one of the examples that he talked to me
about was in colorado
where he went down into granite and so
they're they're blasting down into
granite and suddenly they came to a
cavity that shouldn't have been there
so they went down to explore what was
going on what this cavity was
and it turned out to have
in it
a ufo
and an alien body
now this had occurred so long ago that
there was actually like quartz that had
formed over the ship
and the alien's body
this was the first clue that he had that
aliens have been here
living in the earth
for probably millions of years
when we think about being invaded by
aliens forget it they're already here
and they have been here they've been a
part of our life
since the beginning
the second time you told me
oh the second time he told me about the
alien contact was
through the deep underground mountain
bases with adults
new mexico right yeah
right the fire fight and he he told me
about that how the men
came down and to me the number was like
21 people
originally went down he again they're
blasting
holes and suddenly
they discover that there's a cavern
already there so they go down and
explore what's going on there
and they find
loser
aliens dracos is what he would call them
so they're big tall
reptilian looking
yeah they derive one of their happy
drugs from us so when they frighten us
and we get the adrenaline going yeah
that's like a drug to them but then they
eat our blood
yeah they eat it yeah they want our
blood and they they eat our body parts
there was just
that
certain one
well
it sounded like
the reptilian ones specifically
were doing this
and the grays helped them get people so
the grays help abduct
people usually children you know there's
a million children that disappear every
day i mean every year in the united
states
a million every year
but we we only hear about a couple of
he said there were seven types of aliens
and out of those two were
friendly
that actually tried to help us
one of them looks very similar to us
they
they're a little larger
did he say what they were called
he said they were from the pleiades
the aliens that were from the pleiades
looked more like us and were more
friendly to us
we know that reptilians and and draco uh
you know the blood sacrifices the whole
luciferian thing the the kids being
killed and eaten i mean that humans have
been eaten and taken off planet et
cetera et cetera and used for slaves in
other colonies etc i hate to say that
but that's far worse than what you've
just said
yes
yes far worse
and
that
the whole blood
situation
uh is unbelievable and um right i don't
know how we say that to the public
i i don't know how
uh
to me
if we get into that and i know all about
it okay all right far more than
you know sure
when we get into that
if we release it
70 80 of everybody that listens to your
program is it going to say
you're smoking pot i don't believe that
and i don't believe anything you people
talk about on extraterrestrial and it's
going to kill
what
disclosure is trying to do that's my
opinion
is starting to be exposed everywhere
you know that much is coming oh yeah
but
you know the part that i don't want to
talk about i hear you okay yeah i'm it
saying as much as you said right now is
actually great
okay you know what i mean yes because
you basically are
anyone who's hearing everything else you
say is going to have to come to home
with this and if they want to know more
it's out there it's more and more it's
out there yeah now uh i'm not going to
speak for bob
but bob wood dr wood who's
worked with me on the my book okay he's
he's a genius
if we were in the conference room and we
were talking and it was a big table
there
he would have his fist like this and he
would slam that table i want every g.d
thing
exposed i want it all out
that's lovely to hear and i have to say
i'm having a hard time disagreeing with
him but
we can do another interview on that
subject so that you know this one it
goes out because i know you really want
this information out you want people to
start to wake up and we don't want to
turn them off to any we don't went you
just said it we don't want them to be
turned off we don't want them to not
believe what's being said okay and this
yeah and some
we can get into it partially but i'm
saying
uh i personally don't want to be
involved in doing what bob wants to do
it's too heavy i think it's gonna i
think it's gonna
really hurt
getting more people to get involved in
this subject okay they're gonna say
the bill tompkins is smoking pot i don't
believe one day i'm worried i don't want
to hear about any of this
okay i don't want to hear about it
my my philosophy on this which is
humans are not protecting themselves
they're not protected
and so if you don't warn them you're
culpable
the next time somebody gets snatched and
eaten they're taken away or their child
and this i'm more concerned about about
the children obviously than than
anything else
um you know that's it well that's what
