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the point i'm trying to get to is here
that
northrop
borrowed a bunch of money and bought trw
space systems the number one think tank
on your planet who gave you the green
light i can't answer that
all i can say is
that
the easiest way for me
to
say what i'm saying
is my association
with three nordic people in douglas on
the apollo program
during world war ii
germany
was taking extraterrestrial information
and uh
putting in production
uh
12 14 different extraterrestrial type
vehicles
they're manufacturing them using slain
labor
almost 90 of that was taken out of
germany
before the war even stopped it was taken
to antarctica and is still operating
there today that there are some positive
artificial intelligence out there but
that we do have incoming
races of beings that are actually
artificially intelligent you know yeah
you can't even see them
then they put the american flag up
okay
and then they start walking around
taking their pictures and all around the
edge of the crater are all these great
big things which are
his his his his statement
armstrong
sir there you've got to see these
they're massive
they're threatening
they're threatening us
so
what i want to say again is you're
saying
everything was planned to 1999
and
basically
we were stopped at a certain point and
that's a very
you know um
crisis point in your book which is very
exciting but at the same time very
disappointing to hear so
it's it does it's not surprising because
in in a sense the general public
certainly thinks we never went back to
the moon that that's what they had in
their minds um now i don't believe that
so it went black in essence and and this
gets into a whole nother area but i'm
going to ask you my question in a minute
so michael
we were just about to you were just
about to tell him in answer to his
question right we were talking about
that i also wanted to discuss uh bill
have you ever got a chance to meet ben
rich
no you didn't no i didn't i wish i had
okay because these beautiful people do
you think that um
donald douglas senior consulted with
kelly johnson and secrets were traded do
you think that's something that no
question no question of question can you
drill down on that a little bit
uh well
uh
donald douglas was far more important in
this whole thing than
people realize i'm not trying to give
him a
a big deal but he certainly was and so
he for instance
uh
knew northrop
and uh
i want to sort of level out on northrup
because remember
trw systems that came on after all of
this early program things
uh
trw came out of the douglas think tank
that's where it came from
and uh
so trw then
had
what constitute i worked there for a
number of years
they had unlimited funds to literally
study anything okay any subject you want
so
um
the trw staff
the president
and
many of the top engineers were in the
ducks
secret think tank before
and
so
not only
uh
did douglas talk to
uh
trw
but douglas talked to northrop douglas
talked to lockheed these fellas
were not exchanging information because
they were competition with each other
but at a technical level they talked
together
and they then
like
the first package that i flew to
lockheed
at
uh in the valley there
uh
was
the first
paper
that lockheed had which formed the skin
the think tank
and
so
collectively
uh
the
information was individual for each of
the companies that we flew packages to
but there was also coordination between
like douglas singer and the top people
at lockheed
and it's not that they were
trading information but they were at the
same level diplomatically and they
communicated
and so ben rich
what what he said
before he passed away i think is
extremely important because he
in one statement
he came up with what the real situation
was and he's leaving that with
okay
it's your you guys next move
it's it's your next move this is what
he's telling you
it's there
you can leave it you can back off or you
can participate i think
those words
were unreal truthfully that's sort of a
box of the whole situation and
uh
those guys in the skunk works
at lockheed we're right on
okay now i did work for lockheed three
different times
one i worked for nav space
i was working for nav space in a
facility inside of lockheed
i
i delivered documents to lockheed
actually four times
and i worked for lockheed two other
times i actually worked as an empl as an
uh
as a
research
uh
wind tunnel model
expert okay
so and and that was the first time i
actually worked for lockheed but i had
delivered
packages to lockheed 10 years earlier
and uh
so
my participation with them
was then different than my participation
with northrop
because i actually worked for northrop
for two and a half years
and
the point i'm trying to get to is here
that
northrop
borrowed a bunch of money and bought trw
space systems the number one think tank
on your planet holy cats
um i mean this is wild
norther borrowed some money they went to
virginia
they bought the us navy's
shipbuilding company that builds
aircraft carriers
the massive
number one facility on the planet that
builds aircraft carriers now listen to
this what did they do that for
so they could take their engineers crawl
all over aircraft carriers look at it
and figure out
how to make
a 790 foot aircraft carrier into a
kilometer long spacecraft carrier
what better tool could you
buy
wow i think that when we address all of
these things that the different people
have done it's mind-boggling i mean it
really is
and
what about what about boeing
okay boeing is also involved with
building and rockwell
and rockwell building spacecraft
carriers
and and rockwell and also what we call
um you know i'm gonna i'm gonna say
something here because i worked on a
short very short term assignment
for i think it was boeing
and i was working for the top guy and
they were gonna be designing these
i don't know if it's you know i'm not
good with this stuff but you know f-35
or whatever kind of plane
and
at all of a sudden they designed a
starship
enterprise and
they took the whole division and like in
two weeks time or less and you know the
aerospace they moved very slow normally
at least in the public domain
they packed everything up and they
shipped it all down to a location
somewhere like redondo beach i don't
know where it was uh further south like
maybe even further south than redondo
beach um
and they took some of the employees and
not i don't know about all but i mean it
happened so quickly but i was working
for the top guy so i know that that's
what they went to build
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fabulous
ties right in perfect yes yeah so you
know you're right on it uh and and you
know and it was exciting because they
were excited
to be packing up and going to do this
exciting new project and i almost you
know wished i could
go with them you know
but of course that wasn't my line of
work
but um yeah so i mean it's fascinating
when what goes on now
what you're basically describing though
is a secret space program
that went secret kind of like
gradually in a certain way because some
of this stuff was out in the public
domain right
yes
and yet the secrecy became more and more
dense over the years and i know a lot of
people are puzzled by that
so have you
got an evaluation or a critique of how
the secrecy
got so tight is it the the infiltration
of the reptilians and the fact that
you've got nordics on one side
reptilians on the other influencing the
program well that's that's one of the
keys yes and then you have
the dracos uh influencing of the
president of your country uh and uh
so
