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pilot with Penny Bradley today's guest
is Tyler koala who is returning this is
our second session
uh Tyler koala is an experiencer
independent researcher and passionate
disclosure activist most popularly known
in The Awakening Community for journey
to truth podcast
hosted by himself and fellow disclosure
activist Aaron Kuhn
together they have created a platform
for discussing any and all controversial
and eye-opening topics without
limitations in an effort to spare to
spread awareness to the masses
welcome Tyler
or should I say welcome back yeah no
thanks for having me back good to see
you again
um ready to get into this and just have
some fun things are
a little messy right now as everyone
knows
uh interesting times
um
this is I've been public since 2016.
and about once a year
those two particular
principal parties
buttheads
loudly
controversially
and those of us those of the public who
want to think that we're all
frankly full of [ __ ]
jump on it as a way to discredit all of
us
and I'm just to the point of I really
don't care
I'm telling the truth is I know it
if you don't want to believe me
don't listen to my broadcast
right well the thing is
obviously you know to in a nutshell you
play stupid games you win stupid prizes
and we're seeing that play out right now
whether or not whether what's being said
is true or not it doesn't even matter
because look at the effect it's having
now we're having these narratives
immediately people are running they're
throwing the baby out with the bathwater
and they're running with this narrative
that the whole SSP never existed it's
fake
um especially the people who
dislike this individual and it's
becoming messy but the thing is you
can't kill the truth you can't kill the
truth and it's no matter what anyone
tries to do at the end of the day the
truth is always going to shine through
so there's really actually nothing to
worry about it's just going to look a
little messy for a while and it confuses
people but uh that's why we have to keep
doing what we're doing and just stay
authentic to ourselves and live in
integrity and and don't really get
involved in all that stuff and
truck just keep moving forward keep
dropping forward
you know if the person at the
controversy were actually the person who
first brought up secret space program
then I could maybe see what their issue
was
but he wasn't uh Bill Cooper is who
actually coined the term before the
internet was even a thing and
Bill Cooper was a whistleblower from
Navy intelligence and then there was
Michael Ralph who has had a website he's
now deceased but his widow runs it
still and he went through the work of
using muscle testing to find out why he
was so traumatized
and so his his
testimony is there for free on his
website in fact she the Widow has
accused that particular person of
plagiarism the entire time he's been
public and uh I know for a fact that
James rink was was public with a website
with a website and books
long before this other person came up
the entire super soldier Community
was up and active and and
yeah I mean in fighting long before this
man even thought about coming public so
the fact that they're using him to
discredit the rest of us is just
kind of sounds for [ __ ] it's worship to
me it's these P these two men are
throwing horseshit at each other and
seeing where it'll stick and I'm just
I'm tired of being
stuck with overspray right and that's
why we're always uh we just stay in our
own lane with the podcast we don't get
involved in all the stuff we don't get
in the middle of it at any time in the
past where we have it sucks you so far
off your path and it's detrimental to
your mental state your health your
energy so we don't even feed it and it's
actually comical when you stand back and
look at all of it and watch how immature
the reactions are and it's something
that doesn't align with where I'm trying
to go personally so I'm not even gonna I
don't even like passion on it too much
even here you know because it's good to
discuss and people need to be aware of
what's going on but you give it too much
energy you just allowing yourself to get
siphoned into that narrative which at
this point that's exactly what it is you
know and uh there's so many more
important things to be discussing like
the truth of what these people are
experiencing like yourself and and
whoever else is coming forward right now
well I think we had done three of your
stories last time
we had agreed ahead of time because of
your schedule that this session would
run
an hour and a half so we need to
um
we need to start again
that's fine you know it says it was at
the end of the interview last time there
was a few things I had remembered that I
forgot to say or whatever you know
and there's and there's another entire
thing that happened in my life which is
actually really fascinating and
interesting
uh looking in hindsight at the time when
it happened I didn't really understand
it but I'm going to go all the way back
to elementary school whenever you know
because when you start learning about
this stuff you go back to your childhood
and you revisit certain events
and there's something that stuck out to
me always I remember I was in fifth
grade and two Air Force gentlemen came
into our classroom
and they wanted everybody in the class
to draw
a spaceship draw a UFO what they think
would be the best but they wanted us to
not draw one but design one
and then and so we all everyone
basically I remember almost everyone in
the class drew a rocket typical rocket
conventional racket I remember drawing a
black
triangle
a black triangle almost like I had no
idea what it was but that's what I drew
and then I remember looking around at
everyone else's
rockets and I was almost embarrassed to
turn mine in because I didn't it didn't
match everyone else's
and
I don't really remember much of what
happened what year was that
oh man early 90s I was in fifth grade
so
yeah way early 90s
um
for me was 1965 so that's why I was
asking this is everything I was born in
86 so by the time I was in fifth grade
93 94.
