've met and the ones i've seen aboard
the ships are not that big at all
they're just like us
so we're dealing with four different
groups
that i've
concluded
my own personal view okay yeah you might
talk to jim sparks and he might tell you
there are eight or ten or a dozen more
you know i don't know
i can only tell you what little bit i've
learned over the years there are four
different groups that i've encountered
and they're all humanoid and one group
is completely human
and not all of the anunnaki are nine
feet tall
there were they were human enough that
we are related to them and they're
related to us
and that that that lovely little story
in chapter six of genesis is quite true
they did indeed
engineer
the
genes and chromosomes of an existing
species on this planet
god knows how long ago sitchin says it
was 200 000 years
the information i have learned indicate
that one of the major
tweaking what took place about 60 000
years ago
that
homo sapiens sapiens was tweaked and
genetically manipulated even more
so we're coming along slowly okay so
what four races let's let's name them
in your opinion well they're the humans
okay some people call them the nordics
then you have guys that are very pale
and very tall and very broad
which
some some people refer to as the big
whites
okay
and then you have the uh the little guys
the grays and then the anunnaki so those
are the four you're
you're familiar with and not all of the
grays are
an evolved species
some of them appear to be what they used
the term they used to use
they were an artificial lifeline
androids yeah they were they were
humanoid androids
but they were constructed
their laboratory products
and
they often wondered why in cases of
crashes
where there were survivors
that some of them didn't come back and
try to retrieve
and the story that came out among the
military for many years was that
they wrote them off
they went back and made more
now there are some people who say well
they don't have a soul
well i run into human beings that i
began to wonder whether they had a soul
but
okay there are two types of graves from
what i've learned
there are the little guys who would
apparently be laboratory products
that
and then there are the six foot greys
whose eyes are more round
and they're not really gray they're just
sort of a
a chalky
off-white color
and they seem to be
an evolved race all of their own
and i think those are the ones that
probably ran into betty hill and barney
at the incident many years ago
have you heard about dan burrish talking
about the orions that are sitting in
ships
along with the military actually
watching the planet right now
i've heard bits and pieces of that
i don't know too much about dan's
story he's come up with a great many
things okay but this is just just new
information that he's he's actually come
forward with
and they're watching the planet to see
what happens and whether or not we have
a catastrophe of any kind and whether
they might have to step in there we have
photographs and many of them i'm going
to share and show
i have slides
and photographs that
of gigantic objects
i'm talking about humongous objects in
space and
many of them are in satellites
around
their orbit around the planet
many of them are
in orbit around the moon around mars
i have a couple of pictures that i'm
going to share that i got from
a soviet cosmonaut
on what happened with the phobos thing
the russians you know their famous
bobo's
rocket system that they sent up there
some years back
which got knocked out of orbit by uh
an anomalous object that came up from
the surface
but it took it had taken a number of
outstanding photographs before it was
damaged
okay what uh what well you called it an
anomalous
i don't know object that came up from
the surface meaning the surface of the
mars
from our earth yeah okay so the phobos
program was sent to mars
because they had hoped to land a lander
on
the satellite phobos
right there are two circling mars which
are anomalous again that
fantastic word anomalous
astronomers consider them anomalous
because first of all they're going in
the wrong direction for a natural
satellite whatever that means
they're too small
to be natural satellites and they're too
close to the surface of mars to have
survived
because if they were natural they would
long ago have been brought down and
sucked in by gravity
and crashed
the fact that they're still there
uh puzzles everybody so the russians
said we're going to land on on phobos
it's about 12 miles in diameter
i think uh nemo's is only about six or
seven
they're going to take some pictures on
the surface well you know apparently the
intelligence is up there
decided no you're not going to do that
and uh
bumped phobos the the satellite that the
soviets sent up knocked it out of orbit
and it crashed apparently but they've
been doing that to the jpl craft going
up and around mars um
there is an intelligence on mars that
wants to limit
our access
to their reality
and uh they've done a damn pretty good
job of it well our our witness henry
deacon and i don't know if you're
familiar with him i'm familiar with him
i'm not i don't know him well okay
uh he has said that the anunnaki are on
mars
i agree with that so are they the ones
shooting down those objects you know the
various craft from jpl and so on look
zechariah has said and i know this old
man i i respect him tremendously
uh
he says they never left
they've withdrew overtly from their
activities on the planet with us but
their activities have continued
covertly
both on earth the moon and mars
and from the knowledge i have and the
limited amount of information i've been
able to get that the primary focus the
primary intelligence behind all of this
are the annunaki the same group that
genetically engineered us
so many thousands of years ago okay but
you've got n key and n lil right and
these are warring warring brothers and
one is working for the positive
side of humanity well you have this
dysfunctional family they even went to
war with each other
and man was in the middle as he always
has been
you know we were a product of their
engineering
they
engineered us as a slave species
they engineered us to work for them
but aren't they still at war apparently
there is still and in some of our remote
viewers and i know a few of them
i've done a little of it myself
and believe me it works
my i've been accused of being guilty of
front loading
so to speak because when i want to look
at something i know what i want to look
at
the the military originally trained
their guys to to not know what they were
looking for and then they would download
you know compare and such right but when
i want to look at something i know
exactly what i look and want to look at
one of the greatest of course is ingo
swan
oh
tremendous guy what an intellect that
guy oh incredible we are dying to
interview him do you know well
i he and i have corresponded i wrote a
nice article about him one time years
ago
and he wrote me a letter and thanked me
for it and told me he appreciated it a
lot yes
but he is a rare man he's a rare
intellect not only is he probably the
best remote viewer we've ever had
perhaps other than pat price right
that uh
ingo's come up with stuff on the moon
that you you have to read his book