this is okay so are we talking
eisenhower truman who were taught all of
them yeah all of them
all of them yeah okay and all we thought
the president doesn't have any real
power
does he
uh he has some
power much of this was kept secret from
that level okay
but mj 12 is behind the scene uh you
know orchestrating a lot of this as well
and you're saying this guy douglas is
part of mj-12 in the early days
right so he's very instrumental
yes and actually for him
to talk
you know
to the navy admirals and to the army
air force generals
to put together
the most advanced
study group on the planet and put it
into a secret tank inside of douglas
engineering i mean
yes it separated uh several years later
but
douglas put this together himself based
on
the los angeles event right
i mean this is staggering was rand
around during that time or was that
rand came out of the think tank
uh
actually there was this divorce that i
talked about in the book trw and rand
was it like that
well
ran
because of manufacturing taking over all
control of douglas and removing it from
douglas senior okay they did
and so they didn't want any of this
extraterrestrial stuff in their company
they wanted to make airplanes i don't
want to i don't want them even here
so
them finding out about this secret thing
blew the whistle
so
ran was formed
inside the secret think tank at douglas
and then there was this big divorce the
divorce took place roughly
eight months before i went to work in
1951
okay so that they divorced they built
they used this
building right in santa monica as their
headquarters
but then
ran
went worldwide
and uh
if you go down to san diego and you go
out to point loma so you can get a view
of of san diego you go up to the top
there where the view is
as you
went out there on your left side
underground that's all ran on the right
side is nav space
underground on both sides you're there
looking at san diego right over here is
all of this massive
rand thing and all the way back on this
side
i have space
i'm
you you don't realize
what came out of the douglas think tank
how many years is this that's 70 years
ago
i mean this is crazy okay but let's also
talk about nasa a little bit okay uh
because at a certain point i mean you're
coming from douglas this is a
aerospace com well an aircraft company
and you're you're
bringing
changes to apollo that affect nasa yes
okay
and top dogs at nasa are debuss and
von braun
and they're nazis
yes
and they
really were nazis they were they're
assets
and uh they
um okay so
it appears
from your book even
that nasa is maybe the first place
that's infiltrated by nazis and that
ideology yes that's correct
and uh
so
paperclip was not just
10 or 12 german fellows coming here it
was a massive number
of a tremendously massive organization
that
a little bit of it went to moscow
all the rest went to
to antarctica in those big caverns in
antarctica you got
five percent
meaning u.s u.s yes okay but britain got
some yeah but yeah there's a little bits
okay
uh we
von braun and davis were both principals
in that organization in germany
and so we you say well we got good ones
there were other good ones too that the
russians got and many of them
were still
uh managing
construction
of extraterrestrial spacecraft
carriers
which were being built underground in
germany during world war ii
okay you mean when they came to work for
us they were continuing
no during world war ii
germany
was taking extraterrestrial information
and
uh
putting in production
uh
12 14 different extraterrestrial type
vehicles
they're manufacturing them using slam
labor
almost 90 of that was taken out of
germany
before the war even stopped it was taken
to antarctica and is still operating
there today right
new berlin
yeah yeah unbelievable
right unbelievable so is that why uh
john kerry went down to new you know to
antarctica while we had a presidential
election being held
okay
okay well you know i have whistleblowers
who've talked about antarctica and i've
released information about this now i'm
not a whistleblower okay i am simply an
individual you're seeing this
by the military that's a whole different
ballgame
okay all right you know you're coming
from a completely different angle
most of the people that i deal with uh
have worked in a block top secret okay
they may i may even have worked with you
or near you but they have come out of
the organization
then they start talking
in some cases violating their security
agreements okay i don't know what that's
all about but
i am just trying to put it aside i
understand but this is a a radical
change for the military to be actually
bringing one of their own forward in
this way
and i wonder if your um
your enthusiasm is going to
is it going to be catching are there
going to be others like you this is what
we're hoping will take place that's what
i'm hoping will take place
because
the public needs to know about this the
country needs to know about it the
planet needs to know about what has
taken place and we've been lied to i say
this over and over we've all been lied
to
for
a minimum of 6 000 years
every country every european country
every asian country okay but let's get
into
and i apologize to you but you know this
is so important
why
do we need to know now because i get the
feeling that you're actually coming
forward at a critical time
because of something coming
okay you could say that i could say in
my opinion
i hope that this is going to take place
okay i'm hoping
that
this
will
benefit uh
release of this subject
that's my hope that's okay but but is
you know why are they choosing now i
mean you were sitting around you know
are you really 93 yes
so you were sitting around i assume i
mean
you were a fantastically busy person
building all these things and designing
all these things but
at some point you must have sort of
retired and and been you know
less
busy yet less
utilized by them
and you must have
you know even during the time you're
writing your book and i know that bob
would talk to you back in 2009
and i think there was some kind of
interaction with you with some other
reporters or somebody back in 2002 or
something like that
and this is what was written in the back
of your book and
yet
you basically had the lid was on
everything you were doing and and even
bob wood didn't come forward with the
interview he'd done with you back in
2009
until
one year ago almost one year ago to to
now
when
somebody in your the organization who's
bringing you forward contacted it
appears michael sala
okay uh
michael salas uh
uh
he's done his homework
okay now uh and uh
he's a nice guy too
but
through freedom of information unlike
many people
he has taken the time
and taken all the hits
of of not releasing the information okay
and then eventually
getting substantiation
for
ricka botta admiral riccabada before he
took over
naval air station san diego okay
he went to lockheed
he went to uh
douglas
and he went over to the northrop he goes
to ma to north american
what is this all about
and
four to six weeks later
bill tompkins takes packages to these
people
what is this all about
that's
now been verified through freedom of
information that michael salas says god
and he's got a great deal more
information
he's been pulling
substantiation for the things we're
talking about here okay
verifying it and
uh
okay but that doesn't
it doesn't explain
why it took you that long to come
forward who gave you the green light at
a certain juncture
one year approximately one year ago to
come forward
well actually
it's not like what happened one year ago
that i don't even know what that answer
is
is because