um
I I'm terrible I'm terrible with the
years in my age whatever so anyway I
remember those guys coming in and asking
us to draw that and we all turned it in
and they were like oh that's cool that's
cool that's a good idea you know oh this
is awesome and they were they told us
you know children usually have sometimes
have the best ideas and that's why they
wanted us to each design our own craft
looking back on it now I think they
wanted to see what we were remembered if
anyone remembered or had knowledge of
anything like a free energy technology
or a black triangle or whatever the case
was
and that just always stood out to me and
it wasn't until I heard about all this
SSP stuff growing up that I was like oh
that's really interesting and I talked
to other people and I don't really know
anyone else who has had that happen I
think one other person finally reached
out and said the same thing happened at
their school but it doesn't seem like a
typical thing maybe it is I don't know
it was it wasn't in the 60s
um although
my fifth grade teacher had us keep a
scrapbook and mine was on UFO sightings
and it was clippings from the newspaper
you know going to school to make it to
recess that was my you know lunch lunch
and recess are the only two things I
cared about the school you were there
because you had to be
right you know I just saw something the
other day that said you know how you
fall asleep and and like you tune out
like sometimes during lectures and stuff
in school it's because your body is a
tuning fork and it's like an antenna and
then when the information doesn't align
with
truth or you know when you're being fed
this [ __ ] propaganda in school you
automatically tune out you know because
actually it's indoctrination right it
has nothing to do with what it means to
be a human like some of it right
um when they're teaching you false
history and stuff like that is what I
mean but what's really interesting like
you think about oh that's why I can
never stay awake during this class in
this class like my body was literally
tuning out that information because it
wasn't aligned with me it wasn't
resonating
and I think there's something to that
I think there is too uh
I went to school because
home
was abusive
so for me home home was so bad that
school was a pleasant escape
and that's that's something that most
the people I talked to can't fathom that
well you know that's kind of typical for
what we hear from SSP people and they
choose they choose children like that
who were come from broken homes
unfortunately and in our intraumatic
situations where the parent isn't really
keeping good tabs on their child and
they look for those scenarios
and so that you kind of just fits the
bill right
well as an adult I have noticed that my
mother has altars so that what that
contributes to the
the it's a family
program well I I just saw a study that's
that said the average person has 12
altars like it's Alters is becoming like
a common term it doesn't this isn't even
SSP related this is just like talking
about alternate personalities based on
traumatic experiences in our 3D life
and you know folks never had Alters that
they talked about publicly before the
movie The Three faces of Eve
I've never even seen that that was in
the 1950s oh okay
you know
yeah this is a new phenomenon that's
happened during my lifetime and at the
same time you have all of these these
programs
that are
being inflicted on the population and so
yeah it's going people are going to
start having
different things happen
yeah and uh I just watched this
documentary called the Montauk
Chronicles
uh it's actually the documentary where
they got the idea for the show stranger
things but they found
whistleblowers who worked not not
survivors of project Montauk right
people who worked there and one of the
guys on there I had never really seen uh
these type of whistleblowers before
surrounding Montauk and these guys were
really old I don't know how they were
but the one was explaining how I mean
I'm talking like a very very other like
80s 90s you know yeah and the one guy
was explaining how he worked on the he
was one of the scientists that was
creating the altars and he was
explaining how they were creating altars
and he broke down the science of it
and he was you know explaining it all
and it's really interesting we always
get the the other end of it the Survivor
is explaining it but we never had the
people who were actually conducting the
work they're doing the studies even
against her own will even though it was
an Air Force project these people were
still they weren't questioning they were
just taking orders
yeah
I see way too much of that and the
people who come forward and say we did
this it was wrong but we were following
orders and it it mortifies me because
not even a decade before these programs
were started they had the Nuremberg
trials where the the Free World
decided that just following orders was
not a legal defense for committing
crimes
um yeah so the the
irony
right really gets to me
right I mean that's that's an entire
topic of discussion in itself
yeah because these people who are in
these positions taking orders uh afraid
to lose their rank or stand up against
what they believe or stand up for what
they believe in you know
um because of what might happen to them
their families you know
a lot of them were killed a lot of them
their families were killed uh if you
look back through through American
history
since World War II and some before that
any time that you stood up to
the government or as we used to call it
the man
uh you were at risk for you and your
family being killed and this this is
something that a lot of people are not
realizing that to
stand up
um
I'm only public because they were
shooting at me
it was my intention to basically do like
Misha Johnston does and just have
counseling services right I wasn't going
to be a public speaker this was
something that was thrust upon me in
order to survive
so yeah I understand people doing things
they really didn't want to in order to
survive
yeah it's all part of it it's part of it
and you know fast forward into the story
I didn't get to tell last time was
before I ever went through any sort of
Awakening or anything uh this guy I used
to work with we used a carpool together
he's a little bit older than me I'm
about 10 years older than me probably
at least a carpool together we were
friends you know we were [ __ ] take
break whatever you just it's a work
buddy I was in construction
uh I wasn't we were sometimes on the
same job site sometimes we weren't one
time we weren't on the same job site and
I heard all these rumors hey did you
guys hear about Larry did you guys hear
about Larry I'm like what uh some black
government view Vehicles came and
escorted him off the job site blacked
out the technical stereotypical you know
like you would see in the movie
uh they came escorted off the job site
and rumors started flying what did he do
what did he do all this stuff that
nobody actually knew it never did come
become clear I mean I never found out
what he did and why they came and took
him
but then he lost his job obviously and
he started getting online
making all these posts online saying
that he was being recruited to go to
Mars and saying all this crazy stuff and
he started sharing all this like truther
information this was back in 2017
like I was just getting into this stuff
I really wasn't fully like Snapped into
understanding like the SSP voice and God
technology and all that stuff I was
interested that I wasn't there yet and
he would
um
what was I gonna say oh yeah he would
post all this stuff
um just weird stuff that everyone
thought he was crazy at the time and
they were literally like saying man did
you see Larry he's going crazy talking
about Mars and how Hillary Clinton's a
murderer and Obama's the Antichrist and
and he's saying Princess Diana is still
alive and she was replaced with a clone
or her clone was killed or whatever all
this weird [ __ ] you know back then it
would just make you look like you're off
the rails
and looking back on it now I'm like okay
what was happening to him so all that
was going on everyone was just talking
trash on them at work
one one morning I just decided to get up
and take my dog to walk in this park
that I'd never go to It's actually an
old abandoned military base near my
house
it's abandoned quote abandoned but it's
not I know there's still active stuff
going on there related to these Black