actually i have penetration yes it's
dynamite and it's hard to get a hold of
yeah
yeah it should be reissued because it
would sell like hotcakes absolutely i
spoke about it on coast to coast a
couple of times with art bill
and apparently it it became so damn hot
that you know you can't find a copy in
it two or three hundred dollars each
yeah you can find one yeah well i have
i don't know if i still have it but i
had one yeah well hold on to it it's
gold
but ingo is gold himself okay but but
let's let's kind of like move back to
the question because i i want to get
sort of drill down to this answer so
they're still at war
they still have a difference of opinion
about us
now whether
in lil
and
enki
he goes by two names
whether they still are alive
or not
with the genetic geniuses
that they have been that they are
they can genetically manipulate that you
know they just in ingeniously
genetically manipulated their own
chromosomes dna
till they literally have become
practically immortal
now i wouldn't be a bit surprised
that
inky and then lil may still be alive
maybe they're running around with a cane
like i do and grunting and groaning
you know they got the great great great
great grandkids doing the
the running and
i don't know that
and i'm sure that no one else does
but apparently they're the factions are
still divided
and the the one side wants to
use us
as they always did
and the other side wants to give us the
opportunity
to be our own
species
to chart our own future
and to call you know to determine our
own lives
and there apparently has this been
difference of opinion going on so when
we get back to the national security
state and the state of the us right here
and now i mean you're you're an an
ex-military i i hardly want to call you
x because i think you're in some ways
probably still consulted here and there
um you know we're about to go to war
with iran what's your word what's your
perspective on this we're not no we're
not okay
and uh
that's my opinion
for whatever it's worth you know sure i
have a
happy
half penny in my pocket
i don't believe that we're going to have
a nuclear war because i don't think the
custodians
will allow it
the planet is too valuable
it's too rich a reservoir
of life
not only the humans here on this planet
but all the other creatures that
this this planet is is an absolute
cornucopia
of
beautiful beautiful forms of life
and not only that but but the
what is the
the fauna and the uh
what's the other term flora the plant
the flora
the flora is infinite almost no the
plant's too valuable okay they've got a
lot invested in planet earth
and they're not about to let it go to a
nuclear war because they have the power
to see that it does not happen and i
want to tell you something else you've
heard this old rumor about the prime
directive
it doesn't exist right they
have been interfering here
breaking the so-called prime directive
over the centuries so thousands of times
they have been interfering
according to our historical records back
to ancient greece
they probably had a hand in that damn
dust up at troy
you know they took sides there were even
rumors in homer's
reports that
the gods themselves came down and
took sides and played in the game to
them it's a game
right well the bhagavad gita if you
there you are
the vedas are filled with it you see
absolutely richard thompson is a genius
he's written a book about it huh alien
identities is called okay
read it if you get a chance richard
thompson
okay now i'm going to tell you guys he
worked with cremo on there oh really
yeah they were they were jointly wrote
that book on the hidden history of the
human race
okay cream owen thompson wrote that well
richard wrote a book of his own called
alien identities and it's filled with
vedic facts which you would enjoy yes
but the history is pretty clear they've
intervened over the centuries again and
again and again
wherever it seemed appropriate to there
be benefit on their behalf
and that's okay they've gotten in our
wars they've messed around in that whole
mess
okay but what about um
planet x
oh it's a reality
yeah yeah so what are they going to do
about that
well apparently they are concerned about
you know the story
according to sitchin and according to
the sumerians
it's a reality
well our astronomers apparently have
concluded that it is indeed a reality
for almost a century astronomers have
been
concerned and interested about what they
called an intruder that seems to come
and go from time to time and they can
they can measure it by the perturbations
and the effects on other planets
they've known its existence for a long
time
but they've never gone public about it
well
in the early 80s
the jpl the guy guys that joined for
jet propulsion propulsion
used to call it uh
jack parsons laboratory yes
which i think is probably where the
original jpl came from yes
because jack parsons established it
anyhow they they sent out a couple of
pioneers satellites back in 82
just to try to determine if there was
some truth to it
and the pioneers apparently came back
with data
which said not only yes but hell yes
and the pioneers concluded the pioneer
satellite data concluded
so wow
astronomers were troubled by that
could this thing be real and well what
did they did they
they sent out what they called an
infrared
astronomical satellite
i think they called it iras in the uh
and this was done in the 83
and they sent the irs out
taking infrared pictures
all around the ecliptic above and below
and apparently iras got
two
giant
positive
responses
that yes
the 12th planet the 10th planet however
you want to call it
yes it's real
and that's when the
lid slams down
so it's out there it's on its way back
in
right according to the sumerians
incition apparently it is
and uh if you're a student of history as
i one of my majors
its last pass was 1600 bc
the sumerians and sitchin and all of
those say it has an orbit of 3 600 years
so as like many of us you know i count
on my fingers and toes and figure well
1600 bc it has an orbit of 3 600 years
wow
it's due well apparently it is
so why are they keeping this a secret
because you're an expert on secrets
listen
every time nibiru would make a pass
it was not always
devastating
it would depend on whether the planet
earth and nibiru were on the same side
of the sun at the same time
and if we were on the same side of the
sun at the same time
all hell would break loose on planet
earth
well apparently last pass
triggered
the explosion of santorini
dara
the volcano in the mediterranean the
aegean sea
blew its top brought to a close the
great great minimum civilization
among other things it affected egypt
it's all in the records apparently
there are even historians and
theologians who say that santorini's
explosion is exactly what you're reading
about
when the plagues and all hit egypt that
allowed moses to get the israelites out
but if you look at 1600 bc and figuring
that was a relatively
recent pass
it's due now and apparently the guys in
these astronomical observatories
know it
and
that again is above top secret let me
give you a tiny example
for a number of years ago there were two
brilliant guys working at the naval
observatory in washington
tom van flandern is one who i hope
you've interviewed
no but um