and so i you know that's my statement my
statement is you know i care about the
children and i want to protect the
children how can you protect a child you
must tell them you must tell their
parents what's happening what's really
going on on this planet and it's about
time we humans are able to protect
ourselves you know there's a lot of new
agers out there who want nothing but to
believe that there's et's definitely but
they're all hearts and flowers and good
guys
yes and this is this is such a dangerous
thing to put out there because again you
get humans that will not be able to
protect themselves and also not
understand
you know some people get the wrong idea
about camelot but i'm actually in favor
of the military
um i know it sounds crazy but i actually
understand that we have a lot of
military that are putting their lines
lives on the line yes in a daily basis
to protect humans that have absolutely
no idea that they're in danger
you're correct absolutely
and that's got to change yeah it's got
to change yeah
so um
you know i and i i realize that people
have no idea what a brave man you are oh
you are i mean no i just i just wanted
the statement made on my interview here
that the courage that it takes to
actually do what you're doing right now
is phenomenal
really it is see i can get away with
this because i'm a journalist and i can
say anything and people say she's crazy
and just not listen
but someone with your stature you know
with your reputation and your
documentation and who you where you were
and
where you come from and all of that
this is substantial i don't think people
can ignore you i don't think they can
well i i sure hope they don't uh and uh
because frankly we need help yeah we
need everybody involved in this it's
it's not that's not
a lie we need help
yes
the navy had been involved with
the
the german facilities in antarctica and
the
draco reptilian facilities in caverns in
the antarctica
and you have
draco reptilian guys running your
governments right of every country on
your planet
i'm in government
there you go wow that's quite a
statement
does that answer your question
i'm sorry it's not what we want to hear
when we got to the moon we found out a
lot of surprises okay
the dracon reptilians were already there
and
we we
we knew because we had probes when we
went
non-manned probes that we sent around
the moon so we knew there were vasili on
the backside we knew a whole lot that
people didn't talk about
but
we were in a position where
uh
this moon is not a moon
okay
it's not your moon in the first place
actually this is not your planet uh
this is their laboratory okay right okay
the dracos you mean or the reptilians
trickle reptilian slash reptilian and
i'm gonna ask you what they all look
like and all that you know at some point
um okay um
because i know okay let's let's get to
when it was uh was it neil armstrong
landed on the moon and he said he said
that thing that you heard him say and
michael wants to get real specific about
this so
basically there are seven huge craft
there
and you said on one of the shows out
there you said um
that the the reptilians actually showed
up beneath their
craft and they gave the thing okay they
were parked around the side of the
crater okay they were not parked on it
they were floating above it
so
there were hundreds of
these nine foot reptilian guys standing
with their legs
yeah they were all the way across the
under
underneath their vehicles okay standing
on the cradle
and what do they look like
uh
they're ugly looking uh
lizard
alligator type people they got
they got the same skin as the lizards
got okay
and terrible
looking faces
but then they have the ability to shift
and look like a human
all of them do
okay okay do you think von braun was a a
reptilian no you really don't no
okay uh
your president yes
oh
what which one uh george bush senior yes
yeah sure and bill clinton and this guy
you got oh just got rid of yeah yeah
they all were
right okay
so where they all have this ability to
make themselves look like real
good-looking people and you're saying
trump does isn't one
no he's not
okay that's a relief and uh
and he knows more about this subject
than people realize it oh excellent
join the fight against the reptilians
and dracos that are basically plundering
the galaxies
um taking over planets etc
and you've said something very similar
yeah i have to agree with that uh i'm
just saying that this this is our our
situation
and i guess that we should wrap this up
and i want to say thank you i love you
love you love you and thank you for your
service to humanity okay appreciate it
and i mean that from the bottom of my
heart in the top of my heart
do you know of any stories that tell
connections between non-humans and
mormons
well um
there's a lot of strange stuff that goes
underneath the mormon temple
and nearby the mormon temple the mormon
table of course is right in the heart of
salt lake and it has sub-basements upon
sub-basements on sub-basements we've