uh
let's go back to
the south part of oregon
and uh
this navy league council that i set up
in oregon
and uh
i had my ship models i put them in the
uh
big mall
we could talk about it there was an
article in the paper that
some people in
in in downtown
medford oregon we're going to have a
navy league council
and
so
i get the information in the paper and
then i have people calling us i stood in
the center of the mall uh three weekends
i had a little place there with
documentation about the navy league and
i got
70 80 people within about three months
and we formed this
navy league council what year was this
um this was uh
2009
2007
time period
and i
i
contacted uh
the
commander naval air station
uh naval base
uh
washington d.c
who's commander of subgroup nine
the boomer subs
and i talked to him
and i talked him into coming down
to
medford oregon
and the big restaurant there and
throwing holy water on this new
navy league council
and admirals don't do that
animals don't do that maybe a lieutenant
does or maybe a commander or a
lieutenant commander admirals don't do
that
okay
don't ask me
how that happened
somebody threw
a little bit of whatever and
this admiral who has a fantastic
background himself on the subject
so he throws holy water on
a
navy league
council in the boondocks down there are
we talking bobby ray inman at this point
no we're talking a different guy
entirely yeah different admiral yeah
can we know his name or not
uh i'd rather not put it in now but i'm
just saying uh so so no
what i need to say to you to help you in
your
understanding here
again for whatever reason
uh
i end up with some 70
retired
naval
top officers
in this council and you can't justify
that
in
a booney town in southern oregon that
all is there is just chopping down
logs all right okay okay
now
i can't give you the answer i can't give
you the answer of why
just south of medford there's a mountain
and there's a mountain there
where all of these
navy officers most of these navy
officers are in business
who they have their own airplanes they
fly all over
the united states and canada
they see
ufos
coming south
coming from the east
going into the side of this mountain
where is this isn't mount shasta is it
mount shasta
it is okay and so they take their
airplanes and they fly collective seven
eight plane trying to find the door
and they don't find the door and then
while they're doing this two of them
come out right just next to them fly
right
past their airplanes pretty awesome oh
my gosh what did you say
um
so what are all these
you know look you're you're in contact
even to this day with nordics you're
being influenced you're being
communicated with telepathical ethically
yes okay
so that's what they did they basically
kind of telepathically said this will
hey bill this will be a great idea for
you
you'll go down you'll start this
association and
if you build it they will come
right and they did yeah okay and they
did but i i can't justify
okay
why in the world would we have that many
top off one is a at a marine general we
had seven captains well i can i can help
a little bit with this because uh as
a tele a psychic to whatever you want to
call it i can say that i did go to
shasta and i was communicated with by
the tilos people who had told me
it was um extremely sad story about how
the
reputation the reptilians had taken over
shasta and that their their whole
civilization was at risk so they perhaps
were sending out the
you know
signal and this was in 2010
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and so we're pretty close and dates here
yeah as to when your thing happened so
you were kick-starting the whole
operation right
yeah okay yeah and i i it and that was
very moving for me and very shocking
very shocking and it was evident also in
the terrain you could actually see there
was a frequency
fence of some kind that had been put up
in that area
that was actually killing the uh the the
wildlife in the the um
the pine trees and everything you could
see everything was starting to die
which you know but i i have to say it's
really almost laughable that you have
all these navy officers they're all in
business which requires them to have an
airplane they fly
they're talking back and forth between
their airplanes one guy's coming each
the other guy snores and
one comes out of the mountain here
another guy comes in on the other side
and then
actually when two of them are flying
together
they come right out and go between the
two airplanes i mean this uh and and
then you say there's
no ufos okay um
i mean
to me
uh
well i don't see there's no i'm being
facilitated
we collectively say there's no such
thing as actually i mean it's yes of
course and that's back you know back in
the abcs of this whole subject matter
but
amazing stuff uh really it's just
amazing and so that that that does
answer some of my question in that small
way you know of how that this thing
germinated to where we we're now talking
today but
michael i i want to i know this is
jumping back it's okay that's all right
did you get your question answered about
the moon yeah i think so i want to just
kind of get back on that really quickly
uh bill when neil armstrong and buzz
aldrin landed at tranquility base on
july 20th of 1969 were they given for
knowledge of what they were going to
find when they got there or were they
just flying blind and they sort of had
four knowledge let me tell you why okay
we talk about these you've heard you've
heard
their comments about
oh my gosh there are other crafts out
here
this is before you get to the moon
they're flying from here to the moon
and uh
so then they uh
they describe some of these okay uh
very
one or two of the very large kilometer
or two kilometer long spacecraft
carriers
came in from one side of
the uh
apollo control module
so the apollo is coming here this
vehicle is coming in
like it's going to go exactly into the
vehicle our vehicle
and of course it makes the turn
and
you essentially get the feeling
you're being given the finger
okay
so you go on
uh you make your rotation around you get
all set up uh and
uh to land
and
so as you're landing
from
down behind
the crater
uh
these vehicles come up and park
okay
some of the guys come out and they stand
there underneath
on the edge of the crater so we got
two guys here and another guy still
going around the planet up there which
he has to get back
into and they're doing their thing
they're
well
again they didn't put the flag up first
they put up a freemason flag and then
they got this great freemason plaque
which they put down and
they
the freemasons take over the moon right
okay
that's what the plaque is for with the
with these reptilians watching
yeah
yeah and so
then they put the american flag up
okay
and then they start walking around
taking their pictures and all around the
edge of the crater are all these great
big things which are
his his his his statement
armstrong
sir there you've got to see these
they're massive
they're threatening
they're threatening us
wow
did neil armstrong take motion picture
film footage of these vehicles yes he
did yeah okay and what do you think was
the
the talk inside the command module when
they re-docked with michael collins what
do you think buzz and neil told michael
collins what was that that discussion
about oh my god first of all okay really
because this is this is totally now
remember
uh
we had
sent up
vehicles with cameras on them to go
around the moon to try to figure out you
know
all of the requirements
not only for the selection where the
landing was going to be but try to come