yeah please continue and we'd love to do
he's no longer with the uh
naval observatory the other one was a
chief astronomer at the observatory a
brilliant man by the name of robert
harrington
right
and harrington
gave an interview to zechariah sitchin
a number of years ago i think it was 91
or so
where he came right out and said
dr sitchin we we are interested in this
because
it ties in perfectly with the work
you've done on the sumerians and
the ancient planet nibiru he said we
found it
it's real
we have photographs of it
and he says from what we can put
together it's a rather nice planet
it's about two and a half times the size
of the earth
apparently it's uh heading toward the
system the center of the system
we uh we've
concluded about everything about it
except that we haven't named it
and zechariah spoke up and he says it's
already been named
he says you simply call it nibiru the
sumerians called it
the planet of the crossing
well
mrs sitchin and i were in agreement i i
miss her she died about a year ago
she was convinced that robert harrington
had died because somebody bumped him off
because he had the courage to come out
and give zechariah this interview i
don't know whether you've seen it or not
it's on tape
no i haven't seen it but we interviewed
uh lucas scantimberlow
about this subject and and he's also
talked about robert harrington yeah well
harrington gave the interview to
zechariah and it's on a video called are
we alone
and i think you can pick it up at the
conference here next week okay i have a
copy and i sent a copy to
neil neal freyr who's a man you should
interview
okay well we're in touch with neil he's
a very interesting guy oh he's a
brilliant guy he's brilliant
he uh he just recently came out and
admitted that he's had a
an intimate interrelationship with
extraterrestrial intelligence since he
was a child well he's always talking
about the anunnaki i do know this well
he he wrote a book called breaking the
god spell
and he's he
he has supported zechariah's work for
years
i have a question bob
uh if i may about the provenance
of this information in the sense that
zechariah sitchin's work is very well
documented and a lot of people watching
this video will be very familiar
with
with his books and with
all the intelligent commentary about
that
are you saying that you have additional
information based on your contacts
within the old boys network or are you
doing
a
neat presentation many of my conclusions
are my own
you know and
they in many respects
correlate perfectly with sichuan's work
which is
you know neil has told me he says you
know zechariah really should get the
nobel prize
but i don't know what they would grant
it to him in what field
but he's such an outstanding scholar and
what he's done in his
the earth chronicles is what he calls
all of his work well i think there's
seven or eight of them now
i have two questions one's a minor one
to do with
celestial mechanics
and it's just something that i've never
understood and i've heard this from i've
heard this question for many other
people as well
that if nibiru
comes from the outer reaches of the
solar system it's going to be
an icy
rock
which isn't going to be the kind of
place that any beings could live on or
would want to live on
and
researcher andy lloyd who you probably
have heard about
has theorized that
what they're seeing in the photographs
that you refer to as an orange object is
actually
a brown dwarf with the possibility of
nibiru being one of its
moons if you like
and
there's a lot of debate about how to
apply what sitchin seems to have been
saying to
the real practicalities of life on an
icy rock out in the orbit of pluto and i
wondered if you knew or had anything to
say about that about that
no it's not an icy rock
and yes
when it makes its
long journey out and back
it gets so far away from the sun that
the sun is probably no more than little
tiny
brick of light a little tiny pinpoint
and if you you would think that it would
be naturally icy cold
no it apparently the planet like many
planets in the system here
generate its own heat
it has in its core a generating heat
system very much like our own
we have a system within the core of this
planet
that is a has been described as a
thermonuclear reaction
very similar to the sun
now
most of the life and all of the bounty
and all of the beauty of life on this
planet comes from
are going around this beautiful sun but
i don't think nibiru is a icy
rock no i i think first of all it
probably generates enough of its own
heat
and i think they probably did indeed
create for themselves with the advanced
technology that they have
uh a kind of a dyson sphere are you
familiar with that
you know what brilliant
british astronomer i think
freeman dyson said some years ago that
an incredibly advanced technology will
have the ability to enclose its planet
and retain not only its heat but its
atmosphere
and i suspect that the
anunnaki have done that to nibiru and
they probably did it
good enough hundreds of thousands maybe
a million years ago
so the the planet i think the the color
from it
the dull red golden color is a result of
that envelope of
of gold shell that they've created
they've created for themselves a dyson
sphere
around their planet
and i suspect that any advanced
technology
will ultimately do the same
simply because it makes sense it's a
practical thing
but
if they had that degree of engineering
capability
why wouldn't they just
live on mars instead of
hurtling through the cells well they
weren't the original occupants of mars
they used mars as a race way station
and they've reactivated it and i agree
with zechariah on that
that they've reactivated their way
system their way station there they used
to drop off on mars on their way here
so they were never i don't think
original inhabitants of the mars
there are
a few remnants of original inhabitants
on mars
there's even some indications which i've
been looking into then i've gotten some
data
that
we're playing a host to a bunch of
martians here on this planet
i'm talking about the original
species do you know anything about the
original martian species
or have you other than the only thing i
i've talked to a couple of remote
viewers who've apparently been able to
come up face to face with them so to
speak
and they ended up looking a lot like
american indians
okay
they
and i may have met a martian but i've
known so many strange people in my life
and uh sure i mean i understand this
well enough to know not to laugh at a
comment like that that's for sure so
um
that believe it or not was meant to be a
minor question i have a more major one
something that i thought you might want
to talk about
or maybe i had misunderstood you
a little earlier on i think in a
conversation that kerry had reported
with you
some
serious researchers linda howe
jim morris
quite a lot of other people
are really suspecting that there may be
a hoax alien invasion
as a kind of major
celestial 911 event in iceland talking
about a false flag kind of situation yes
and if we were to pull that off if any
of our idiot nitwits back there think
that they could pull that off
i i think they'd make absolute damn
fools of themselves because i don't
believe it would work i don't think you
can do that