Ops programs and stuff but
it was the first time I ever decided to
take my dog there
and I show up in a parking lot and he's
I pull up and he's right next to me
and I look over and I'm like Larry he
goes oh you showed up I said what do you
mean I showed up he goes you don't think
you ended up here by accident did you
and I'm like what do you mean and we we
got out of the car and he I said what
happened at work what's going on blah
blah he starts telling me that that
um he's being recruited to go to Mars
and he's being recruited to go to Mars
and long story short they he wants me to
go with him this is what he's told me
and I'm thinking okay maybe he is losing
his mind and he starts sharing all this
information with me about weather
manipulation timelines parallel this and
that all this he was saying tell me
about all the technology that they have
where they can listen to you from the
satellites oh all this stuff it was like
information overload and I'm just like
whoa whoa like
what's going on here he's I'm like where
do you
and I'm looking in his truck and it's
full of all his stuff I'm like where are
you living now that he goes in my truck
he's like they uh my wife put a
restraining order against me well all
the stuff I'm thinking to myself yeah I
wonder why you know but I was still
giving them the time of day and
listening to him and he's like yeah
they've been following me ever since
um they've been following me ever since
I'm waiting me about him he said see
that guy over by the tree he's listening
to us he has a repair piece right now
and I look over and you guys like
adjusting his earpiece and he's like
pretending like he's stretching but he's
like in this random tree I'm like
what's going on here like what am I
getting myself into and we had this
whole long conversation
and uh
whatever whatever else you know I I had
I made this into a presentation so I had
to look at my notes uh okay yeah so
that was you documented it yeah I had to
I actually spoke about this at a
conference one time and I was it was so
much because this went on for like
almost a year
of me interacting with him and him
trying to get me to go with him to Mars
This was the whole big thing right and
he started like he would just be at my
house whenever I got home from work and
he was telling me all this crazy stuff
about the government and how they're
spying on people and what their
capabilities are and he kept talking
about weather manipulation he kept
telling me about how there's two
timelines and he said you can see
evidence of the two timelines by he said
look at even video games like a sports
game they have they always have two
covers each year that they get voted on
he goes the two covers are actually for
which team won that the Stanley Cup or
whatever in that timeline so and then
and it's like
he's like he would show me all this
evidence of
how there's actually two timelines
playing out right and I didn't know
anything what he was talking about at
the time but I was just like and it was
almost to the point where it was kind of
annoying what he knew about the timeline
War
yeah yeah but this is coming from a guy
who we all we would do is talk about
sports and nothing at work all of a
sudden he was just getting and I asked
him where is he getting all this
information from and he said they're
telling me like in his head so he was
like somebody's talking to me I'm like
who he goes I don't know okay yeah but I
didn't know about v2k back then now
I'm like I'm like I'm sorry I'm just
blurting out answers
looking back on it I know that's what it
was I'm certain of it because he was he
knew things that he shouldn't have known
and it's not just it wasn't random
things and yeah he was even telling me
about underground bases and ETS and and
how some of the Stars aren't actually
stars and their UFOs and this and that
and just yeah and all of these things
but the underlying issue was he kept
wanting me to go to Mars and he was he
was trying to he would tell me like
um we're gonna leave on Labor Day of
2017. he said uh you can you can pack a
bag but you can only bring like only
like a very small amount of thing you
have to leave everything else behind I'm
liking myself I'm not going to Mars with
you dude like what are you talking about
I don't even know you know what was
going on
and
he was persistent like he would call me
all times of the day and night text me
and then he and he started telling me
about this I was like how are you going
to get there he's like uh it's like a
portal or a jump room he would say and
he was telling me about this time
traveler that he met there's at least
two of them
yeah and he was telling me about a time
traveler that he met in the in the Saint
Francis mountains in Missouri which
there's there's people who have come
forward said there's an underground
military installation there and he would
meet this girl under this bridge and
near the Saint Francis River
whatever it's like an hour or two south
of my house and he would meet her there
and and she was like giving him
information and explaining like and then
he would come back and then try and give
it to me and he wanted me
to meet this girl he kept trying to give
me to come to this bridge and meet this
girl and I'm like this is the most
sketchiest possible thing ever I'm not
going to this bridge
and then
he was persistent though like I'm
telling you like it was almost like I
look back on it now and it was like
somebody was pushing him almost to
recruit me that's the only way I can
think of it because why would he care
and he would even say things like you're
the only person they let me talk to
he said I don't know why he goes they
don't let me talk to my wife my kids
anybody that gets close to me they pull
out of my life they allow me to talk to
you and then he would come to my house
we would have black Vehicles drive by to
drive through my subdivision and my dog
never ever ever barked at cars but when
these black cars would drive by my dog
will go crazy hollering at these cars
and she never barks at carbs especially
just a car driving by the driveway every
day I'm like
and then I started wondering like am I
like gonna get in trouble am I like
hating and betting somebody here like I
see what's going on
there are people who feel that way about
me right my neighbors don't want to talk
to me
I do admit that I went through a spell
where a a a time frame where that I had
trouble containing it
yeah but I mean exactly
yeah but this this one this went on and
on um this was week after week uh he
would it was kind of getting annoying to
be honest because he would just be at my
house when I got home from work and then
I would and he would do but at the same
time he was giving me all this like
information overload but I was so
fascinated by it and I felt really bad
because everyone else in his life had
thought just wrote him off and I was
like giving them the time of day
and some of this stuff was like I wasn't
ready for that information but now
looking back I'm like oh my God like
everything he was saying is real stuff
that I just didn't understand at the
time
everything everything's real stuff most
of it you can get Declassified documents
to prove it and I have files and files
and files of Declassified documents and
people think that I'm just making it up
yeah
yeah he would tell me about NK Ultra and
he would tell me about weather
manipulation a lot like he couldn't
stress that enough about how much of our
weather is manipulated like this and
well so much weather has been
manipulated that the Gulf Stream has
stopped running
I mean a lot of a lot of streams have
stopped running because of weather
manipulation well the the yeah
the drought in California is completely
weather manipulation it's Warfare on our
state
and it's because they want the Navy in
the ocean to be able to communicate with
the bases in Nevada and any weather in
between interferes with that so they
stopped our weather gave us a drought
so the the military could continue to
communicate
yeah and and we should be able to prove
that from documents that are
Declassified and we should be able to
sue the Air Force for doing that because
it's the Air Force doing it
but they made it where we can't sue them
right exactly there's a loophole in all
of it
it's systematic corruption they know
that on every level yeah
but
yeah so going back to the story because
it gets crazier
he wanted me to uh
he said okay if you don't want to come
