well uh my name's niara and middle name
is tarela and i put that in because i'm
going to be dropping the eisley legally
at some point so the artilla is what
i'll be going by and that'll be how my
book is published
my story kind of uh starts
with
the air force
i was in the the united states air force
from 19
to 1983 when in april got out april both
those years
had four years of enlistment and
didn't really
realize the things that happened to me
until ten years later
i had a friend who was into ufos and
stuff like that so we were having great
times talking about ufos and
spirituality and all kinds of things
that i've been into all my life and uh
well can i i'm sorry can i interrupt
right here just to say uh to get a
little more of a description in terms of
what you did on your job yeah in the air
force okay yeah um i was a
surface-to-air missile anti-aircraft or
ra radar
artillery radar
uh
that was my career field okay okay um
and it's called auto track radar and so
you have the big radar that sweeps the
sky
like an air traffic control radar and
that radar would have radios in a site
and then there would be all these little
satellite radars out on the radar range
and the the big sweep the sky radar
would call out to these little auto
track sites and say we have incoming
aircraft at such and such degrees
elevation azimuth and range and then we
would take and point our little radar in
that part of the sky and try to pick
that
aircraft up and what we were doing out
on the
the tonepaw electronic warfare range was
training pilots to fly against radar to
increase their survivability during
wartime that way they could practice
using their electronic countermeasures
like dropping shaft or diving down in
the ground clutter which is a crafty way
to say you're hiding behind a hill
flying close to the ground and that's
what was my job
and so so you would interact with the
pilots uh communicating with them
telling them how whether they were
honored
we didn't have any interaction with the
pilots other than a system called if sif
if was iff identification friendfo
and then sif was special identification
feature
and so we would have transponders that
would send out a signal to that aircraft
and then the transponder would answer
back and we'd know
if for the exercise if it was considered
a friendly aircraft or a hostile
aircraft because it's like a big sky war
game is basically what it is incredible
now you were at tonopah was that here uh
in
arizona or no it was in tonopah nevada
and there's a town of tonopah and then
there was tonopah electronic warfare
range
and then while i was stationed at nellis
they actually changed the designation to
electronic combat range and there were
two radar ranges one was tonopah one was
talicia peak
okay and how how many years were you
there
i was there for about a year
i only worked on the range for
i would say under a year
and where were you previously previously
i went through lackland air force base
for boot camp and then i was at keesler
air force base for technical training
school in biloxi mississippi and then my
first duty station was nellis air force
base
and uh the rain the radar range uh unit
that was there okay and then where did
you go after that
um after i was done at nellis i was
stationed at gila bend air force
auxiliary field down here in arizona
near gila bend arizona
and i was there for about a year and
then after that i was stationed at
mountain home air force base in idaho
for the last year of my tour of service
i see and so your total time in the air
force was four years four years but a
lot of it was taken up with technical
training uh training school took uh
quite a bit of time to be trained in
electronics field okay and um
let me see how old were you
approximately when you did this
um
24 25 years old so so you were quite a
bit younger than you are now this this
is in your past yes it was in 1980
that the the situation we're going to be
talking about happened
okay but when you did the when you were
in the air force was also 1980 yes
from 1979 to 1983.