when you've got the real power out there
that wouldn't allow that to happen
not so much an invasion but a big
display in the sky to create
fear and to make people easier to
control
rosin said that she had always been told
by william von braun many years ago yeah
werner shared that apparently before he
died that he it was one of the programs
that the the government at the time
was considering you know they've had
these little plots they've been working
on all the time
um
this war that war the stock market crash
this that you know all these little
magician things that while i'm showing
you this hand i'm picking your pocket
with this one
i
they may have had that in mind at that
time
but i don't think they're thinking of it
seriously now because i think
that our so-called powers that be
which is a joke
are in such close
relationship in collusion with
the real power
that it would never work they would
never allow it
it's like they're not going to allow a
thermonuclear war
there's too much valuable real estate
here
not just this
rich
gold mine
of human genetics
what a ripe
reservoir we are
of of jeans and
god
the whole species plus all of the other
fauna and all of the other flora
this is a valuable planet
and they they love it they own it we've
never owned it we just live on it
they farm us so to speak god
charles ford was right
to some degree
we are property
and we're going to remain property
until we reach a point where we can
literally stand up and say all right
we're going to do this now ourselves and
prove it to the the universe
we're dealing with a universe filled
with life
and most of it is so far beyond our own
i used an analogy one time
and i said they look upon us like we
look upon headhunters in new guinea
now you've seen the films you know
history channels and all the rest
they're they're naked they're running
around with these stupid things on their
penises and
you know bones through their
whatever
pathetic sad
primitive
savages
that they're not to be feared they're
they're not to be abused they're to be
nurtured and cared for
well the difference between some of them
out there and us is the difference
between us and these poor guys in new
guinea and those rainforests out there
now i i joked about that and then i
learned later that that wasn't really a
very accurate
comparison
i learned later
that i didn't even come close
to an appropriate comparison
that the real comparison
between many of them out there and us
is closer to how we feel about the
chimpanzee
and
bill
if you allow your mind
to take those trips
and i know you do
there are creatures and life forms out
there that are literally god-like
a lot of the remote viewers who've
encountered them and i've seen a few of
them myself look upon them as
transcendentals
they they manifest manifest as
living
energy life forms
forms of light
they're the same kind appeared when
jesus was walking around
probably the same kind of guys that
showed up with poor uh
was it
joseph smith
i didn't know the history of the mormon
faith poor joe had an
event one time happening in his bedroom
where two brilliant beautiful
tall
glimmering glistening beings of pure
light appeared in his bedroom
those are transcendentals
now the difference between them and us
is between us and the rhesus monkey
so i think i'm getting close maybe not
but i'm thinking i'm getting close to
an analogy that may be more realistic
you know i have nothing but hope because
i'm an immortal being i i'm an infinite
life form
if you could see me the way i really am
bill
it wouldn't be in this pathetic body
with the it's only our bodies
oh that's right you know this is just a
shell i've had it for 79 years i've used
it badly and i've abused it over the
years and i'm beginning to pay the
lessons the prices for that
but if you can see me as i
can see you and
we are shimmering beings of light
absolutely
well okay i have a question for you
because he's got a book out called end
of days yes
and in that book he actually talks about
nibiru and the return but he doesn't say
that it's actually going to happen now
he says
he thinks it's about 2060.
that was his estimate okay and so we're
where we where does this information
that you
have and 2012 how do we put this all
together because i
i'm going to say something about what
you're telling us because it it's clear
that you're something of an intelligence
analyst yourself you certainly have an
incredible background you can cross
correlate and and so on but you also
have some insider contacts and you also
have
um contact with anunnaki as you said all
right
so where are you getting your
information and
are they saying anything specific about
what's happening 2012 because
i'm not sure so sure about zechariah's
conclusion
that's 2016 but apparently it could be
before that
the department of defense is quite
concerned about it
that uh there are entire sections of the
defense department that are working on
that subject and particularly
the big question is
are we in it going to be on the same
side of the sun at the same time and
some of our remote viewers have
concluded that yes it's going to happen
this time
that we and it will be on the same side
of the sun at the same time and if the
remote viewer and they're getting their
information from
ets
and much of my information from this
same source
and yes we're in for some bad times
and we're talking about while we're
still here on the planet because we i
don't know that we'd be alive during
2016. well i don't know whether i'll
still be here or not you know i'll be 80
in in march and uh
you know i've got a ticket out of here
right i've got it stamped i've got it
paid but there's i'm nine years beyond
my warranty as it is
no but i think you're going to live
quite a while
so what
okay so we've got this this interesting
thing going on and we're getting
we have a huge crackdown on anything to
do with planet x it's been made the
laughingstock it's it's an amazing thing
oh the ridicule is is
i mean i think it supersedes even the
e.t oh it does
i think it's been so strong and it
actually has come
i would say from the vatican
so what are they so afraid of number one
and number two have you heard the theory
that basically what has to happen is a
protective shield is going to be
put around the earth such that this time
it's actually not going to have the
impact that they has in the past
i've heard that rumor in passing
and the technology exists
to do that
what i have a suspicion is that much of
what will transpire will be allowed to
transpire
the earth is not going to be destroyed
and the human race is not going to come
to an end
but it is going to be a difficult period
of time when it begins and let me tell
you it has already begun
the reaction from the sun
is is a clear response to the presence
of this other body
now this other body has already been
photographed by
telescopes in southern chile
and in new zealand
i had asked marcia to dig into her files
i i had a
i had an article from a good friend who
publishes a magazine in rome
and adriano i don't know whether you
know about adriano
for porgione brilliant young man
anyhow he has connections with the
vatican
he has good friends who are
jesuit priests and astronomers
and the vatican is concerned about it
anyhow adriano sent me an article