been in some of them
and
it's
been reported
that
right across what's not been reported as
a fact and right across from the mormon
temple
is the downtown urban mall
i forget the name of it
and
in the basement of the mall numerous
times the cleaning people have seen
large reptilian figures walking on two
legs
scurrying through the skirting through
the basement of the mall
also
one of the temples actually the seattle
bellevue washington temple
when it was being built
some christian colleagues of mine snuck
into the fountain when they were
building the foundation of the temple
and put bibles underneath the the main
pylons of the temple
and they also put a little booklet
called tomorrow with love which was one
of the first and best anti-mormon books
ever written
and then they poured the concrete over
the temple so we we used to joke about
about that that temple was the only
mormon temple was built on the word of
god
then
you see uh yeah the temple dedication is
a huge deal the mormon prophet himself
flies in and prays this dedicatory
prayer over the temple and while he was
doing that up on the hill overlooking
the temple there's all these pine trees
and hiding behind the pine trees were a
dozen believers in yeshua
praying fiercely against the lying
deceitful spirits of mormonism
so guess what happens
we found out later from several people
who got born again that when people
would go into see the mormons believe
that that almighty god himself walks in
those temples
that's why they're so sacred they
believe that he's actually walking
through the corridors that he he stays
in the celestial room visits his
children that are there
and you know
and many people in mormon temples have
experiences where they see dead
ancestors like they'll go in and be
baptized for their dead grandmother or
something and then they'll see old
granny hovering up there in the ceiling
saying oh thank you for finally you know
baptizing me so i can join the one true
church you know that kind of thing and
of course all of these are demons
what's interesting about this bellevue
temple
is that people would start seeing these
horrible
crocodile reptilian-like figures running
through the hallways and it freaked
several people out to the point they got
born again you know what we believe is
that the prayers
and the the presence of the bibles
underneath the foundation was sort of
scrambling these
you know reptilians and demons or
whatever they were from appearing
as these benign relatives or as heavenly
father or whatever and so instead
the masks were being ripped off and they
were being seen for what they really
were
say
i have seen the chitto
i have smelled them
i've
i've had personal experience of these
and there are people who claim that
these creatures are gods
there are people there who claim that
these creatures are experimenting
on us that is a lot of rubbish
these creatures
are harvesting us
these creatures
are not aliens mr ike
these creatures are sexually compatible
with our women
and what does that tell you
it tells you that they came from here
they are
part of us
and this makes them all the more
dangerous they know us very very very
well they know the great weaknesses of
our minds just as they know the great
strengths of our minds they operate in
in what i call the gray area of human
existence that
that side of our lives which we don't
want to acknowledge the existence of
they create
african tradition says that the cheetah
where
where they engaged god himself in a
terrible war and god defeated them the
real god
the creator
god defeated them
and he closed their mouths so that they
are unable
to talk or to eat food anymore but
we are told say that the cheetah would
certain
on the energy that we human beings give
them
they make us to fight each other
and
when the whole land is drowning in death
and fear and terror when hundreds and
hundreds of people are angry and afraid
the cheetah would get fat
because they eat that that what we call
the dark power
which is brought about when human beings
destroy the planet on which they live
they feel human emotion yes
very very intense human emotion
we are told for example that if you see
a chitta worry
walking through the bush or just
standing there and looking at you and
you are accompanied by your wife or your
girlfriend you must immediately make
love to that girlfriend and release as
much emotion as possible and the
chitauri will be pleased and will walk
away from you
and not harm you and
another thing say
we are told that the cheetah will
eat
energy
which is generated
when hundreds of human minds or one
human mind
starts thinking at certain levels
we are told that the chitauri want us
to think at certain levels
yes and
they reward us
with long life
may i ask you sir
have you ever thought
as a thinking person
why is it
that in the great universities of this
world
you find professors
who think at certain levels
and who live unnaturally long lives
albert einstein
raymond dart
robert broome