up with some sort of a feel of what our
situation was going to be when we got
there okay so that's all been going on
before
so we have seen and we have photographed
structures on the other side of the moon
and next to those structures a ways away
are foundations
of many different buildings that are
there so we've already photographed we
knew that
okay well i'm going to go back even
further than that though because we know
the nazis have been to the moon
right
yeah you admitted that and not only that
but one of my witnesses uh mark richards
is captain mark richards from the secret
space program from space command he is a
navy uh he was a navy officer on the
side of the navy and he was i don't know
if you've ever heard of one of the craft
that he was famous for flying which is
called minerva which is an artificially
intelligent craft
very few vehicle that very few people
can apparently even interact with let
alone drive yeah
so he he's in prison in northern
california
because he's i guess the he's been
framed for murder and he's the enemy
of the reptilians who are in office
and dracos uh
but
he said that that by the 60s and early
60s we had a base on the moon even
though we'd been told no we couldn't
okay and he said
um
that's because curtis lemay wouldn't
take no for an answer
could be i don't know
you don't know about that no i don't no
but that could be possible
all right okay he read your book because
i sent it to him and he said it lines up
with everything he knows
okay
um i'm sorry he's in prison
yeah well i think that you know with
your with your revelations maybe someone
would could actually turn some
some keys somewhere and and get him out
because you know he's he's on almost an
elderly man at this point he's he's in
his late 60s i think oh okay not like
not as old as you yeah
but uh he he was chosen the same way you
were he said in when he was very well
that's where i was trying to get back to
him that it's not just
one or two people that are
selected okay uh there's hundreds and
hundreds of these people actually all
over the planet there's russians too
and there's chinese and
and
so but
unfortunately
not making this nice
uh
some are
on their white hats and we like them but
we've got a lot of people with black
hats
that are that are selected to implement
whatever
and this is a real problem
and
you can't
cover this part of it up and just say
i don't believe that okay oh yeah
we are stuck
with
situations plural not one but situations
with which we don't have control over
and
we are being used we have been being
used and i hate to say this
but we're just a laboratory for them
stop and think
that's not your moon
this is not your planet
and
they own the planet
and we are their lab
we're their laboratory and their
associates laboratories other
extraterrestrials coming in doing their
agenda yes
no and this has been going on for eons
and we know about this but i have to say
there is uh there is a reason for all of
this and i i want to get to this idea
that the nordics are coming here mark
said the same thing to me around the
same time you're releasing this
he was saying to me on my one-on-one
interview with him in prison i go to
interview him in prison i've done it
five times now
and he said the nordics are want the
humans to come up to speed militarily
and in terms of consciousness etc so
that they can
join the fight against the reptilians
and dracos that are basically plundering
the galaxies
um taking over planets etc
and you've said something very similar
yeah i have to agree with that uh i'm
just saying that this this is our our
situation
and it's
uh and our military is very aware of
this and so what they've been doing is
funneling what we call black project
money
billions into building this secret space
program
that's now uh
practically what we call a rogue
civilization it's it's almost living
it's living so far in advance so the way
we live
in terms of technology and in terms of
everything else okay
adding to that
you have solar warden people don't
believe that we have solar warden okay
okay uh but it is
eight
navy
space battle groups with
destroyers cruisers other vehicles
support vehicles uh
uh
transports uh trucks all kinds of stuff
they're operating
off of nordic bases
okay
their families
their children
live in nordic facilities they go to
nordic restaurants for food
just like the six people in lockheed
which are here
working or they have their own
facilities in an area in burbank
those six fellows
have wives and children's they're in the
public schools there
um they go to restaurants and nobody
knows there
uh
the the manager of that sixth group uh
they are
uh
they have their own mission which again
is talking about this region
of the galaxy this arm
uh
and
so they could just as well have been on
board the moon facilities
but they're local
and yes once in a while they help the
skunk works but that's not their job
they're not contracted
and
okay
he lives three thousand seven hundred
comparable years and so does the do the
children the wife okay uh
the the children go to the schools
but
every hour they put in class they're
being taught telepathically
their own information
because
they can finish
a four-year
college degree
by nine years old
okay and they're they're right here in
burbank
uh now
yes we've got all this other stuff out
there too that's being operated in the
same manner and
those people are
um
they're not necessarily
here as a contract to help lockheed but
yes they do once in a while talk with
the skunk works make
side issues make side suggestions uh
so
okay but what what about you because
you're 93 years old are have you did
were you not offered
to live 3 000 years or did you
what's your you know relationship with
them are they just you know giving you
upgrades so you lost it even this long
or are they
gonna allow you to leave the earth and
you know leave this body this vehicle
and go back and and
let's talk for a minute about
extended life
okay
now extended life
didn't start here in the united states
last week
okay
extended life
was even implemented
into the information
that
the draco
reptilian group
educated some of the german people
so
uh no doubt about it exactly
so again you say well
what's extended life
extended life was heavily involved in
in the
secret think tank inside of douglas
okay another subject but then at trw
where i worked later on
it was a really big program
i mean really big program with hundreds
of people involved okay
but even before that the nazis were
reverse aging people
yes i have a witness about that who
actually said
vernon von braun was one of them okay
i've heard that i don't know that all
right
i uh
dr dibus
uh
all i got was he shaked his head
so i don't know that
when that came out shake his head no or
yes uh
no yeah so maybe he was i don't know
right all right why would they tell us
yeah
okay whatever
and i spent a lot of time with that
whole week with
uh
essentially
the number one guy managing
nasa
okay
uh
von braun was
supposedly the head of everything divas
was the real head
of everything okay
okay back to extended life
as it is sort of addressed today
what you do
is you take an aspirin aspirin-sized
pill
one every month for four months
okay
or it could be an injection
immediately you start feeling much
better
okay
immediately you start feeling much
better
at the end of or probably
way before four months
the guys revert back to the latest
number is 29 i've heard
23 i've heard all different
dates but
say
you go back to 29 so you've got
everything physically that you had at
that age muscular everything
uh and the young ladies go back to 21.