including two photographs that have been
taken of nibiru already
taken by uh
primarily i think the this
observatory in chile
but they've taken pictures at an
observatory in new zealand as well so
it's close enough now that optical
telescopes
have pictures of it and they're studying
it carefully to try to determine
what is they call it the celestial
mechanics
of how everything moves well
if our remote viewers are correct and
the ets have given us some
rundown on it it's going to be a
difficult passing
because we in it are going to be on the
same side of the sun at the same time
and that means all hell is going to
break loose now
they have the technology
we're talking about
not only anunnaki
there are intelligences out there
that
began a billion years ago then they have
technology that puts them in a category
of what
kaku would call a type 3 civilization
so that a type 3 civilization has the
technology
to ameliorate and mitigate
the passing of nibiru
now whether they do that
as you say put a protracted protective
shield around it nibiru has done that
for itself
they have a protective shield around
their planet
which is why in the photographs it comes
out as kind of
reddish gold
and apparently that's why they came here
for the gold in the first place because
they were losing their atmosphere
and they needed to
seed gold particles in their atmosphere
to keep the atmosphere from you know
they go on a long trip out there okay
but the anunnaki are here you're saying
and yet the anunnaki are supposedly on
nibiru as well or or what what are you
thinking or what are you what's your
source is telling you about this
the civilization the anunnaki
civilization
is on the planet
but the anunnaki
are on this planet as well
all over the damn place
under the sea
if facilities that we know about inside
mount hayes in alaska
inside mount perdito and the pyrenees
there's one right in the middle of
australia
which is near what
alice springs
and what what's the facility out there
find out time gap yes thank you my
friend
fine gap
and that happens to be the r r facility
according to the remote viewers
what's r r i'm sorry
rest and relaxation that's what we used
to call it in the military when we the r
r facility for who what the e.t and the
annunaki's yes pine gap and they're
dealing with human beings they need rest
and relaxation
but anyhow the rumor is that pine gap is
primarily an rnr facility
have you been there
i've been to australia i haven't been to
plain gap no
would you lie to me
um sometimes maybe but not right now no
okay
no i haven't been to pine yet
a lot of my work has been a result of
analyzing and sifting and evaluating the
work of others
that's what an
intelligence analyst does
takes data from a
variety of sources but i have some
information that i have been provided
from sources within the uh us government
that tell me that yes
they are deeply concerned about it and
they're worried sick about it and they
don't know what to do about it because
we don't have the power to do a damn
thing about it
is the estimated
date as best you are given to understand
by your sources
in the next few years rather than
simpson's estimate of 2016.
well let me tell you something about
you talking about 2012
i'm talking well there are some
there are some serious plandex
researchers who say that we'll see the
thing next year and the thing is going
to start i think you may see it next
year but i don't think you're going to
have the
hell breaking loose until maybe about
2020.
you're going to have a buildup
of factors
it's not going to happen all of a sudden
just like that you're not going to go
out the front door and all hell's
breaking loose
you're going to see a series of events
taking place involving
our geologic
structures you're going to have
increased volcanic volcanic activity
you're going to have increased sunspot
activity
we're at a low right now
but you're going to see tremendous
sunspot activity you're going to see
tremendous geologic activity the ring of
fire will probably erupt
now these are all going to be clues that
all hell is coming you know
you're going to have
storms
the site the cyclones have been getting
worse and the hurricanes have been
getting worse
and you begin having hurricanes showing
up in places that they really haven't
troubled us for a long long time so
you're going to have a con
a build up
not slowly but it's a consistent build
up
of geological and weather
and sunspot activities
and you're probably going
the estimate that i've heard from people
who have studied it is about 2020.
okay but we have heard that sitchin
as well meaning as he may be is working
for the government
and my understanding would be is that
they don't want this information out so
they're doing everything in their power
to make sure that it's ridiculed as
we've observed carrie what what could
the government or anyone else
tell you
what could they say to you
would would they tell you that
grab your hat dig a hole hang on
would would anything is that what the
underground basis is all about well i
have always had the conviction and i've
put this together over the years
that the the so-called elite the creme
de la creme when they're self-designated
you know
they have been
preparing
for chaos
for years
it initially was initiated by
the thermonuclear threat with the
soviets
underground
you know fallout shelters where we could
go
we had our own air conditioning we can
have our own food supplies and our own
water supplies
that was
a program that began that i worked very
closely with when i was with fema over
the years
i've been in underground facilities you
wouldn't believe
and there are facilities
everywhere
that are not known i mean there's a big
facility right under fort huachuca here
in arizona i mean a massive one ever
come out
i'm telling it now but you know there's
a deep deep massive underground facility
under fort huachuca
they're all over the place
and and
i went to a department of energy school
at uh
camp mercury in nevada
that was the first time i visited site
51. i may have shared that with you
anyhow i went to school in well 79
department of energy school on the
radioactive emergency disaster response
anyhow so you went into the underground
base at 51. no i talked to the guys who
built some of them
i also took a bus ride over the pass
from from camp mercury
which is the atomic test facility there
over the i went into site 51 groom lake
from the rear
and uh
it was no big thing just a tremendous
facility there most of it was
underground
and the hangar so so okay first they
reacted to the soviet threat and all
that and then it'll build up slowly and
it's it's already subtly begun
and
they don't want to talk about it no one
wants to share it
i mean look for god's sake what they've
the the lid they've kept on the reality
of e.t activity on the moon and mars
oh with the ridicule factor
and and the lid coming down and and i
think middlebury didn't lose his life
because he said too much
he says oh it seems to be a rather nice
planet and we know about it and all we
need to do is name it and then bless his
heart you know he'd never had a heart
problem but within a year he was dead
with a heart attack
you know when ike met that crowd at
murak
which is now edwards
right in 54.