okay so
so the situation you're talking about
happened at the same time that you were
actually doing this job yes and you were
in your early twenties
very interesting okay uh so
after you left the air force just
because people will be curious
what was your line of work after that
well i went to work for government
contractors um
this is kind of an interesting part of
the story as well i went to work for eg
g
special projects
in their technical resources
branch of their company
and
i am going to observe my security
clearance about that work i'll just say
where i worked
i didn't work on anything remarkable
i'll say that
nothing to be
concerned about there but um
it does kind of in hindsight raise my
eyebrows a little bit that i work for eg
g after the military and then i worked
for another
rather
conspicuous contractor
science applications international
corporation i also worked for them
s-a-i-c fcic
okay
yeah very interesting uh
let me let me ask you this when you were
doing any of this work uh on the ranges
so to speak did you ever see a ufo
yeah that's kind of what i was getting
to in the beginning because i didn't
really remember too much i just kind of
was living my life and it was kind of a
crazy young life you know when you're
young you do crazy stuff
get married and have you know anyway so
about 10 years after i got out of the
military it was like 1993-94
i was out of the military i was divorced
i was single again and i was talking to
my best friend about the ufos
and he noticed that when i talked i
mentioned my military time that i kind
of skated away from the topic really
quickly and he thought well this is
really weird she talks openly about so
much stuff why does she not tell me
anything about her military time
and so he sat me down one afternoon and
he says i want you to tell me about your
military time from beginning then i said
oh no problem yeah i would lackland air
force base for boot camp six weeks
keesler air force base for technical
training school and then i was stationed
at nellis air force base and i worked at
tonopah and it was like
i don't remember anything about working
at tonopah i can tell you i work there
i can't remember co-workers i can't
remember the work site i can't remember
anything
no details whatsoever all i could do was
say i worked at tonopah and i knew that
i worked there
for
three three and a half
possibly four months
and with this realization came a wave of
nausea
and i just felt really scared i was like
you know i don't remember anything
and this is weird because i have a
really good working memory
and i was really disturbed and i think
it was either a year or within the year
of
discovering this three months of missing
time at least three months
that i ran into bud hopkins at the ufo
not the ufo the whole life expo in las
vegas nevada in 1994
and i went to his lecture and listened
and at the end of it i raised my hand
and i said
i have this strange dream from childhood
and i have this three months of missing
time from the military and a few other
anomalous strange experiences and he
said talk to me afterwards
so i did talk with him afterwards and
explain some of these strange anomalies
and he said would you like me to do a
hypnosis session with you this evening
and i said yes i would i really want
some answers
and so we did a hypnosis section i'm
sorry i'm going to stop you wednesday
one more time and i'm sorry for that
um
can you tell me when were you doing this
when were you
realizing
like i understand that the original
experience happened in over 1980s early
80s yeah um
but when were you realizing this you had
this discussion with your friend and
then you saw bus i realized it in in
1994 94 and so it was 94 that you also
got regress
okay
okay go ahead and so when i got
regressed bud said i want you to go to a
time that seems significant to you
in january of 1980 when you were in the
air force and immediately i found myself
standing on the deck of the radar van
because radar vans are like the back of
a semi like the trailer and then it's
filled with electronic equipment and
then there's a deck so that you can kind
of climb up to it and down with stairs i
was standing on the deck of the radar
van it was night i was terrified and
there were saucers in the sky
there were like a lot of them you know i
would say at least nine maybe more but
my attention was riveted on the one that
was closest because i could hear sound
coming from it and i could see it quite
well i mean there wasn't a lot of detail
on it
i was seeing the bottom of it more than
the top it was like a translucent metal
skin on the bottom
it had a circular feature in the center
there was a sound coming from it like
speakers at a rock concert uh when their
quad when known music is coming through
and they're just kind of sitting there
humming and maybe there's a little
crackle
that's a very good description yeah and
i was looking at this thing
and any wonder at seeing such a craft
was completely blotted out by just how
terrified i was feeling were you with
other people i was with two other people
that had been running the radar with me
that night and we were given fatigues
aware with no rank insignia no name tags
we were forbidden to speak to each other
beyond what was necessary to run the
test
was that
customary no
no not at all they were really
they had us very tightly under control
and there were guns involved i found out
in a later hypnosis session
some years later when i went back and
looked at this again that i was hauled
out of my motel room in the middle of
the night
at gunpoint
so it's no wonder i was terrified out
there
and i only had a secret security
clearance and my question was you know
because i was familiar with
security classifications and the
hierarchy of them and i'm thinking why
on earth am i seeing something that has
to be
incredibly highly classified and i only
have a secret security clearance and
that in itself terrified me okay and now
when you said there are saucers in the
sky can you describe how many and the
size of them and were they all identical
in the way they were shaped and so on
they all looked very similar i wouldn't
say they were identical
but they all looked very similar and
again i was terrified and i was really
just looking at the one closest were
they all the same size
that was hard to determine because some
of they were varying distances were they
moving or were they hovering they were
hovering all of them they were hovering
and some of them were kind of you know
tipping a little
um but they were hovering and there was
a little motion i mean they're tipping
and then maybe a little bit of this and
but they were mostly all hovering
okay and they were in a in in miles i i
don't know
would you say sort of a valley or
yeah they were kind of in the valley i
would say that they were covering an
area
maybe
10 12 miles square
around the radio and just hovering yes
and and size wise each saucer would be a
approximately is there any way to for
you to i'm not really good with those
kind of dimensions yeah but i would
guess 30 to 50 feet in diameter would
that was just a guess
okay so
that's not massive right no okay
no okay so go on with your story
so i'm looking at these things i'm
scared i'm not talking to the two people
on either side of me
there are some people talking inside the
radar van discussing i think the results
of the test but i couldn't hear really
what they were saying i could just hear
voices
a period of time went by they came out
of the radar van and we were put me and
the other two people
were put on a bus
like an old school bus
painted air force blue and the windows
were painted over
and they took us by the bus to
what i think was area 51.