all these professors
live
a long
long time
and my aunt mine
the last sanusi in south africa other
than myself
is as active as a young girl and yet she
is close to a 99th year of life
my stepmother
rose
she has lost nearly all his her children
and she is still alive
extreme longevity
is the reward
with which the cheetah will reward uh in
a previous interview barry you mentioned
seeing a lizard-like creature at
peasemar
would you uh tell us more about that
yeah on one occasion it was just a
single occasion i was in the main
corridor at the base
and coming out of the room
along the main corridor was
this very large creature very tall well
over six foot
um
being accompanied by
two
uh men in suits which i took to the nsa
operatives they're the only ones who
don't wear badges in the place
uh i just stopped in the tracks very
very
uh
shaken i mean it's a very powerful
looking uh being
very difficult to describe just very
very tall very well built very strong
well over as i say well over six where
he must have towed at least a foot over
my
my head
a greeny brownie mottled
type of skin
i tried to take in as many details as
possible but as i say it literally
caught me underwear as i was
really put into shot
didn't know what the hell it was it was
just casually walking along the main
corridor
with the two operatives
got a very strong sense of evil and
nastiness about the thing um
it worried me for quite a while
afterwards i mean you know you never
told the security people the last to be
told what's going on
but it was inferred by others at the
time that that was one of the reptile
species
because it didn't mean that much to me
at the time
but every time you ask questions no one
would answer it was just strongly
inferred that yeah that was a reptilian
you don't want to mess with that and it
was just left of that
but over the years
it just seems more and more plausible to
me that that also was another creation
from the base it just
you know
there may well be ripped in your races
but it's just as easy for the military
to actually
made this thing
rather than being
yeah did he make sounds or say anything
no he never looked at me it just
continued walking there was no
interaction whatsoever um i only got
some interaction from the two guys who
i'm standing there mouth wide open
gaping at this
and i just got the look from them just
you know
and they just continued and i continued
about my business
now there's no sound uh
no speaking no nothing but so it was
just walking along the main corridor
with the two guys that was it
did you have any idea what his function
was um well again you asked as many
questions as as you formulate afterwards
once you've got over the initial shock
of what the hell was that
no one wanted to know
no one wanted to easily give answers to
questions it was a case of well you saw
it that was it you know don't ask
questions
troublemakers ask questions and they
don't want them
he was walking on two feet was he or
four feet or two yes that was standing
up right i mean as i say i'm trying to
take in this all happened probably
within 30 seconds i'm taking it in
uh
feeling you know
yeah i don't want to meet this on a dark
night anyway
um
yeah i never even bothered to look back
it was well the glance back i gave
both the the figure and the two two guys
was was very brief while i continued
that's it i've got jobs to do
on my way that's not my business
but over a period of time you were there
for uh upwards of a year or so
altogether why did this one been 30
seconds
because it was so out of place with what
was going on there i mean everyone's so
used to the
different phases you know development of
the pg's and this literally stuck out
like a sort of rum you know it's just
not the usual thing you see around it so
just for once once only
um
yeah it was very unnerving very scary
any final questions
you didn't see an insignia or anything
on his clothing i mean he was dressed
inside presumably
if it was again i never noticed i didn't
discern you know oh that was skin and
that was close
it just didn't that wasn't there it was
just this tall being i mean mostly my
focus was from you know
chest upwards i mean the head
i was literally expecting it to turn
around and face me then i wouldn't know
what i would have done if it hadn't done
but it just kept looking straight and
continuing as if i wasn't even there
so no i didn't take in that many details
uh
what i saw was yeah quite enough thanks
very much is there anything
that you could say it looked like
uh
well again you've seen drawings that
people have done over the years of
supposed uh reptilians draco whatever
they you know their names are given
it lizard like i mean it literally is
like a very
tall very big lizard i mean you know
half expecting the big fork tongue to
come out but you know again it's just
what you expect for your program to
expect a lizard type being to be like
any idea why they would create such a
creature
well it's exactly the same like the the