he met the anunnaki
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poor ike not long after that had a heart
attack
it was more than he was able to deal
with
the shock of that reality
took a toll on him
and that's one of the reasons why the
brookings report reached the conclusion
it did you can't tell those poor folks
out there all this they couldn't handle
it
well bs they can handle it
human beings can handle anything
i mean we i have to agree with you we've
gone through hell over the centuries
we've if we can handle attila the hun
and and adolf hitler we can handle
anything
we've been designed to handle anything
we haven't been designed to live very
long
but then again there's another story
there
right
where did you think that this tremendous
outpouring of knowledge
on the double helix
our rna our dna and all that has been
coming forth
is there some connection with the fact
that maybe we
now have a relationship with the guys
who originally designed us in the first
place
sure of course we have
we're now in the process of redesigning
and engineering our own dna
and we're being told how
we're being shown how
and thank god they're sharing it with us
now because the first time poor old
adama
and iwa
wanted the knowledge they threw them out
of the garden as it were you know
and that's another thing i want to talk
about briefly in passing is that there's
no such thing as original sin
and that's a crock of manure
that's been forced down your throats for
thousands of years
there's no such thing as original sin
the human race never fell
it was pushed
and this this species
that you and i are a part of this
beautiful wonderful hopefully
incredible race of humans
does have a future
and it is in the stars
and we are going out there to reclaim
our rightful place
where we should have been in the first
place okay and this gets into the secret
space program and terraforming because
there is some terraforming going on for
preparing for what might happen
if naveru comes through and if the earth
is in such a state
we're talking about terraforming mars
maybe beyond have you heard things about
this terror farming is a fine art it's
been going on for
millions of years the earth itself was
terraformed right
you know it was prepared the garden was
prepared for life
and then life was introduced
and has been nurtured since from the
very beginning
terraforming is a fine art and some of
those guys out there
who've been around a billion years
are pretty good at it
so
you see i don't know whether they're
planning to re re-terraform us after
nibiru passes
or are they going to try to help
alleviate the damage in the meantime
i would
suspect that the latter
maybe they are planning
through their engineering genius and my
god the fact is that
you know they've got artificially
constructed objects in space in the
rings of saturn
that are over 2 000 miles long
spaceships
two thousand miles long i have pictures
i'll share in
next week
okay what about um john walson
you know are you familiar with his
pictures of the craft around the sun
i've heard of it but i haven't seen them
just wondering
we've got we've got objects i have
photographs taken by apollo 13
of alien ships five miles long and i'm
showing those over
san jose wonderful now those were taken
by our own astronauts now you get the
guys on apollo 13 and they're all from
what i understand all three still alive
and you won't get a one of them to admit
who snapped the shutter on that camera
but the film is there and the
the negative number is there
the uh
roll number is there
and there it is nasa photograph
of a five mile long
artificial spaceship
now and that's only that's small
well
let's talk about the astronauts for a
minute because what's going on with
clark mcclelland and and why is he
having such a problem coming forward
i didn't know clark was having a problem
he has a book that he's trying to write
he's uh he's he's penniless he's had a
terrible time
um they don't want him to talk no they
probably don't
okay
and
have you met you know have you talked to
the astronauts what about edgar mitchell
have you talked to ed
i talked before he died with gordon
cooper
uh
i was on the phone a few times with
cooper he even sent me a autographed
photograph of himself
i admired him because he was one of the
mavericks who had the courage to come
out and say what he had seen
i've known
ed mitchell for some years
every time i get a chance to see him i
chat with him and i consider him a
delightful man
he's very warm and
terribly bright are they mind-controlled
to some degree has their mind have their
minds
cooper never was
okay they never got to gordon
and i don't think they got to neil
armstrong either
but all of the rest of them to some
level have been kind of
well what's the word i'm looking for
here
they have been
conditioned
not to speak
and in some cases they may have been
hypnotically
affected
to not remember
dark mission hoagland says
and the evidence is pretty clear
that
they
hypnotically
debriefed as what they call it
but supposedly they were hypnotized to
help them enhance their memory and
to recall and
apparently some of them had been
hypnotically
advised
not to remember certain things
as much as i admire ed mitchell and
respect him tremendous wonderful guy
he has admitted
publicly in front of other people
that his time on the moon walking on the
moon
was kind of vague
he he can't
he can't recall
everything
and of course
that's sad
i don't think they ever got to
neil armstrong
because when he when he got back he left
the program said to hell with it i'm out
of here he went back to cincinnati and
started teaching math at the university
there
and and
armstrong hasn't said
five words
publicly since
and then you have a case of uh
aldrin
now
aldrin
has had experiences where he has been
with friends
and the subject would come up
and buzz would start to cry
or he would get nauseated
one time
and hoaglan touches upon this i think
chapter 10 in the book
where
aldrin was in conversation with a few
people and with his wife
having a few drinks and just kind of
relaxed
and somebody off
ask him a blunt straight to the point
question
and he had to run out and throw up he
got sick
now this to me is is a result and i've
studied it enough over the years to know
that that sounds to me like hypnotic
suggestion
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he has been hypnotically
conditioned
not to remember or to not even discuss
it and if he gets nauseated and in one
instance with a bunch of old friends old
fly boy types he ended up starting to
cry
now this breaks my heart because aldrin
is a good man he was one of our better
men to be selected for that program
you know
you know the story and this is common
knowledge
they got back from apollo 11.