okay
you have everything that you had at that
point
plus you have a minimum
of 400 percent greater capability of
your brain
okay okay so that you have said that on
other shows now i want to know again
what's their relationship with you are
you taking going to take one of those
pills one of these days uh i want to
sign up for the program you do yeah i
want to sign up with a program i want my
wife to sign up for it i want my
son to sign up i want my daughter and
their families to sign up okay
but is there a bet in there somewhere or
is that fine or have you gotten you know
okay on that i have i haven't been able
to sign up yet
okay
but i'm just saying
that's a very real program
it has accomplished uh
both men and women to move part way back
not the full 400 percent of the mind but
like 350
okay
uh
the plan is 400
maximum maybe 800 percent greater use of
the brain obviously what the nordics are
already doing
already using okay
because
the nordic guys and girls go to 3
400 years come on comparable years so
this is again part
of our problem here
because
we're being taught
by the reptilians
uh lies
we're being taught incorrect information
even in correct astronomy yes everything
is incorrect yeah
ah
this is insane okay but one footnote
the anunnaki that zechariah sitchin
talked about
uh
the anunnaki are these reptilians are
they not in most cases
uh but there are some positive anunnaki
are they not aren't there in other words
that have started to
change their ways let's say yes and uh
we got these blue people too they got a
little hair on their legs but but
they're nice people okay they're helping
and so they're very tall yes yes and but
i've been in touch with them as well and
cool yeah
wonderful they're good people yeah
wonderful
uh but
we're we're just talking about twos and
threes here we've got you know
documented 23 different types of
extraterrestrials most of them being
good people
okay but then we've got these massive
capability with facilities of the draco
extraterrestrial side
that
you know they're controlling
and they don't just control this planet
we're just one of their
planets okay it's important it's under
their rule or not
because i know we have bases on mars
yeah
right yes
and so
i i one of the one of the whistleblowers
out there says there are wars going on
because we have there are different
bases on mars between those bases
okay and yes
many people including myself
have watched partial wars
with vehicles diving on top of other
vehicles
from the coast right here
halfway between long beach
and catalina island
oh sure
four or five o'clock in the afternoon
uh
2008 2009 both
okay watch them both one of my witnesses
was killed uh he was the the um
the guy who ran ipod.org it's a website
that was out there and he had set up a
camera on his balcony and filmed wars at
night over the almost
and off the coast yeah it's unbelievable
and eventually they killed him yeah
uh now of course it's the dracos or
whoever killed him right yes so
let me just ask you
do you feel that you're psychic enough
to look at someone and know if they're
draco or not or reptilian and
shape-shifted i i have said that i don't
have that ability i i at times pick it
up
okay but that's i don't have that
expertise okay but i
i can for some reason
i know that sob that was right down the
hallway right here when we came in
uh could be a problem oh wow
and i don't know why he was down the
hall we sort of
were on the run to get in here because
we wanted to get started i saw him okay
and i don't know what that was yeah
he knew he knew you were here yes
oh come on worse yes
it's crazy yeah no
well i i you know i want to talk about
ai as well
uh and i i i don't know if we're
completely done with this reverse aging
idea well i think it's it's far enough
to say that that's real yes that within
uh supposedly uh
less than 24 months
that program is going to be
available to some people now if you have
enough money
and if you have enough
facilities uh maybe you can get on the
list first okay i don't know how that's
gonna work right
um well you know there's also a
spiritual component to all of this yeah
that we haven't really dealt with yet um
but i also you know i i have so many
questions and i know that you probably
have a few
so i want to give you some time so at a
certain point we got to manage our time
okay so
uh one last question in regard to this
whole sort of scenario in you know draco
reptilians etc um
mark richards talks about the raptors
as being a group of uh reptilians that
went off planet after the dinosaurs you
know that when they said the dinosaurs
went instinct they didn't actually go
and stink but
there uh a certain group of them from
what i understand went underground and
stayed there and then a certain group
actually left the planet and they're
called the raptors have you ever heard
about the raptors i've already i've only
heard what you've just said okay but and
that they have aligned themselves now
with our
navy and air force they're closest to
the air force and that they're working
with us because their their queen
uh had was
was basically told in essence that
their trajectory of their race would be
more positive if they align themselves
with humans in a positive way instead of
continuing to eat us
okay i guess i don't know that i i
i
not familiar enough we know that
reptilians and and draco uh you know the
blood sacrifices the whole luciferian
thing the the kids being killed and
eaten i mean that humans have been eaten
and taken off planet et cetera et cetera
and used for slaves in other colonies
etc i hate to say that but that's far
worse than what you've just said
it's far worse yes far worse
and
that
the whole blood
uh
is
uh
it's unbelievable and um right i don't
know how we say that to the public i i
don't know how
but
wait a minute
just a second on that
part of the
this whole subject
uh
to me
if we get into that and i know all about
it okay all right far more than
you know sure
when we get into that
if we release it
70 80 percent of everybody that listens
to your program is gonna say
you're smoking pot i don't believe that
and i don't believe anything you people
talk about on extraterrestrial and it's
going to kill
what
disclosure is trying to do that's mine
you know the pedophilia is starting to
be exposed everywhere
you know that much is coming oh yeah
but
you know the part that i don't want to
talk about i hear you okay yeah
saying as much as you said right now is
actually great
okay you know what i mean yes because