to the bridge I can have a different
lady contact you she'll message you on
Facebook uh you'll uh I won't even tell
you her name you'll know who she is and
she'll only engage with you the code
word he told me the code was I had to if
she messaged me I had to invite her to
the Church of Scientology
and that's that's the only that's the
only way that's the only way she would
reveal
to her time travel program and all the
stuff that she was in but she won't talk
to you unless he's unless you initiate
with the Church of Scientology and lo
and behold this Colombia lo and behold
is very attractive girl sends me a
friend request she likes every single
picture in my history like blows up my
entire Facebook feed to where I couldn't
even ignore it and she sends me a
message
I don't even remember what the message
was there's something like hey how's it
just basic
and I said you know Larry and she's like
yeah I know Larry and and I said I said
are you a time traveler I'm like I'm not
even playing games I said are you a time
traveler because that's what he said and
she was like I don't know what you're
talking about blah blah and all this
stuff and I wouldn't ever I wouldn't I
purposely wouldn't bring up the
Scientology thing because I actually
didn't want to get myself involved in it
but I was interested enough to see what
she had to say we went back and forth
for a while I was asking her questions
but she wouldn't answer them and Larry
was like dude you have to you have to
invite her to the Church of Scientology
it was like the the secret code right
yeah and then he started telling me all
about scientology and all the stuff that
I didn't know in the end of that later
learned about you know after my
Awakening
so there was that aspect of it but that
that kind of fizzled out because I
really wasn't I really didn't actually
want to
something inside me was telling me not
to go to that bridge not to go meet that
girl under the bridge not to
initiate anything any further with this
girl online
and
you know but he was persistent and he
was adamant
and uh let me see yeah okay so he would
tell me we're gonna leave before Labor
Day
that year and he kept telling me you
know you have to leave everything behind
you can pack a bag you can bring
pictures of your loved ones just things
that mean something to you and that's it
and I was just like Larry I'm sorry man
I'm not going with you to Mars like I
don't even know if you're actually going
to Mars I'm I'm thinking myself out I'm
looking crazy
so he messages me
he messages me at work one day
and he said oh I'm sorry you hurt your
foot
I'm sorry you hurt your foot but it's
just a sprain don't worry it's not
broken
and I said
Larry I didn't hurt my foot what do you
what the hell are you talking about I
texted him back
so what the hell are you talking about
and he goes oh
he goes oh maybe he goes maybe it was
just a premonition and he goes but it
would be a perfect excuse for you to
leave work to go with me
and I'm like okay huh well funny I said
I told you I'm not going
so the next day I get called that day at
the end of the day I get called to go to
another job site downtown where they're
setting these huge railroad steel
railroad tracks
and
uh where I'm working and my foot I'm I'm
just this uh this truck is delivering
some railroad tracks big Steel on the
way with a ton on whatever the hell they
weigh and one of them rolls off of the
forks and smashes my foot in between the
sidewalk and the and the railroad track
this big steel truck and I thought my
whole foot was crushed I thought it was
broken I thought I was done for it and
they we flipped it off my foot and it
was like my foot turned into elastic and
nothing happened to my foot except it
was just spraying and swollen but it
didn't break there was no fractures
and I had forgot and then I was I was
walking around working like oh my God
Larry sent me that text yesterday about
hurting my foot saying it was this
premonition and here I hurt my foot and
thought I broke it but I didn't broke it
and he specifically said don't worry
it's not broken
whatever and he's like it'd be a perfect
excuse for you to go
and I'm thinking this is just getting
way way too uh way too weird way too
weird
and then he started getting then he
started getting suspicious of me
and because he was like he kept asking
like why
he goes why why are you talking to me
still why are they let me talk to you he
goes what do you know and he was asking
me these questions like I knew something
he's like this doesn't make any sense
that you're the only person that let me
talk to you unless you actually know
something
and then he's like
everybody that I have counseled
goes through a stage where they think
that the people that they're allowed to
talk to or allowed to live with are
somehow handlers that's actually a very
dangerous stage some of them get it in
their head it's okay to kill a Handler
so that's a very dangerous place to be
right and he was getting there he kept
he was like really be he was like Dude
tell me he would look at me like what do
you know why are you able to talk to you
start getting real suspicious and all I
could do is laugh because I'm like dude
I'm wondering the same thing about you
like I'm wondering exact same thing
about you I don't even know what's going
on here and you're lucky I'm even
entertaining this this long because
everyone else in his life had literally
written him off and he was willingly
living homeless out of his truck you
know he had money
and it was just this really weird thing
and so he was always we had that we went
back and forth uh as far as that goes
and one day I came home from work I'm
I'm skipping through a lot of this being
maybe it's a way long story but I came
home from work one day and my dog was
outside and but my dog no one that lives
in my house no one my dog would have to
be let out and she goes out back
but my front door was locked there was
no cars home and I got home and I opened
up the front door
and Larry is sleeping on my couch
I'm like dude what the [ __ ] are you
doing in my house sorry for my language
I'm like
I'm like dude what are you doing in my
house sleeping in my car I was so mad I
was like I was like you are so lucky I
know you were I would call the police
right now although you can't just let
yourself in here I'm like where how did
you get here where's your truck and he's
like oh my truck is at Best Buy I walked
here uh because they're following me and
he was trying to hide from him I'm like
oh well thanks for using my house like
they already don't know that you come
here anyway
by parking his truck and walking to my
house and and he uh he's like oh by the
way I took a shower and bought this and
that I'm like okay uh
so you don't stink in my house okay
right
I'm sorry
it's it's all this stuff for me is very
familiar I have friends who are very
much like this and and my partner Lou
just sort of looks
thank you
I remember telling the story at the time
to some of my friends and they were like
oh it was totally like eyes glued like
what like this was crazy and there's
even details about it I probably don't
even remember uh but just a little
details of conversations and things that
would happen or like I would be talking
about something with a friend and he
would call at the exact same time like
almost like he knew I was and he would
share some information that pertain to
our conversation almost like he knew it
was really weird
and anyway he was on my couch like we
got his argument and he was like dude
just calm down like he goes I came here
because I'm leaving and this is your
last chance to come with me I'll say I'm
not he's like I'm not going with you I
said I'm not going with you Larry I'm
sorry
uh good luck and Mars you know I'm just
like I still at this point didn't really
actually believe it
and he's like well can you at least take
me to my truck so I don't have to walk
there
and I said yeah and I'm taking him he's
like this is the last time you're ever
gonna see me by the way
and I'm thinking okay I'm sure he's
gonna call me tomorrow you know whatever
I'm like oh yeah he goes he goes HD this
is your last chance too if you want to
come we can still arrange it
I said I'm sorry I'm sorry you know and
I dropped him off in his truck in the
parking lot
he got into his truck rolled out on his
window I had my window down
and he rolled on his window and said see
you on the other side and drove off and
that was in July of 2017.