they put aldrin in a sanitarium for
about six weeks
he had suffering from alcoholism
do you believe that
do you believe one of our best and
bravest
one of the finest
who in the apollo program
suffered from alcoholism
nonsense
you know that apparently it was the
the programming to be reinforced
now why would a grown man with his
background break down and cry like a
baby or end up getting nauseous in barf
on the subject
that's hypnotic post-hypnotic stress so
what is it on the moon that is
you know that is so important that they
want to completely whitewash it oh my
god we
these astronomical
societies
the professional astronomers in this
country have been guilty of criminal
activity you may quote me they've been
guilty of criminal activity for years
to not discuss the reality of what they
knew on the moon
there are major facilities and major
activities going on on the moon all the
time
not only that the moon has
water
now whether it's a natural process
from the satellite
or whether it's water that's been stored
there for use
there are vaporous signs of a form of an
atmosphere in the bottom of some of the
craters
now astronomers have seen these pictures
but but that dishonest bunch of nitwits
won't discuss it they're scared because
you know why ninety percent of their
income comes from government grants
and when you've got a government grant
and that's your so prime sources
of income
you're going to say whatever the
government says you should say or don't
say
whatever the government doesn't once
said
well anyhow there is a there's some
atmosphere on the moon at least in the
base of several of the larger craters
there is water on the moon but there is
major
activity going on i mean we're talking
about engineering
activity there are giant ships that come
and go out of the craters
there are lights all the time there they
have noticed bridges appearing and then
disappearing i mean they're active as
hell on the moon
but the same activity is going on on
mars
did you you've seen my photograph i
guess it's not only my photograph
but there is a city the size of chicago
underground on mars that's generating so
much heat it shows up in infrared
photographs
are you in touch with john lear
i've met john i've been in his house a
time or two i visited him i i have a
tremendous respect for it the reason i
like john is he's been
nailed as i have as a damn fool maverick
you know
uh
so i mean this is his pet you know pride
the establishment has tried to ridicule
john lear
and you can't ridicule john lear because
he's got sources similar to some of my
own that are
beyond question he's getting people
inside
feeding him information almost on a
regular basis i get mine in bits and
pieces when i go to conferences and when
i meet people
you know but john gets it direct
okay i have a question for you about
arlington institute and what's happening
in might be happening in october because
we have a lot of information coming at
us
about october
and about something that may be planned
um i don't know if you've heard some of
this stuff uh
we have
our top secret witnesses are coming at
us saying you know that the economy is
being engineered to crash here in the
u.s oh this whole thing has been
engineered
all right it's been dittled
you know this this is a joke
and and the poor guy out there the poor
working man on the street as it were is
being screwed royally
but you know this whole thing
carrie i would almost come to a point
that ninety percent of
what you call reality
are our threats with the russians the
the georgia invasion
uh the stock market collapse all of this
is all engineered
so tell us about it so tell us about
georgia because the okay to get back to
i know you know the guy who's head of or
was head of the arlington institute they
are sending out a newsletter saying
inviting people to
tell them what dreams and visions
they're having about october because
october has become such a hot month
in
in in tracking there's something called
half past human have you heard of them
in passing just they're they're doing
you know uh they do language um
they track with web bots all over the
internet basically tracking where a
language is going they've been doing it
since 98 with computers and so on and
they've they're they were able to chart
like before 9 11 this huge
raisin consciousness this that some
event was imminent what they they're
getting from octo for october is the
same thing only something even more long
range in its effect well i have a
tremendous respect for john peterson he
was brilliant all right i've known him
so if our arlington institute is
suddenly asking for people's dreams and
visions about october why marcia is
marsha is more in touch with john now
than i am he's a computer person you
know i understand i won't touch the damn
thing because as i told you earlier i i
enjoy my privacy and if you're on the
world wide web you don't have any
privacy
okay i agree with you there so okay but
but you know them and and here i'm just
basically you're saying this thing is
engineered so what happened in georgia
what do you know about it oh it was all
engineered
okay so the russians you know that were
tipped off
the president of georgia did what he did
just to lure the russians in
right
and he went in
the russians could not have ignored him
for god's sake he invaded one of their
little
well so what's the purpose behind it
though we know what happened but why
i think the time what what could the
purpose be other than to just detract
people's attention
from this over here to this over here
okay while our
your knees
we're all paying attention to the
russians invading poor little georgia
well the russians didn't invade poor
little georgia they they went out and
whacked the president of george's little
pee-pee as it were
stopped that and they pulled back you
know right that was
you know how the magician works
he gets you in front of his you know he
he's got yeah and he's doing this with
his hand while he's picking your pocket
with this one that's right and that's
what the government is doing
and when i say government
it's not the government you think you
got
it's not the you know
god that's all of facade in itself
the government we've got
is probably being totally run by the
annunaki
because there is a power beyond power
that's pulling the strings right they
call them the illuminati
but there are guys above the illuminati
that are really in power
okay but we're told the vatican is
is is behind a lot of it and that
in in other words the vatican is behind
what's going on in the u.s
that there's a plan and you've got the
anunnaki this is not a positive plan
okay to take down the well they think it
is
do you think it is their ultimate idea
is yes a positive idea okay what is it a
one world government oh right
of course that's what they want right
and they're going to have it eventually
absolutely now you can have a positive
one but the growing thing right
the growing pains that we go through
before we get there
it's going to be pretty horrendous
not only are we going to have to put up
with this crap with it nibiru which is
a real thing
but this growing process that we're
going through
to end up eventually with a one world
government
is going to be painful as hell
and there's going to be a lot of blood
on the streets before it's over with
sadly enough that's that's in my opinion
a fact
and that's being
manipulated
from a very high level
okay but we have white hats in the u.s
government that are actually
trying to prevent this are they not
we have some good men
and good women
who are well aware of what's taking
place and what's transpiring and they're
trying to
modify
emiliate is that the right word
to make this growth pain
as painless as possible
they're trying to
not have as much blood
as it might take
growth from adolescence as a species and
as a society
is somewhat like the painful growth of
an adolescent kid 13 years old who's
trying to grow
up do you remember when you went through
that it was not fun time
absolutely so
okay but let's get down to the nuts and
bolts the stock market is crashing
mm-hmm you need to invest in gold and
silver if you want to steal
absolutely but are you telling people to
leave to go to south america what's your
advice i'm telling people
that you're in for some difficult times