you basically are
anyone who's hearing everything else you
say is going to have to come to home
with this and if they want to know more
it's out there it's more and more it's
out there yeah now uh i'm not going to
speak for bob
but bob wood dr wood who's
worked with me on the my book okay he's
he's a genius
if we were in the conference room and we
were talking and there was a big table
there
he would have his fist like this and he
would slam that table i want every g.d
thing
exposed i want it all
that's lovely to hear and i have to say
i'm having a hard time disagreeing with
him but
we can do another interview on that
subject so that you know this one it
goes out because i know you really want
this information out you want people to
start to wake up and we don't want to
turn them off to any we don't went you
just said it we don't want them to be
turned off we don't want them to not
believe what's being said okay and this
yeah and some
we can get into it partially but i'm
saying uh
i personally don't want to be involved
in doing what bob wants to do
it's too heavy i think it's gonna i
think it's gonna
really hurt
getting more people to get involved in
this subject okay they're gonna say
that bill tompkins is smoking pot i
don't believe one day i'm worried i
don't want to hear about any of this
okay i don't want to hear about it i i
understand let me say because i i have
interviewed people about these subjects
and dealt with this stuff and mark
richards is very open about it yeah uh
and interestingly but he's in prison and
so they think he's got plausible
deniability says no one's gonna believe
someone who's in prison you know what
i'm saying so that's how they allow that
to happen uh but i do want to say
my my philosophy on this which is
humans are not protecting themselves
they're not protected
and so if you don't warn them you're
culpable
the next time somebody gets snatched and
eaten they're taken away or their child
and it's i'm more concerned about about
the children obviously than than
anything else
um you know that's it that's what and so
i you know that's my statement my
statement is you know i care about the
children and i want to protect the
children how can you protect a child you
must tell them you must tell their
parents what's happening what's really
going on on this planet and it's about
time we humans are able to protect
ourselves you know there's a lot of new
agers out there who want nothing but to
believe that there's ets definitely but
they're all hearts and flowers and good
guys right yes and this is this is such
a dangerous thing to put out there
because again you get humans that will
not be able to protect themselves and
also not understand
you know some people get the wrong idea
about camelot but i'm actually in favor
of the military
i know it sounds crazy but i actually
understand that we have a lot of
military that are putting their lines
lives on the line
yes in a daily basis
to protect humans that have absolutely
no idea that they're in danger
you're correct absolutely
and that's got to change yeah it's got
to change yeah
so um
you know i i and i i realize that people
have no idea what a brave man you are oh
you are i mean no i just i just wanted
the statement made on my interview here
that the courage that it takes to
actually do what you're doing right now
is phenomenal
really it is see i can get away with
this because i'm a journalist and i can
say anything and people say she's crazy
and just not listen
but someone with your stature you know
with your reputation and your
documentation and who you where you were
and
where you come from and all of that
this is substantial i don't think people
can ignore you i don't think they can
well i i sure hope they don't
and uh because frankly we need help yeah
we need everybody involved in this it's
it's not that's not a lie we need help
yes
absolutely
so uh at this moment what i want to do
is allow i'm going to get back to ai at
a certain point uh but i want michael to
ask any questions that he's burning
questions
okay okay that's fine that's fine
uh bill let's switch gears here but
we're still on the same topic of naval
programs
what was the primary mission of the 1946
naval program known as operation high
jump and what really happened
very
interesting uh
essentially
the war had world war ii had ended
uh we didn't win
uh
it's just sort of ended
and
the navy had been involved with
uh
the
the german facilities in antarctica and
the
draco reptilian facilities in caverns in
the antarctica
and this program was
well accepted
and then when paperclip took place
uh
this is where
many of the
uh german elite technical people
uh
left germany and went to their
facilities in antarctica
some of them went to russia some went to
england
and a large number of them
von braun and dr davis and their people
came to united states
so
there's an admiral called admiral nimitz
and
he got with
another
navy
admiral and they formed the largest
u.s navy
battle group
that we had ever had with the number of
ships and the number of facilities
personnel
there was over 400 airplanes involved
many of them were enormous
flying boats
pb3s
tbfs
which were all in this
battle group that went to
our south pole
to
clean up the mess down there
okay
uh
there there are large
tunnels underneath the water
uh
all around antarctica
where
the germans with very very large
truck submarines had been taking
facilities from germany
to uh antarctica the facilities had
antarctica
so
everybody said we we got paper clip here
in the united states
but you don't realize that
60 70 percent
even slave labor
personnel were put in these submarines
and taken back to an article through
these big tunnels to very large
facilities
so yes there were extraterrestrial ufos
there too and there were some production
german
ufos also
so when we
got within what you would call
battle range of uh antarctica
we had already flown
half of our aircraft
to the other side of an antarctica
with the facilities to enter
the mainland from the other side
we were going to come in from
essentially the pacific side
so
ufos came up out of the ocean
at both sides
they eliminated
every
aircraft including all of the
helicopters
flying boats
every aircraft we had were eliminated
in about 20 minutes
we had already started operations
landing type operations
and those ships and all those personnel
were sunk
they
ended up going to the bottom of the
ocean off of the coast
so admiral byrd and admiral nimitz