people like to make that leap that it
was area 51 but i don't know because the
windows were painted over i guess area
51 because how many miles were you from
area 51 to your knowledge being in
tonopah if it was area 51
it would have been quite a few miles
okay 100
50 to 75 maybe okay
uh depending on you know the location of
the radar site
did the appropriate amount of time pass
or did did you seem to get there faster
than was appropriate well when you're
scared time goes pretty slow
so
i'm not sure okay i'm not really sure i
did hear something recently
william was interviewed by
stephen greer
and they made an agreement that
his interview would not be released
with the regular disclosure project that
it had to wait for release until after
he had passed away well william pollock
passed away uh in the past year and that
interview is now up on youtube with
stephen greer william
brought out the fact that there was an
underground facility at tonopah on the
tonopah range
so it's possible that i could have been
taken there too
so it's
you know so but you were taken in a van
at that point and in a bus yeah in an
old and a bus okay and the other people
were in the bus with you or not there
were quite a few people in the bus with
um i would say 15 possibly
it was really dark so it was hard to
tell and and we were
being
controlled
so you know you just got on the bus and
sat down and did something to make sure
you didn't get shot
and uh and do you remember do you did
you know the people in the bus
um
were these co-workers i don't recall
that i know them i probably did know
some of them but i was just doing
exactly what i was told because my life
was under threat as far as i could tell
okay so let's just sit there and look
straight ahead and keep quiet
and
when we got to our destination
we were taken off the bus and we were
taken to a medical facility
sat in a in a fairly large square room
and all of us were sat in these chairs
there were lights coming in from a
hallway behind where we were seated
kind of partially illuminating the room
but they kept the lights off in that
room
and then one by one they came and got
each one of us or called our name and
then we went into a little room that was
adjacent to the main waiting room
when it was my turn to go in there there
was an armed security guard in there
standing at parade rest
and i was told to lay down fully clothed
on a stainless steel examining table
so i did that again i had to wait
scared to death and finally a guy in a
white lab coat came in walked past the
security guard at the foot of the table
up around the right side of the table
and he said stay calm in a deadpan voice
three times
and when he got up beside the right side
of my head
kind of like in one smooth move he'd had
a hypodermic needle kind of hidden in
his hand in the sleeve of his lab coat
came up one smooth move and injected me
in the right side of the neck
and i immediately my body just
immediately went into trauma
that was about the end of what i looked
at
in the session with bud hopkins but i
did pick it up so i can continue with
what happened because i did pick it up
later in the other hypnosis session with
gloria hawker in 2003.