and never have you been heard from since
he's a missing person though
yeah a lot of folks
have discussed having similar offers and
the ones that took it have
become missing persons
there are a lot more of them than people
think and it started in the 1960s
right and I didn't really have anything
it's
it's real
there it was so prevalent in the 1960s
they referred to it as the brain drain
and there was a a documentary made for
British you know BBC and they played it
on April Fool's Day so that people would
believe it was a joke
but they but they used actual footage
from a Mars Landing
in that documentary and played that off
as a joke and it has never been shown on
air again uh there was a copy of it that
was on YouTube for a while I don't know
if it's still up
yeah that's interesting
I downloaded it I have a copy yeah I'd
like to see that I'd like to see that
um
I
uh another thing he was always the one
of his selling points is well one of the
selling points they were using on him is
they were telling him how great of a
life he was going to have on Mars he's
like he he's like you're going to be
like fit like a king this and that
there's going to be women there if you
want women he would you know they were
trying they were using the women to
really get him sucked in and they made
it sound to him like it was just way
better than Earth and he could leave all
his problems behind and that's kind of
what he was trying to sell to me too and
I understand like no this is that's
their way of abducting you into a
slavery slavery program that's the way I
you know what I see it as now
um and it's really interesting I've had
two two or three separate
quote dreams where he's came and visited
me
and like asteroid and like one of them
while I was working on the presentation
and I was like Larry
I was like Larry are you back did you go
to Mars and ask him all these questions
and he didn't say anything he just
looked at me and smiled and then I woke
up you know and then on two other
occasions uh he showed up like that and
I don't know if it's a dream or what's
happening but he'll literally show up
and he doesn't say anything when I ask
some questions he just smiles and then
it ends and
it just always baffles me when that
happens and I always wonder like did he
actually go to Mars what happened to him
is he in jail somewhere is he homeless
somewhere
you know I don't know I don't know yeah
but I and I look back on it now I'm like
I think about how crazy the situation
that actually was and why why me like I
look I'm like of anyone he could have
been talking to and trying to quote
recruit
like why was it me and I don't and if I
did have some ties to some program or
something I have no idea and I was
totally unaware of it at the time but
there might have been some reason some
some reason unless they just saw me as
an easy easy Target because I was single
uh maybe because you drew a black
triangle when they asked you maybe that
too I have no idea
uh that's pretty compelling evidence
that you were part of something because
they were invented in the 80s and were
still very top secret
right yeah right I mean I didn't even
think about that actually I didn't know
when they were actually invented Edward
Fouche came out with those in the 90s
and they were over a decade old whenever
he brought them out and he had been one
of the designers but that's what the um
triangle ships are that
that people are
freaking out in the UFO Community
because oh I saw a triangle ship well
the triangle ships are American
um Ed Fouche told us that
they're built in Utah
right and I told you on the last
interview like I saw I finally saw one
for the first time on March 2nd of this
year
fly over my house like right over my
house after that whole series of weird
events happened which it feels like like
lately I swear like I don't know if it's
targeting or like it's like this weird
recruitment thing I swear like they'll
be like a Navy in an army vehicle oh my
God so this happened while finished
they're like Navy Army vehicles driving
that next to me all these weird
recruitment things I don't know this
stuff put into my awareness almost to
like lure me in and the next day after
our interview
uh left I went to this place where I ate
lunch I'd like to go eat lunch and um
there was three three Navy recruiters
there
and three female Navy recruiters sitting
there female Navy recruiters
well that's a whole Sex Magic thing you
know of course a female is going to be
more appealing you know than just a man
a guy coming up to you trying to get
recruit you but they weren't they never
said anything to me I just thought it
was really weird and a prior experience
at that restaurant I was blocked the
exit was blocked I couldn't leave by
this truck this tractor trailer that had
a white uh Pegasus on it said Pegasus
across and I thought oh because you know
Project Pegasus and all the stuff we
hear about that and I thought oh how
funny I took a picture of it
and like this is no coincidence and I
had to wait for this truck that sat
there it seemed like forever before I
can leave the parking lot the next time
I go there there was to be Navy
recruiters and then as I left that day I
know this was a sign there's like a
flashing billboard of all the stores in
the plaza and one of them showed why at
first I thought was the space Force logo
and I looked closer and it was it was
basically the space Force logo like the
it's like a but it was the A and the
word Appliance for this Appliance
Warehouse that was right next door to
this
um
this place that I would eat at and so I
went back there
well I looked at it I'm like oh my God
like this couldn't be any more like a
recruitment like a covert recruitment
Plaza or something it couldn't be any
more in your face right and it just
those of us who can read the symbols
know what's going on around us
this was all the next day after I talked
to you last time
um so I was trying to tell Aaron about
it and we drove back up there
you've had you've had weirdnesses every
time after you've talked to me haven't
you
so far yeah
okay
I just wanted to make that clear for our
audience uh I deeply respect that this
man still talks to me because he's had
all kinds of crap happen every time
we've interacted
I mean yeah I don't it's not like
they're trying to kill me so it's you
know but it it's not like I have
anything to do with it no I don't I
don't think so at all you know it's just
somebody doesn't want us talking
too much
and I right so I uh I actually was
trying to tell Aaron about the uh logo
from this place
and I didn't I said I'm not even gonna
tell you about it I'm gonna take you
there and show you and he's like whoa
he's like that's a space boards logo
it's a instead of an a it was like this
Delta with the thing going around it it
wasn't actually the space Force logo but
really similar the same thing you see on
Star Trek and all this stuff
and it was Appliance Warehouse and like
let's go inside there and let's just
walk around see what happens I see you
not like we both
left and when we were leaving and
getting in the car we both felt like we
were being fried with microwave weapons
like it started like we felt it felt
horrible or do we this is not good like
somebody we're getting playing with fire
somebody doesn't want us around here uh
there's no way to like I don't know how
else to describe it but it was like this
really
because it's feeling like your blood was
boiling from the inside and it was just
horrible
that's what mazers feel like
now what is it I know like what's a
Mazer exactly I don't know a laser is
light that's Amplified into a beam a
Mazer is microwave energy Amplified into
a beam and both both can be weaponized
yeah I mean I guess I just never really
for somehow I never heard him call the
majors but I called microwave weapons
yeah yeah microwave weapons are called
mazers right and then there's
um
the directed energy weapons which are a
much stronger version usually and my
understanding is that they are based on
tall white Tech that was linked to the
Air Force
right yeah but I have no documentation
for that so
yeah there's uh
it wasn't a good feeling but
no it's not a good feeling I've been
shot between between dues mazers lasers
um