with the tail between their legs
took off back to united states as fast
as they could go
okay
and never went back
a little bit like
going to the moon
and never coming back
okay
so that
that
mission
obviously failed
to
do any damage
because they were supposed to go out
there
pick up a bunch of prisoners bring them
back and then blow up all the facilities
with this massive u.s navy battle group
and
we didn't do that
we came back and
we're not going to do that again
i think that basically says what the
mission was and what happened okay
and uh essentially
uh you haven't gone back again
since
and you probably never will
so you don't have the capability to
fight
the draco reptilian
technical capabilities
but there are people going there
yes there are military going there yes
and they have also a telescope there
that's supposed to be
specially stationed to look for the
incoming of planet x or nibiru or
whatever well
they have a facility there
like you have
your air force has
at the office air force base in omaha
nebraska
there's a picture
a drawing that i made in the front of
the book
where it shows the command center which
is not a command center
what it is it's a receiving
center for information in this part of
the galaxy right for us
and
then you have a separate command center
that the air force has uh in that big
mountain range but the one we're talking
about
is like
the
dracos have
that
the ss still uses
which is in antarctica and it's a
controlling area of incoming vehicles
that are not
german or primarily not
reptilian draco type facilities
they could be nordic and they don't want
the nordics there
so
that telescope facility
also is
has much greater capability than any
telescope that we have
and we just had in the last couple of
three months months
found out that there are two trillion
galaxies out there
wow
so we got better capability
as far as we concerned the ones that the
draco reptilian have in antarctica is
much bigger than that
wow okay um but how is it that the
humans are let they they do go down
there are you saying that the the the
ones that are allowed down there are
draco or reptilian or are you saying
that they allow them to come and go
because that's some kind of a treaty or
arrangement
well it's just a arrangement between
what was left of the ss
and
the people that are working in germany
on extraterrestrial vehicles they have
them in production still
still today today
and uh you went down there to clean that
up and you didn't win that battle
so there's still a communication with
even humans from here
to antarctica and you have
draco reptilian guys running your
governments right of every country on
your planet
government
there you go wow that's quite a
statement
does that answer your question
i'm sorry it's not what we want to hear
no okay not at all um okay everyone who
watches this is going to want me to ask
you about nibiru the return of nibiru
marduk you know who marduk is uh and you
know anu and and you know all of that
these are the head uh anunnaki um
is there do you think that there's are
you able to talk about a return of a
planet or is it a planetoid is it a you
know dyson sphere
it you know
you know i'm going to have to say
i'm not familiar enough other than the
title
with that operation
so uh
frankly i can't help okay
uh that's not my area all right
and i know about it but i i know of it
okay have you been told let me ask you
this
uh mark richards says we're about to
start earth changes in a in a sort of a
more major way
uh what i notice about earth changes is
a lot of times they're orchestrated and
they're created by you know by men or
dracos or reptilians
and uh that they're supposed to start
here at you know the beginning of 2017
and camelot was always told over that
i've been doing this for over 10 years
that 2017 was sort of the kickoff date
for a lot of or so-called earth changes
so have you heard that
uh
let me
let me talk a little bit about a
different
involvement of that all right okay
i had uh
uh
a cousin who is walder handen
uh
in our family here
who was three years older than me
about the same age as my brother
and
after
um
say 1933
time period
we were just kids
living in hollywood
walter's house was
he was the only child
his dad worked for the railroad and
didn't make much money
and so
they they rented a house in hollywood
which is what we did
nobody had any money
and uh
so we didn't have they didn't have any
landscaping in the front or the back of
the yard
so we kids
would in the afternoon
after school we'd get together and dig
holes in the dirt
in the backyard
and uh now you told this story on walter
no assad's
uh interview right yes so that's where
you're going with this so to save some
time
can we
like cut to the chase a little further
and ask people to watch walters to get
more of this but you can tell sketch it
out but don't go as in in much detail as
you did with walter okay
so
my cousin walter
uh
became a
geophysicist
astrophysicist
uh
was later
dean of texas m down in houston
one of the five top
astrophysics i guess on the in the
country
and
so
he
continued
to come to california
and he would stay with us we were living
in san fernando valley and i was working
at trw
and he was a consultant to trw
and uh
so
trw
had
astronomy and every other technical
field
uh going with many different sub group
sub laboratories working on it
and
so we were very very aware
of the problems
geologically with planet earth
and this gets into not just noah's
problem
where he had the flood
and he took care of it really quite well
but
there had been seven
floods since norris flood
and
one of those was really bad
but what
what takes place here and is a little
hard to visualize
way way back
the planet only had one continent
and as we know
those continents
well the planet was trying to fix its
uneven
rotation so the
the planet separated into different
continents
so what's
taking place since then
on every so many years
since that took place
uh
two major things take place well three
i'm sorry
uh
one is that every so many years
the planet has
literally dozens and dozens of volcanoes
all running at the same time from alaska
down the pacific coast to
the pacific coast of south america
and they have these continuous
uh
volcanoes all going
fouls up the atmosphere on the planet to
where a lot of people don't make it a
lot of fish don't like it now then
separately we have this situation where
we have earthquakes some of these are
really bad
then the third thing is the real problem