okay um so
but but just for the benefit of being
with bud hopkins because everyone will
know that name and certainly what what
happened with him at you you revealed
this much he clearly saw that there was
more to come i assume he did
it's just i was so tense and so
i was having such a difficult time under
hypnosis i was having just an incredible
headache
came up with looking at this data
and bud kept giving me suggestions to
try to make it go away but it's it
didn't really it would diminish and it
would just come back in force and the
headache was just splitting and the
headache lasted three days after the
session
and i have to wonder if that was
programmed in should i should she ever
start remember make her have a headache
you know or something i don't know yeah
but it so uh what how did you part with
bud at that point we parted on really
good terms i was very grateful to him
for helping shed some light into this
area
and
i had a hard time accepting it at first
because it was so incredibly cruel
and i just wasn't prepared for that i
thought how does this happen in the
united states of america land of the
free and home of the brave
and my whole idea of the country i lived
in and had gone in the military to serve
just started going up in smoke
at that point so i started going to all
the lectures i could attend all the
contact e groups and abductee groups and
anybody that had anything going on in
las vegas there fortunately was quite a
bit of that
and i went everywhere i could and i met
a woman named misha johnston
um who is really a good friend of
melinda leslie and i finally reconnected
with her and she connected me with all
kinds of people
james barclay
and some other people that had had
similar experiences she told me about
mill abs because
i had never heard of millabs up until
that having the hypnosis
i'd never heard of such things
and so i was really disturbed and i so i
kept going around checking out all this
information and to my horror i found
more corroborating data than not
and so but at that point did you get
you met with another person a regression
hypnosis it was it took me years to get
to get to the next to the point where i
could even go under hypnosis again and
look at what else
because it was really difficult i was it
was like
being handed a case of instant
post-traumatic stress disorder
to deal with it and there was one group
i have to mention this because it was
just made my blood blood run cold one
group i went to in las vegas where we
sat in a circle and everybody was
sharing about their experiences and then
it came to my experience and i didn't
want to give any details of my
experience because i was hoping to hear
other details that might confirm
my own
and so i said well what happened to me
is i i took i was taken out in the
middle of the desert to test radar on
ufos
and then i think they took me to area 51
and did a mind wipe procedure on me
and a guy across the room looked at me
and he said
did they stick you in the side of the
neck with a needle too
and that was exactly what had happened
and i was so terrified i just wanted the
group to end and get in my car and drive
away
i just now i wish i'd talked to the man
but back then it was like more than i
could handle it was just my blood ran
cold there was that grave
someone walking on your grave feeling
sinking in quicksand feeling
wow yeah okay um so
so now several years how many years
passed before you went into
uh regression hypnosis again and got
more of the story yeah nine years nine
years nine years oh my uh-huh because i
it was like chasing around trying to
chase shadows you know um
i met a lot of experiencers
who are all trying to put their pieces
together and make a coherent picture and
i certainly sympathize with that but my
life up to that point had been about
spirituality and meditation and yoga and
health food and
i really wanted i didn't want to be
obsessed with the ufo field and i could
see it coming
and i just thought you know this is
crazy the et's aren't talking and they
have
major pieces
and the government's not talking and
they have major pieces and i just
thought the heck with it all i'm just
going to go back to my meditation and
i'm going to wait till dan rather
announces on the evening news that we
have contact or you know this comes out
somewhere
you know i just thought i'm out of it
i'm not going to let this rule my life
but
the essence of a spiritual path is to
really know yourself i'm sure you know
that from what i know of you on project
camelot
and so that like every in my meditation
practice and in my life i'd keep bumping
up against this little black box in the
back of my mind where i tucked away all
that stuff and
then finally when uh
when bush became president when the
supreme court handed him the presidency
and stop the recount
i was really angry about that and
more aggravated ptsd with what happened
under the bush administration
i was sitting and meditating
one the morning after we knew he was
going to be president and i was doing
this and then my my spirit guides which
i definitely have them
they just this voice just echoed in my
head and they said
bush is exactly the right man in the
right place at the right time because
he's president a lot of people are going
to wake up
and that they were absolutely right
he was a catalyst for awakening
so and then a negative catalyst
and i just and at that point because um
he initiated the patriot act and i was
afraid he was going to try to undermine
all of our constitutional rights and
actually take them away my ptsd got
worse it got so much worse
that i had i had to seek some kind of
therapeutic help to deal with the ptsd
so i opened back up to looking at the
experiences but instead of chasing
around trying to find answers i went
through a therapeutic process to try to