I've been shot 10 times at hurts like
hell it takes about six weeks to recover
right I mean I I didn't didn't take me
that long to recover it really didn't
take long at all just made me feel
uncomfortable for a couple hours
um
they weren't trying to kill you yeah
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um
it was almost maybe maybe it wasn't even
that maybe it was something else you
know I don't know but
uh it was just weird coincidence that we
were feeling that right at the same time
um
but yeah if you start looking around
there's like a world within a world you
know we have the regular world we see
then like that Plaza could be doubling
as our SSP recruitment center and
there's another place in St Louis that's
a telemarketing call center that I've
heard uh some people claimed it's also a
recruitment center and I've always had a
connection with that building since I
was a child of this weird it was so
weird every time we would drive by it I
would stare at it and when I found out
as an adult what it could possibly be my
jaw hit the floor and I'm like every
time I could almost go back and tell you
every time I drove past that building
because I remember it so vividly
doesn't mean anything but it's weird
coincidence right I I don't know but
there's just what I'm trying to say is
there's more going on right beneath our
eyes hidden in plain sight and if you
know what to look for there's like it's
like a world within a world there's like
two separate things happening at once
the illusion right The Matrix and then
this other thing that we kind of see
portrayed in movies and that kind of
stuff
you you have the world that most people
see and then there's the world that
they're hiding
and if you can read it you can see it
and then there's another level beyond
that for the people who are actually
running the show
so it's like it's like being in the
audience being on stage or being
backstage
yeah I mean I don't know what to make of
all of it I try not to
aside from talking about it on like this
I don't even actually like I actually
considered like canceling I'm like I
don't even know if I should be talking
about this stuff and I was like you know
I'm already committed to it I'll just do
it but I don't want to make it a habit
of like going on every single show
telling the same story over and over I
don't want to do that actually
uh I was I was going to stop doing
interviews entirely because everybody
wanted me to do
the intro over and over and over and
over and over again and I caught myself
being really rude on some people's shows
and just talking about what I wanted to
talk about no matter what they said
just talking through them and I I would
listen to it and go you know I was
really a [ __ ] there well hey awareness
is the first step right at least you
acknowledged it yeah and uh
so I I'm picky about who show I go on I
don't get a lot of invitations these
days
but it's because
as one of my guests put it to me before
we were on air the public wants to hear
men they don't want to hear women
and um
a producer once told me that I was
too old and not pretty enough to be on
his platform
so I'm I'm just
I'm just you know
it is what it is I'm telling the truth
as I know it and I'm on my own podcast
and if people want to hear me they know
where I am
yeah you don't want to be on somebody's
show who has that mentality anyway
no I don't
know don't even don't even let it bother
you okay that's their own deal
you know that that's where it stands and
uh
I've been public since 2016 and
it feels like I'm bashing my head
against the wall
and
some people are listening and some
people aren't and I've noticed when I
put up a new video that the first two
weeks or so I get all of these people
who are gushing
and then after that I get the ones that
want to nitpick me apart and I'm getting
to where I just click click like and
then delete the ones that are the
nastiest right you mean it's
if sometimes I get to the point where
just don't even read the comments you
know it's not like you're always going
to have those people you're always going
to have people who don't agree with you
who say evil things hate things they
would never say to you to your face but
they hide behind their keyboard and it's
easy and that's the problem with what's
going on now people have the balls and
say things through your keyboard online
but they would never say that to your to
your face you know they're hiding behind
a screen name in an avatar and those
people you know don't even let them it's
it's just a stranger like don't let them
don't give them your energy don't give
them the time of day it doesn't matter
what they think about you
it really doesn't
I didn't think what they want because if
you're true to yourself and you're
living in integrity and telling your
story as the truth like it doesn't
matter what they say because the truth
will always win so I wouldn't worry
about
that you truth wins eventually
um
but
you know it's we've got
we've got a topic that is so out there
you know when you start talking about
friends inviting you to go to Mars
that's really very mild in this
community
yeah but
it is mild I guess it is but at the same
time it's like
for someone who's coming from the
audience to the stage
it's very shocking yeah
yeah so for you it was a very shocking
experience because you had not
encountered any of that before
and now you're on the stage and looking
back on it and you remember being
shocked
yeah but I remember
anything he said was it actually
shocking and retrospect no none of it
all right absolutely none of it and it
was funny because they even at the time
before he uh before he disappeared he
would make these weird Facebook posts
like he would sell or he would share the
song Metallica I'd Disappear and he
would say things like I'm ready for Mars
I can't wait like they're just weird
things are and just like
I don't know what was going on he knew
he was convinced he was going and he's
been missing since then so whatever
happened I don't know but
um
yeah I Disappeared Metallica he said oh
time to get to Mars
June 11th he said 2017 he said that uh I
can't wait to get off this rock I'm
ready for Mars
I've got a lot of I've got a lot of
Facebook friends who think that it's
better on Mars
um
my memories of ours were all military
so I have no idea what the civilian life
there is like yeah I mean I would
imagine it's great I don't know I've
heard that everyone on Mars believes
Earth was destroyed and there's this
whole narrative I couldn't tell you
that's true or not but
there was that narrative when I was
there but I left in 1990. so I don't
know what the current narrative is
there you go
all right
um
as far as bars was very different for me
um
I was in a plane so I was usually flying
above it and not so much
not so much concerned about what was
the culture there so much as
being one with the plane and feeling
free
out there
and yeah I had my jobs to do but it was
like I was free
and the only time I was free the whole
time I served with any of the the
programs was being in a plane flying
over Mars and
I grew up there first which most people
don't understand that that means
the German cultural norms that I grew up
with on Mars are what's most ingrained
in me so I have trouble fitting into
American society
yeah it's understandable yeah I mean
it's anytime you leave work since like
you said ingrainian you are in your
roots as you know them and you go to a
foreign country it is you feel you don't
feel like you fit in but
that's totally natural
and I have days that German is a lot
easier than English
you know and I'm looking at this and
going you know that makes no sense
unless I'm telling the straight up truth
so you know it is what it is but uh yeah
I can understand how for a normie to be
confronted with
the truth
about everything all at once overlapped
if I would be a bit much yeah yeah what
I mean it was but at the time I didn't
even really believe it either I just
took it all in but I also didn't
I didn't not believe it like it was
I was given at the time of day I was
like it was all very interesting to me
so I listened to him and I knew this guy
and I'm like it wasn't just some crazy
guy like this is Larry we carpooled