today as we're talking
the pacific plate
is climbing up on top of the american
plate which would be united states
and it's getting ready to push it down
into the magma
and this
this
the same thing will happen in south
america too
it'll climb up over south america and
push
the andes and everything on down into
the magma
so not too many people live through
these kinds of events
so essentially
uh
planet earth
is not
a really
choice place to live
uh
from the geology standpoint
we know
that there are
hundreds of million
galaxies out there we know that there's
millions and millions of stars in our
own galaxy and that there are millions
and millions
of other planets
which are
at supposedly the right location out
from the star not too close in not too
far out rotating
which produce
unbelievably
two and three and four times the size of
earth
total you
utilities uh
unbelievable
planets unbelievable atmosphere gorgeous
places to live
okay
so when the
people in the sacred think tank inside
of douglas were doing their studies
they came up with a thrust
to
review
the geology of the planet
confirm
the situations with the support of the
nordics
of
moving people off of the planet
to other stars planets
that the nordics are very very aware of
and
live their
utopian lives
okay
so when you look on page so and so
in that book that i wrote selected by
extraterrestrial you're going to see
a detailed drawing of a 17 kilometer
long
space transport
which came out of
one of the many designs
of extraterrestrial type vehicles
for
the us navy
okay
now you have to ask the question
what's the relationship of the
geological part of the planet
and
the fellas that were studying our
problem here which of course was
extraterrestrial but then it's also
geological
wow
uh and so these two things were put
together a long time ago
and yes you got nice suggestions
by your cousins
uh the nordics
look into this gentleman
ladies and gentlemen look at it
take a real good look at where you live
and what is the next date
for either one of the three problems
to hit us again okay oh my goodness
what is it we're overdue we're overdue
for that unquote
okay now my cousin
walter handen was in on everything that
i just said he was
the top
expert
to
the most advanced
astronomical
space think tank on the planet
okay
so is he still alive no he passed away
quite a few years ago
real nice guy
uh
he and ice
he brought he and i brought this stuff
back and forth just continually and
uh
for him to be consultant of the company
company that i'm working for you know
that was
really beautiful for me well
may i ask why like can the nordics help
somebody like that before they die or is
that a choice uh i i think are you sure
he died and didn't just go to another
okay
there again
a lot of people don't believe that they
are
they have many lives
okay
um some have more than others oh yeah
absolutely i believe we don't just
die here and that's it sure okay and
we've got a whole lot of other stuff we
got to do okay
and
so
uh trw again in their programming on
that particular subject
uh
actually told
john walter
uh almost the date that he was gonna
step out
and told him which of seven
different previous lights he was going
to relive
new versions of
and i thought that was kind of cool
right now i can't prove that i'm only
saying this is what he tells me
well it makes sense and i'm saying that
uh
i personally
my wife and i we on our family believes
that you know
this is only part time here
you've got a real job
out there sure and uh so there's got to
be that relationship yes
absolutely
okay very in fact you're going to have a
lot of fun
in another one of yours i know that
really you're gonna have a ball
okay
um
so
what i want to say here is
about artificial intelligence
because
when i dealt with mark
we know that the reptilian and the draco
threat and all of that yes and other et
races as well
which there are many
that are still you know negatively what
i would call negatively based um and and
maybe as big a threat as they are um the
chromaton uh comes to mind
the dragon moss and uh there's an
there's also some other very diabolical
creatures that even the draco and the
reptilians fear yes from
what i hear yes that's correct
absolutely all right
and um
what about artificial intelligence
isn't that a threat i mean i was told by
mark that there are some positive
artificial intelligence out there but
that we do have incoming
races of beings that are actually
artificially intelligent you know yeah
you can't even see him
there are some invisible ones yes he
said that i can't even see him
intelligence so you've you've dealt with
this yes yeah no question
uh and maybe not one or two maybe like
thousands okay with agendas
yes
and unfortunately again
both pro and con
white hats and black cats yes and some
of them are
are essentially
supporting
draco repetition type of
missions sure
and some of them are helping
nordic and the blue people okay blue
guys are really good people really
yeah
yes i agree with that
so no you know wait a minute
this little dissertation right here yes
has
been fun for me oh good uh
i'm like having fun excellent with you
hitting on me
you're
trying to bang me uh well you're trying
to hit me over the head and uh
really
you know so much about this subject it's
it's unreal
i just have to say
i have to say
coming from you that's amazing no i have
to say
uh you're beautiful you really know you
really know what's going on thank you
thank you thank you really well uh you
know who i have to think
so i'm not going to take all the credit
there uh but thank you that's lovely yes
to say thank you very much um
okay what are we on time
um what time do you try to get out of
here it's two o'clock it's two o'clock
okay
so we have kept you for a very long time
okay i can wrap this up here i think
maybe this is plenty of time for a
person
of your age even though you're not
always going to be the same
right
but um
so i i guess it you know cameras are
still rolling and i guess that we should
wrap this up and i want to say thank you
i love you love you love you and thank
you for your service to humanity okay
appreciate it and i mean that from the
bottom of my heart in the top of my
heart and michael thank you so much yeah
thank you michael a bit slighted but
your presence has been very well thank
you
and uh
and and we'll try to do this again
sometime okay you're willing okay um
well you did it
i was having fun come on it looked like
it
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you