heal the post-traumatic stress and deal
with the emotional fallout of the
experiences okay once i calmed once i
began to calm that down a little bit
then i was ready to look more and find
out more of what happened
so at this point you you did go into uh
to see a regressionist yeah i saw gloria
hawker who has her own book she wrote
morning glory diary of an alien abductee
she was also associated with bud hopkins
and i met her at the aztec ufo symposium
in i think what was it 2000
2003
and i liked her and she seemed
trustworthy and so i i wanted to have
more work done with her okay
and
so kind of picking up where i had the
injection and went into shock when i
looked at the situation with her
um that's when i found out i had been
hauled out of the motel room that night
at gunpoint and that's explained the
level of terror i felt in the session
with bud
and then also after the injection
happened
suddenly there were two security guards
on either side of me and they were
pulling me off the table
and we went out a different doorway than
the one i had entered that little
examining room and we went down a very
very long staircase
very long and i assume underground
or further underground
and uh at the bottom of the staircase
there was a little room and i was tossed
in that room and the door was shut
after me it was like just bare walls
like with a light bulb up in one corner
and there and i noticed briefly in in my
shock that i was going through i noticed
there was like a mirror
that was like a one-way mirror a mirror
on my side and window on the other and i
thought they're gonna watch me go
through this
you know and so i went through the
effects of the injection and i don't
know how to explain it it didn't seem to
hurt i don't remember pain
but i do remember feeling like i was
going to dissolve at the molecular level
and and i was afraid of this feeling and
so i laid on the floor and i just curled
up in a ball and i screamed
and i don't know how long
i just know a certain amount of time
passed and the effect of the injection
seemed to subside and i was laying there
exhausted on the floor
and then the two security guards came in
and took me out
and
there were eight people that had been
watching sitting in chairs
and both security guards sexually
assaulted me while these eight people
watched
and uh
i just left my body you know i didn't
know what else to do there was nothing i
could do
there was a fraction of my attention on
the guns in the room and i thought if
one of these
so-and-so's i'll just say be nice
drops their guard for one second and i
get a hold of one of these guns
everybody in this room is going to have
their brain splattered on the wall
because i was so angry about what was
happening i was equal measure of rage
and terror okay but i didn't get that
opportunity so i just like checked out
you know whatever happened happened i
checked out
you know and just
so how did it how did it end how did you
you know
do you remember or was that part of the
recall at that point do you remember
going back up the stairs for example i
don't remember going back up the stairs
i just remember
the the rapes happening and um
then it seemed like we moved to a
different
uh
a different scenario
uh that happened during that similar
time and uh okay when you see a
different scenario did you so um
are you saying that uh because i know
that you mentioned something to me that
something happened again at a later date
so yeah this incident that we say you
dragged out of your hotel room ended in
this way
somehow we don't know
you know that you're getting back on the
bus and so forth you didn't kind of go
over that but
how did you get to the next incident or
when did the nx incident happen in your
understanding
um
it's hard to explain because the
when you're under hypnosis you
re-experience
sure and so i was like in the in this
recliner being
hypnotically regressed so did she bring
you out at all to calm you down
she didn't really bring me out she just
said let's move on to something else and
i have the transcript in my book sure
and i apologize because i'm this is
really hard to even recall
even listening to my tr reading my
transcripts and even listening
you know there's just something in my
mind a woman under sexual assault you
just don't even want to think about it i
understand it's traumatic and uh
and you were quite young you were like
24 or something 25 i was 25 when that
happened okay but can we move to the
next um incident so how did what
happened at that point did you go back
to work to your knowledge
um yeah i did go back to work with no
memory uh assuming no memory because it
didn't so now i remember what happened
was they took me out of that situation
and they took me back to my hotel room
but before they took me back to my motel
room they actually injected me with
something to knock me out okay so it
wasn't the injection that they locked me
in the room to watch but it was another
drug that they used to to just knock me
out so that when i woke up i would be in
my motel room okay and uh may have been
something also
to
mess with my memory
so there was another ejection and then i
just woke up in my motel room probably
tired wondering why i was tired and then
getting up to go to work again
and
there were other things
probably the most remarkable thing was
the memory of being on the moon for a
week
so can you
explain how that might have happened
yeah
okay when i worked at the tone of
electronic warfare range i was stationed
at nellis and then we would be put on a
bus and taken up to tonopah this is like
a regular greyhound sort of bus
and we would it's four hour drive up
there and then we would be
put up in hotels they had the air force
had contracts with the hotels to put up
the air force personnel
so we would stay there one week and then