and i say this in my presentations i
jokingly look at them and say you're all
doomed
there's not a one of you that's going to
be around 100 years from now you're
doomed so to hell with it enjoy the ride
no i tell people who are interested in
listening for whatever it is i have to
say
that you're in for some difficult times
it's going to happen
there is no way to avoid it we cannot go
on as we were
because some of our systems were rotten
to the core
in our banking system
the insurance programs all of that stock
market wall street
those guys were absolutely rotten
the housing industry the housing
industry that
that was bound to fail you talk about a
bubble
it was bound to fail
it had to fail well i'm glad it failed
hope the hell that they learned
something from it
no
okay but we're talk are we talking about
martial law in the united states i mean
what are we talking here
you're you're talking about a time when
you may have martial law
uh it's only one
step away
you know that the authority has been
given to the president to declare it
right
congress
gave that authority
to the president years ago i've even
lost track of how long it's been but
anyhow all the president has to do
whoever he may be and that doesn't
matter much anymore either
because one
nitwit is very much like the other
you have a national emergency and it's
declared
right boom
martial law
you declare a national emergency which
has not been declared yet right but
we're right on the edge of it right and
you're going to have martial law
okay but we don't have an election right
well that
you you're thinking about an october
surprise i have no idea i'm asking well
i don't know about that i i'm not sure
it'll happen in october i i suspect it
may occur within the next year
but i don't know i haven't had any
dreams my dreams have been pretty
fascinating recently
but none of them have been terribly
troubling
and
i know this is all happening it's going
to take place there's it's inevitable
it's been orchestrated
the illuminati do exist
they are in power
they've been in power for years they've
been demonstrating that power ever since
1913
when they created the uh
what the hell is that this banking
system the
federal reserve federal reserve yeah
which is a private corporation
we lost most of it in 47. i don't know
whether you were aware of that but that
was a big year
national security became everything
it became the member of the triad
47 we declared
we made the national security agency
we
formed a pact with the brits the
australians the canadians and new
zealands
the yukusa pact which most people don't
even know exists
the acousa crowd all of us britain us
canada new zealand australia are all
like this
whoever's in the white house and who's
ever at buckingham palace it don't
matter
all right the power behind the scenes
has been running this damn thing since
1947
and ike saw it scared the hell out of
him he met the anunnaki that scared the
hell out of him so they're pulling our
strings now like they always have
okay
so what's your solution what would you
tell people i mean in facing the future
in trying to reinvent the future
certainly marsha's working with people
to to become enlightened she's doing a
tremendous amount of work to help to
help people
trans make this transition
kerry we're not just going through a
transition we're going through a
transcendent transformation
literally
a transcendent transformation we're
going to come out of this thing when
it's all over with totally different
species
we're not going to be the same people we
we were in the past
and that's good
and it's going to hurt and it's going to
be painful and i tell people and i've
said this repeatedly
don't get too uptight about it
you've been through hell before
you're gonna through a bit of it again
but once it's over once you've made that
transition
we're gonna have hopefully a new world
a new future
a new beginning
and i think that's the end of the great
year that we're going through we're
we're going through the
the end of a 26 000 year cycle
and well i tell you 2012
don't matter
first of all christ was born seven years
before
and this is a fact
and if you don't believe me get uh
sir lawrence gardner
who's probably one of the best
historians we've got working today
lawrence gardner's got the facts jesus
was born in 7 dc
on the 1st of march
now if you if you want to count from his
birth
like we supposedly have been doing
add seven years to 2008
you end up with 2015.
that's pretty close to what
you're saying we're actually in the year
2015 now no you we're in the year 2015
right now right
so that means that nibiru when you say
it's coming in 2020 is actually due in
about five years probably so we're
looking at 2013 by our calendar well no
later than 2017.
i'll throw 2017 out
okay and you can take that to the bank
2017. now you know that'll give or take
a year or two because
the celestial mechanics they don't have
they haven't really worked at all yet
we've got we've got computers you
wouldn't believe but they're still
trying to feed in some of the data
so are you is one of the remote viewers
you're in touch with ingo swan
i haven't been in touch with ingle for
some time but i i
carry
i've been doing some remote viewing
right
i've even had a couple of out-of-body
experiences
i've been doing a lot of meditating
when you go in when you step into that
world
there is no time
and you can talk to anybody
everywhere
all at once
now
that sounds silly
to anyone who doesn't understand what
i'm trying to say
when you step into that realm of
timelessness
and you remote view and you step out of
your body and you go into altered states
and you meditate
you're in a timeless
infinite
reality
that people communicate
you'll be some
you'd be shocked and
amazed at the wealth of information
that's out there
just to tap into
the old the old ones used to talk about
the akashic record
it's real it's real and it isn't just
about the past because kerry there is no
past
nor is there a future there's only an
eternal
now
and
a physicist sitting here in this room
would say balderdash because they
wouldn't grasp for a minute
what i'm trying to talk about
but old ingo would
yeah absolutely
well i've i've been some of those places
myself that you're talking about
i knew it
and so i have to say you're absolutely
right and and it's uh incredible
pleasure for us to hear this from
yourself
and um
i you know i would like to at this time
just open the floor and say is there
anything that we haven't covered here
that you would like to talk about and
then of course we would also like to
invite bill to ask you some questions
we've danced around on a whole bunch of
things for the last hour
i enjoy it
i i enjoy chatting with you two guys
you're you're
pleasant people
as i say i'm an old codger and you you
you plug me in turn me loose
there's no telling where i may end up
i've been around
79 years this trip
i've made
a dozen or two
previous trips
which amazingly i i remember quite a bit
about when you start going into that
timeless realm
you step into that
infinite
which we're all part of
uh memories of other lives come flooding
into you sometimes
oh god the things i've seen the things
i've done the places i've been
this life
are kind of shocking
the things i've done the places i've
been the lives i've lived before
are beyond belief
i i'm not boasting
this is not a boast
but i'm an old soul i've been around on
this planet a long time
and i amazingly remember it some of the
memories i would rather not remember
because they're painful
hell i have memories of sumer
i knew the anunnaki back then
worked with them
i was one of their products
i know them now
and i don't
have any fear
and in bringing this to a close i i
would like to say to whoever is watching
get rid of the fear
you have nothing to fear
you are an immortal timeless being
who has an infinite future
in a glorious universe
that's so filled with beauty and life
that
we on this little tiny planet couldn't
begin to grasp
but i i say to people don't be afraid
for god's sake
gather around you those you love
spread that love around
and go
into tomorrow
with courage
because you've been through a hell of a
lot worse before
so be hopeful
love one another
and have courage
and that's really all i have to say