normal calling that pgs i mean they're
there for military abductions and
there's a an aura of mystery over the
reptilians they're the dangerous ones
they're the ones who are in charge
uh they're just continuing that yeah
anything finally that you would like to
say
two
well as i mentioned
well there is i mean there's insiders
out there who probably know a hell of a
lot more than i'll ever know and there's
a lot of people out there who want to
come forward
just give them the reassurances
that they'd be listened to without being
laughed at they'll come forward can you
help enough
what is limited to what i can personally
do i mean
i can only
help with people over on this side the
atlantic and i know there's a load of
people
who were involved
and by making my documents known they
know that i was involved it might make
them a little bit safer in coming
forward
okay well thank you very much we
certainly appreciate your time and
efforts okay
this is david daniels this is how we
appeared um to me on my doorstep
when he said that he had come down in a
craft and he'd been told to come
to mine to to meet me
and give me knowledge
and he stayed with us for three months
and while he was staying with us i saw
him turn into a reptilian
um three different times
and you feel about this at the time i
didn't i didn't feel anything i felt um
friendly with him he was really nice um
you know we we really gelled together
and he learned gave me a lot of
knowledge he could
read any ufo book that i put in front of
him he knew exactly what was in the book
he didn't have to open it to read it he
could
prepare and disappear he only ate green
vegetables and sweets he didn't eat
anything else
he started to stay in the house because
we had to put you up in here before you
go to this if you go through the rest of
the pictures oh okay
that's david daniels reptilian that's
how he sort of changed
how what was the mechanism in changing
what was it like he's shook for about
two minutes he just absolutely shook
before his face started taking over
and then his body but i didn't actually
see his full body not until the third
well then i didn't see his full body i
just saw his face and his arms his hands
and his chest on the third one
and people say to me did he have a tail
but he you know as far as i know he
didn't because i didn't see the full
um full thing
sort of a shuddering blur yeah sort of
shack you know when he was going to
change
he sort of shook
and did he do that intentionally
well i guess it's the way he he
morphinized from being
home and to being a reptilian
um you know because when i saw the
little ones i used to play with the
little ones when i was five they used to
do the same things
sorry i call them the little ones no the
little et's
great
yeah when i used to play with them when
i was five down in the dale and they
used to do the same thing they used to
shake like jelly and i used to call them
my little jelly friends
um is that because they were changing
shape to humans or no it's because the
way they materialize and de-materialized
and it's the same with the little monks
down at rendelstrom they done exactly
the same thing
they used to shake um you know when they
when they materialized in front of us
and then when they dematerialized they
used to sort of shake like that and
there was a glow come off them and they
would just go
it's really hard to explain but um
that's the way
more of the
you know david
no
um only his um
only his um
this what he wore around his neck
is
david now
no no that's that's something to do with
david
now that to do with raw
but that's when he took me back um to my
past lives he
done something with that in front of me
like that and he was putting it in front
of me and told me to watch it and i was
watching it and he took me back to some
of my past lives
one was i was a man in egypt and i
helped to build the pyramids and i
described exactly how i helped to build
the pyramids and
one day of years after that um probably
in the 90s i went up to
norwich museum and i would do an
egyptian day
and the funny thing was there they had
pictures of how the pyramids were built
and that was exactly how i'd explained
it absolutely exactly
and another one i was a monk in peru or
i was a buddha actually in peru and i
was looking down going up to the big um
palace or wherever it was we were going
up this hill looking down in a valley
and you could see all the people who
were really poor and everything and they
were trying to grow their crops and that
um and then another time i don't know
what era i was in because
um there was a little boy and he was
pulling a like an oxen and a cart with
all grain in that in it across some
cobblestones
and i was standing there watching him in
a long gray dress
but i don't know unless it was tom
sawyer's day i don't know what what year
that was
but they were all in a human environment
as opposed to an alien environment yeah
they're all yes yeah they were yeah all
my past lives yeah