we'd be down in vegas for a week and
then the following every other week we
would be working up at tonopah and then
there would be another crew on the other
rotation
and so uh that moon week um i was up at
tonopah
and they took me out of the motel room
in the middle of the night and put me on
this one of the saucers
with couple other guys
and took us there to the moon and
the people at the test site or i'm sorry
at the tonopah
range were told that i got sick and was
put on a bus and sent back down to vegas
and the people at las vegas
all thought that i was doing my work up
at the site so nobody missed me for the
whole week
okay so you went how did the i mean do
you recall uh you know
the flight in the saucer let's say i
recall some of it it was very hard to
really get a sense of time for some
reason 30 minutes 20 or 30 minutes
strike stays in there
but it was a very strange space to be in
to try to assess how much time was
passing and can you describe the inside
of the saucer at all yeah it was um
it was circular there was a fairly large
beam in the center and around the center
there were
some chairs
that i assumed were for important people
i was with two people men and we were
told to lay down kind of like cargo on
the floor
and so we laid down on the floor we were
given a suit to wear
that was silvery and when you put it on
you couldn't put it on you had to strip
naked and put it on um it would vacuum
itself like onto your body
so it would just you put it on and it
would just kind of
vacuum pack itself onto you and there
were silver boots and gloves and
everything that went with it
and so we put the the stuff on and the
the craft was landed it had landing gear
and there was a ladder that we had to
climb to go in uh the underneath part
and then some people came in and sat in
the chairs and
i think the pilot
or at least somebody was there there was
like a reptilian on there and i think
the reptilian may have been piloting the
craft
can you describe him physically
he was really tall really muscular
he had kind of the yellow eyes with uh
slit pupils
and he was standing behind the beam out
of sight but he moved out from behind
the beam and we could see him
and it kind of took my breath away it
was such a frightening thing to look at
and i only saw him for like half a
minute and then he moved back behind the
beam okay was he humanoid did he have a
tail humanoid
there was a tail
were there any grays i mean you haven't
really described any grace in any of
this experience actually when the rapes
were happening there was a gray with one
of the the beans or one of the people
watching was uh gray
okay was he in one of the eight chairs
or he was in one of the chairs yes
okay
yeah
was he a short gray or a tall gray he
was a tall gray
okay um can you describe him metal
um
pretty much the classic gray features
had a little bit of an aged appearance
i would say you know kind of gaunt
looking
big eyes big eyes definitely big eyes
and um because i'm a
an experiencer of
gray abductions in childhood and through
adulthood also
i i might be sensitive to their
telepathy because when i was going
through those experiences it seemed like
i heard him in my head
and he was kind of thinking
why would these people do this to one of
their own people
you know he was like kind of puzzled
because obviously i was in distress and
he thought this is a human being and
these are human beings doing this to her
and i think that he was puzzled okay by
that
um
okay
well since we kind of go back into the
room with the people the eight people uh
were they male or female
they seemed all male
okay
now to fast forward to this
going to the moon so you go in the craft
you go to what you
why did you think it was the moon did
someone tell you it was the moon yeah
they told us it was the moon uh there
was one blonde security guard that
seemed in charge of my debriefings you
know which meant more sexual assault and
injections and whatever what does that
mean
i mean you just kind of put that all
together
suddenly you have a blonde security
guard meaning a tall blonde
um no nothing like an orange nothing
like a nordic no e.t it was a human a
human yeah obligatory a sociopathic
human because he didn't seem to have any
conscience about what he did to me at
all a guy a guy okay um so was he an
officer
no i don't think he was an officer i
think he was private contractor
i don't think he was regular did he wear
a uniform yeah he wore desert camouflage
fatigues
on the saucer
no he didn't go on the sausage he just
brought me to the saucer
and he smirked at me and said i'll see
you when you get back sweetheart
have fun on the moon
and
then just told me go up the ladder and
lay on the floor
okay so the person you laid on the floor
with was another person who was being
taken to them and that was a guy yeah
there were two guys two guys
did you know them
um
one of them yes i did appear to know
but i can't really say his name or but i
mean even now do you remember who they
are
um
i remember the one
because i recognized him
he was one of the people that worked
with me out there
okay
but i can't really
go into anything more than that because
he could be walking around without his
memory back
and i can't he that has to be his choice
if he has
any rattles that he needs to explore
that has to be his choice sure so i have
to leave him out of that okay so what
happened when you went to the moon did
you see the moon you know did you see
the external
i didn't see much of anything because i
was laying on the floor and
i couldn't really see a window
i saw a little bit of a window i saw a
space out there with stars but i didn't
really see much until we
got to the moon and disembarked
and then what did you see
um
oddly enough it's kind of you know like
a military base um
maybe not as sophisticated as bases on