together we worked together it wasn't
just some random guy to me and we were
really good friends we laughed together
and stuff so I had to like respect that
end of it
and I don't know but it was it was a
wild time in my life looking back uh
there's a lot going on
that most people have no clue about
the weather is controlled
v2k is a two-way street they do read
your mind while they're doing it you
have
you have constant surveillance
electronically and it's not just through
devices it's also through the v2k and
they do keep a social score here just
like they do in China and if you if your
social score gets too low suddenly you
find yourself unable to get credit for a
house or a job and you find yourself
homeless
and from the outside it looks like it
was by choice but it isn't
and all
it's shutting down
Divergence the movie Divergent was
disclosure a lot of them are most of
these movies are disclosure there's one
um
control Factor that talks about a CIA
project project Satan where they can use
this same v2k technology to Overlay
cancer patients pain on top of people
with nothing wrong with them so you're
going along and you suddenly have
outrageous pain
because they're able to to Overlay the
brain waves on you using Wi-Fi
right they don't have to touch you at
all it's completely by Wi-Fi and so
you've got people being told they're
hypochondriacs and they're literally in
agony and nothing helps because
pain meds don't touch brain waves
especially brain waves that are being
overlaid on you and and that's just one
of the horrors that has been
Declassified this has been going on for
decades and
yes there is a timeline war between
the New World Order and a group of
truthers
and the group of truthers is trying to
maintain what they call the natural
timeline and the New World Order is
trying to take complete control and the
two of them have been butting heads for
at least two decades
and
it's going to reach a point where that
the time core
yes there is such a thing
splits the timeline just to stop the
back and forth
yeah
and
you have to start wondering
because the timeline issues are so in
your face
if you're paying attention if you're not
paying attention you won't even notice
well that's one thing I think that's
becoming more apparent for everybody is
the timeline stuff
and it's
maybe the people don't understand it's
time time lines but they're noticing
these glitches and these weird
happenings and things that don't really
have a place in our reality it's like
what's going on here but everything
everything servicing everything's
changing right now and we're just we're
in sort of we're along for the ride you
know
and and
people like me well I'm noted for that I
served in space with the Germans
but when I start talking about stuff
that's happening on Earth they freak out
it's like how do you know about that
well I've been a truther
for what's today called a truther since
I was old enough to understand that JFK
was assassinated as part of a coup
d'etat
and I was in junior high which would
have made it what about
about
1965
68 that range I've been a truther ever
since I've been one of the people that
researched all this crap
all this time and I kept files
yeah so
if you don't see files of it I was
friends with Jim Mars before his death
this is the kind of people I have hung
with and my testimony about serving in
space was on top of that Foundation
right so and I've shocked a lot of
people because I'm not a political
conservative
I happen to believe that both parties
are
are wings of the same bird of prey
eating the people alive
right they do different evil things
right that's how it's been that's why
that whole political arena is Just an
Illusion though we call it the movie or
the show or whatever yeah that's why we
don't we always tell people not to feed
that because it is quite literally a
distraction from everything and they
want you they're they you know they
create these trigger events that get you
to emotionally react to certain
situations and they want you even like
even stuff in the alternative media it
happens all over the place like this
whole thing with Alex Jones now being
charged with billion dollars for
spreading misinformation they know that
everyone that's going to infuriate
everyone to get everybody triggered and
mad and emotionally to react and
everybody is making videos about it and
post about it they know that it's a
freaking typical Playbook technique it's
so in your face and people take the bait
every time I mean it's funny they do
every time they take the beat it's
standard divide and conquer techniques
and when I'm teaching someone from the
ground up the first thing I make them do
is read
Edward bernay's book propaganda
I've never read that but I understand
that that you can get it for free on the
internet right I mean come on it's it's
PDF
City
you and it teaches you the techniques
that are used to mind control the
population through advertising
and he was singing Freud's nephew
yeah
they the whole advertisement
manipulation thing is very real very
real it's very real and it's it's gone
on for a very long time and I was I am
actually surprised that they still let
us read the book I mean they've tried to
shut down everything from George Orwell
so
um I had a copy of 1984 that was on my
Kindle and
Amazon deleted it they said it was it
was um
incendiary
yeah
yeah that's typical for I mean
everything right now the censorship is
rampant you know
so since there's censorship is rampant
if you have something that that is
out there and necessary you need to
start spreading it
uh
there are a lot of things available on
PDF
on the internet people need to go deeper
than the last 10 20 years
yeah that's part of the problem that I'm
seeing with
the alternate alternative media is
they're only going back 10 years or less
if it's older than two years they don't
want to hear it but yet all of the
foundations for everything going on
there are a century or more older and
they've they have a depth
yeah exactly you have to understand the
rules of it if you don't understand the
roots of it it doesn't it's not going to
make sense to you like exactly right put
it all the pieces together you have to
really step back and get like a galactic
perspective sometimes too and understand
what's been happening from a higher
level this whole time and then you look
around you're like okay now it makes
sense why things are the way they are
but if you don't if you don't have that
knowledge or that background at least
somewhat you're gonna be confused by
what you're seeing on the world stage
yeah
yeah and even in in the disclosure
movement a lot of people are only
looking back the last five to ten years
they've completely forgotten that the
disclosure movement
started
with a theosophists in the 1800s that
there were
sightings of
for lack of a better term spaceships
in the late 1880s in the United States
they're all over the they're all over
the newspapers of that era I mean you go
all the way back to ancient times
Christopher Columbus has in his diary or
his journal of CNN UFO I mean they're
everywhere it's part of our history
the Romans called them Shields instead
of saucers and if you look at their
Shields they're shaped like our saucers
yeah so they they go back to ancient
times so someone that's looking at the
last five to ten years isn't going to
have any of that depth
and they're going to look at all of this
like this is shocking no it's been part
of our history as long as we've been
here yeah
yeah exactly
and so that's why some of the the Famous
folk in our community are saying well
they're no threat to us or or they would
have killed us a long time ago
because they've been here with us all
along
I don't buy into that I think some of
them are a threat
I mean it goes with everything this
Duality and everything like it's just
like and like oh he every human is a
threat no there's good people there's
bad people there's good groups and
there's negative groups in all walks of
life no matter where you go
exactly and each human can be good one
day and bad the next and then back to
good things happen moods illness
injuries you know right no it's tone
there's tones going on especially with
all the technology involved like we were