earth um but the same ugly buildings i
thought why do they put the same ugly
buildings on there that they do on
the ground so you saw some buildings
very utilitarian yeah okay did you and
um
did you see for example um well saucers
don't really need a runway per se but
did you see
uh runway type yeah there was like big
landing areas i would say that and
we were taken off and then we were
conducted to these uh buildings
and um
my memory isn't all that great because i
kind of moved forward in the hypnosis to
other things
i was worked very hard there
there was a lot more sexual abuse
what do you mean you were worked hard
what
way where you worked it's it's one of
the things i've learned about mind
control procedures
if you keep someone exhausted you don't
feed them well don't allow them in their
sleep deprived
it helps with what they're trying to do
to keep you from remembering too much
so i worked in some electronics
equipment not radar it was a different
kind of electronics but they thought
that my radar skill would translate over
to using this other equipment
and it seemed like excavation equipment
of some kind but ultra modern
and
it used electromagnetism to excavate
areas
with big magnetic plates electromagnetic
plates
and so they were actually still building
parts of the base
so the idea was that you were brought to
the moon to do this work
yeah okay and you worked there for a
week
yeah and then there was a lot of just
lifting and hauling you know like
stacking boxes here and moving stuff
here and
just you know kind of manual labor type
of stuff
really and
okay
uh and that just how many people were
doing this kind of work
um there were several there weren't too
many people doing it um
didn't seem like there was crowds of
people up there
um
quite a few but
but working with you were you working
with the two people that you came they
had me working by myself a lot
they didn't really want me
to work with other people because i
might be tempted to talk to them
so they kept me pretty isolated
okay and um
do you remember the beings that were on
the moon that were in this working in
this that you were working around or i
saw i saw only human beings only human
beings i saw only human beings do you
happen to know were you on the dark side
of the light side of the moon
i would guess the dark side but that's
only a guess
okay
and
then at night i wasn't allowed to sleep
and again i was kind of passed around
for more sex stuff
okay so do you have memories of your
reaction or did you ever misbehave or
yell or try to get away or
anything like that um
i was scared it was kind of like dream
walking
in a sense it was like
well i know this stuff is going to
happen i don't know what i can do about
it
i have a little girl to go back home to
that i need to make sure that i'm okay
so that i go back home to my daughter
and
so i was pretty compliant
you know i just didn't want to do
anything that would get me killed in the
in the
okay in the hypnosis where you're
revisiting this experience did you say
you didn't stay you didn't dwell a long
time on this
uh no we didn't dwell a long time on it
again it was really it was obviously
really upsetting
and uh
touched on the experience and then
gloria moved me into some other area
okay and since then have you revisited
it with any other regression
i looked at it from a very different
perspective with mary rodwell last year
and um
sorry
sometimes it catches up with me um
i looked at it with mary rodwell last
year from an entirely different
perspective do you want to share that
now or do you want to move on to
something else okay i can share that now
because it really does fit i
just briefly i did the session with mary
broadwell because
as i've peeled away the layers and
processed through this whole thing i've
kind of discovered
that
i may be like one of those wanderers
that was born here to have specific
experiences
and to
do certain things and it's not something
i leaped at immediately
but as i've peeled the layers away it's
become kind of evident
that something like that may be going on
so when i looked with mary rodwell
among other things that happened the
guide that was with me in the mary
rodwell regression
said we're going to return to the moon
of the past because there's something
you need to see there
and i said i don't really want to go
near that place again
he said we need to go and you need to
see this it'll be okay so we went there
and i saw an exchange
that was happening between one of my
superior officers
and an extraterrestrial that was on the
moon because there's extra i saw that
there very clearly that there are
extraterrestrial bases on the other side
of the moon as well okay when you see
extraterrestrial can you describe the
kind of e.t you're talking about it was
a rather human-looking et but very tall
and
slender and uh would it be the typical
nordic or not
i wouldn't say a typical nordic no more
slender than that
and uh
kind of
ethereal looking
you know but definitely having a
physical form okay
and uh so i saw this exchange between
the et
this et
and the superior officer and the et was
saying to the superior officer you have
no idea who you have there do you
realize that everything you're doing to
her gets reported back to her people
you know so
it was
just an interesting thing and it kind of
goes along with uh
this feeling of contact that i've had
now for the past several years that just
tugs at the edge of my consciousness and
i try to go to sleep and tell myself i'm
going to remember what happens when i'm
asleep
but i haven't been too successful at
that i brought back one phrase one time
and the phrase i woke up with was
and then you will see a fully
representational earth
because i feel like i attend a kind of
cosmic university out there
and i learn things that i'll know at the