talking about that they can manipulate
you into doing certain things making you
feel certain ways even depressed in
whatever the case is uh the v2k
technology whatever it is they can give
you false experiences false dreams
that's why even when I have even when I
share my experiences or what I would
call recalls or memories I'm still very
cautious because I know that stuff can
easily be implanted also but you have to
look for like commonalities right but we
have to consider all of that you know
they can literally fly a drone above
your house and and pump in a false
experience into your head while you're
sleeping you wake up and you think
you've visited this group of ETS or you
did something when maybe you did maybe
you didn't like we can't just like when
I share this stuff uh especially like
dream recalls or anything like that or
even sometimes it might be so real it
feels like a real memory and sometimes I
think it is but at the same time like I
I actually don't know how to determine
between the two because I just don't
know but okay but I do
is I use self-hypnosis
and
I go I go into a trance
usually with my partner with me because
he's an Iroquois shaman
and I ask for
the cover memory
for the curtains to be opened and show
me what really happened
because my subconscious actually
Witnesses everything
but it doesn't filter
so if I
open the curtains then I'm not removing
that cover memory it's still there
but I'm seeing what's behind it
right yeah the screen memories yeah the
screen memories so this is how I come up
with different stuff than most of the
others is because most of the others are
accepting their screen memories as the
full story and it's not screen memories
are there to make you think that you are
a hero make you think you were doing
something good to make it where you can
live with whatever it was you really did
yeah so if you are experiencing going
into these programs and you think you're
a hero
you need to go deeper into those
memories because none of us are heroes
well I mean if you're
if you're taken without your consent or
with or without you know even though you
give your consent on some level they
still control you and you you don't know
exactly what you're signing up for I'm
not saying that I I'm a monster although
some of the memories I have
I feel like a monster right but but at
the same time
I know I was taken as a child I know I
was slave labor out there
but I was not doing good things
if I saved a child's life that child
still ended up a slave to the same
program I was in
so how is that a good thing
yeah I mean it's
it's very deep there's a lot of food
yeah there's a lot of depth to it that
most people are just glossing over and
oh yeah I was in battle and we stomped
their asses I'm a hero
right
right I can't stay away from those type
of when I listen to people share uh some
people like to glamorize everything and
glorify as something like they're proud
of and
they are because they've never gone deep
enough to see what they did wrong
yeah I mean you never know I mean I I
can't speak on behalf of anyone and I
I'm no one to tell them that they're
wrong or right or that was a stream
memory or not that's not for me for me
to figure out
let's talk up to the individual so I'm
not I'm not gonna go out and point
fingers and say this person's lying this
person's not when I
camper you know and I don't know yeah
so
um but I'm I'm sitting back and just
watching and that's my general rule of
thumb if you think that you're a hero
you need to go deeper into those
memories
right yeah I mean if anything any
Snippets that I've ever gotten
uh well you heard the last time but
they're just Snippets like I wouldn't
even know if I was a hero or not it's
just like these little it's like this
little out of context memory right and I
don't know what to do with it or where
it fits in like I had this experience
this recall whatever
I was undercover at a baseball stadium I
don't know which stadium and we were up
in one of the Suites and I was
undercover and Hillary Clinton was there
and they were playing a false flag and I
re and the team I was on in particular
was I was there collecting Intel from
that meeting I was reporting back and
and whatever the case was and we were
there to try and stop uh false flag
that's all I knew and we had a team and
everybody was stationed throughout the
stadium and you're certain areas
there was an Asian guy in a meeting that
I talked to
and later on in the mezzanine or the
lobby of this baseball stadium I saw him
again but he was in police attire this
time and I thought maybe he was an
officer and he changed for the meeting
and came back
and I was like hey I started talking to
him and he acted like he'd never see me
before you know I'm like
dude we just talked what's going on and
he looked so confused and then I looked
up and I see a guy that I was talking to
in the meeting coming down the escalator
and I looked I'm thinking oh my God
clone that's the first thing I thought
like this guy's not actually it's a
clone and as soon as he saw me see the
other guy he took off running and I ran
up I don't even know how I did it but I
was able to like completely just
manhandle this guy I put him into this
headlock and I'm screaming at him like
who do you work for who the [ __ ] do you
work for who are you tell me about it
and he was like he's like he said
something I don't remember to name he
said who he worked for I'm like who he
goes you don't know who that is and I
said I said no I'm right and I was so
confused and I realized at that time
like I hadn't been fully briefed and
there was more going on than I
understood it was like this other team
and I finally like let go of this guy
and he he dropped everything his money
his wall everything he unloaded his
pockets and he took off running and that
was the last thing I remember but this
is weird [ __ ] like that like I don't
know if that's a screen memory I don't
know if that's even a real memory but
why do I why do I know about it you know
yeah
there's a lot going on out there and
there are multiple teams from multiple
groups
each group thinks they're the good guys
that was one of the first realizations I
had that made everything make sense
everybody out there thinks they're the
good guys
nobody is saying they're the bad guys
and so you have all these teams that are
fighting to dominate this this situation
and all of them think they're good guys
none of them admit to being bad and the
more I
the more memory I get and the more I
hear from others the more I think it's
just like
just like a third grade playground on a
school campus that they're they're
fighting over pecking order
yeah I mean yeah who knows but I
definitely agree with you as far as
everyone thinks that they're the good
guy and like evil is a perception to
some people like because even the dark
side they think they're doing good to
their agenda they are but then to the
other side they're the enemy I mean that
that goes in all walks of life in every
war everything
yeah that's exactly what I'm seeing is
is instead of a fight between light and
dark I'm seeing a fight between
different groups that are basically the
same
and it makes it really hard when I have
to interact with these these religious
folks who think it's all about light and
dark and good and bad it isn't it's it's
people
right well it's kind of
it's more complicated than that like and
there's so many factions and
and there's just so much involved in
what's actually happening like I don't
know that we'll ever fully understand it
but you just have to understand that
it's not black and white
yeah
I've gotten to the point where it's like
oh I really want is for these Black Ops
to stop kidnapping children
right and that's all I mean that should
be everyone's primary focus right now
um we're getting to the time that you
said you needed to go so you have to run
so do you have any last things you want
to say before we go
no I I don't I I wanted to share that
whole Mars recruitment story and I think
we discussed
plenty and I appreciate uh you let me
come on and share that and I enjoyed
this so thank you
thank you for coming and thank you
audience for listening
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