right time down here but that was the
only phrase i was ever able to bring
back from
those nights okay but when this superior
officer
was was the one who was this the one
talking the e.t was talking or the
superior officer was talking the e.t was
talking to the superior officers saying
that to her people but but who did she
who did the e.t mean by her people
well if we can believe the session with
mary rodwell and i do
um
i'm part of a fifth dimensional
extraterrestrial race that's monitoring
what's going on on the planet so you
might have allowed these things to
happen to you so that you could
report i've come to feel that i had a
soul contract before being born in this
lifetime but i came here to have these
experiences
and it served multiple purposes it
helped me to resolve some karma from
other birth walks i've had and uh i took
this particular one on kind of like
uh
an undercover person you know my people
are out there they're monitoring what's
going on they're very benevolent people
and they want the best for earth and in
its people and its life forms
and so they thought you know these
people are really struggling down here
we need to know what it's like from the
inside
so
we would like you to go do this
that way you can resolve your other
karma and you can provide a service
and one of the other things i remembered
from the et from the experience with
mary
was that
i i asked full travel to their ship at
night
and when i'm asleep and i would say at
least once a week and sometimes two and
three times a week
and i go into a chamber there that's
like a glass tube
and i'm in there in my astral form and
they turn this they turn this chamber on
and sound and light waves go through it
and they pass through my astral body
and then all the information that my exp
of my experience goes into their
database someplace sure and then they
can actually plug into it and
re-experience what i experience here and
and understanding and then they have a
better understanding of what it's like
down here for us that are on the planet
okay so yeah so that was part of that is
very interesting
as i've moved through the process of
healing from this the past
you know six or seven years
and now i'm writing my book
um it's very clear about this
extraterrestrial heritage you know
before this lifetime is it's real really
been quite a coherent thread through my
life i didn't realize until i started
writing the book just how strong a
thread that is
and so the awakening part of my journey
it's been like a shamanic process
where
i have
gone through this dismemberment
and kind of been smelted and then have
put myself back together with more space
between the pieces
to
handle a larger paradigm of reality
and now there's all this insight and all
this awakening and if there's one really
important thing about my whole journey
it's been moving beyond the fear
because fear locks down our actual
biology it locks down our consciousness
and as i have moved beyond the fear and
stepped out to speak publicly and not
let fear control me anymore it's like my
consciousness is lighting up like a
christmas tree and my psychic abilities
are expanding exponentially all the time
and i just and i and i have learned
because of my meditation practice and my
body centered therapy techniques
how to really tune into the body it's
like a sending receiving antenna among
other things and so when the book is
done i really want to pass on
this kind of sensitized learning so that
other people can turn on their
consciousness and move beyond fear
because i think with more humanity with
an awakened consciousness we can take
control of this planet and make it the
way we want it so that's my hope is to
really reach out to people and help them
awaken help them put fear behind them
forever not just plaster over it with
positive affirmations but root it out
see it and just really be empowered
that's what i want for everybody okay
yeah that's lovely thanks um miara could
you tell me uh just offhand if you don't
mind if you know sure uh what the beings
that you feel the is your
race of etfs what they're like what do
they look like are they humanoid do you
know when i saw them on the ship it was
like lights moving around with a
suggestion of a humanoid form in them
they were brilliant you know there was
like white gold light everywhere and
there would be a golden light where they
were for you know moving around and when
this commander i don't know what else to
call him he's more like a father or an
older brother more than a commander but
commander he was like in charge
he moved towards me and he was like
glided towards me it wasn't like walking
he was gliding towards me
and i could see his form and as he got
close i could see a human face in where
the the face should be it was just the
most incredibly loving
being i've ever
seen you know he was just amazing
i could feel how much he loved me and
communicating with him
i would think a question and before i
even got the question finished he had an
answer
so um
it was you know a telepathic tell
empathic kind of exchange
that's very nice yeah uh okay well miara
because we have limited time and and
you've been very gracious and i
apologize for having you relive some of
these experiences as you told them
because obviously they still come back
to you but um it's clear that that you
are on a completely different plane in
regard to all of this
and um and i think that that facilitates
you coming forward and bringing
something more
uh
some understanding in a very very large
sense of that word
to the picture for people um so i want
to thank you very much from project
camelot and i want to thank you for your
service to humanity okay thank you very
much i'm very grateful and very
appreciative that you've given me
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