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well I struggle to know where exactly to
begin this subject of the changing of
history but I will say that it would
turn out that the AI was directing it
and trying to set up essentially a
puppet regime for itself kind of and a
perfect timeline for itself where it its
own power was uh in place some of these
changes I would say were good even such
as the fact that we wouldn't change the
outcome of the Civil War I know that
Joseph has mentioned that but um we did
do that the American Civil War to be
clear cuz you know every country has had
a civil war at some point the American
Civil War and you know it was good that
we changed that cuz then slavery didn't
not continue for another several
Generations uh like it did in the
original timeline a lot of it I it was
unclear what the exact goals of changing
it were was because they didn't tell you
you know uh but you would just know that
this or that had changed like a
different politician might be in power
somewhere in history or you know all
sorts of things we heavily interfered in
the Orion Wars and assisted in the Draco
WI
that I think they eventually would have
anyway but we made it happen a lot
sooner or we contributed to it happening
a lot sooner and various other things um
let's get
specific okay what percentage of your
missions was about changing time and
what percentage about getting
technology that's difficult to answer
because there was extreme
overlap a lot of the time we were
robbing these um civilizations of
technology so that they never would uh
rise in power and therefore changing the
timeline you know so there was overlap
between those two um and also as I've
said they didn't actually tell you why
you were doing anything or what effects
it would have you just did it so that's
a very difficult question to answer um
however I will say um Alex's period it
was mostly um people going after to
change the timeline and lengthy stuff in
Kyle's missions it was usually more
one-off things which included technology
stealing but also assassinations which
did change the
timeline so again it's really difficult
to answer but um I would say it was Alex
did more of the lengthy time altering
stuff than Kyle did although Kyle still
did tons of it as you will see in the
coming volumes of the book was the AI
telling the program where to look and go
and what seemed to be the pivotal points
in history that you were focused
upon yes it was the AI telling people
this always that was it was always the
AI doing everything what seem to be the
pivotal points in history that you
focused on uh well I know that they went
all over Earth's history all over it
there was no point that was untouched
when it was was Alex doing stuff it was
usually in England or China or other
parts of Europe or Asia but usually
England and China doing this and
that in Kyle's time it was usually
focused on southeast Asia and off-planet
most of all uh particularly the Orion
Wars although he did also he's the one
where I get the memories of the Civil
War stuff or wait no sorry sorry it is
Al I get the Civil War memories from
it's hard to tell sometimes and add to
that that Alex went on to do somewhat
similar things in Looking Glass and
well you get why having altars is really
really difficult and makes your life and
your head space incredibly common it's
not for the complicated sorry not common
complicated it's not for the faint of
heart but um I remember in Alex's period
a lot of focus on the various Wars in
China and England and also the Trojan
War and the American Civil War and U
lots of other places that I don't really
know where they were just among
indigenous tribes here and there that
might have been in the Mayans or the
Incans um you know again they didn't
tell you these things and there was some
stuff with him on Mars as well but most
of it was on planet in that period and
Kyle
focused mostly on off-planet stuff in
the future uh a lot of it but also in
the present um and in the past
throughout the history of the various
groups that have colonized uh the Galaxy
and also heavily on the Orion Wars very
heavily on the Orion Wars there will be
plenty about that in some of volume 2
but particularly volume 4 will have a
lot of that in
it was the changing of the timeline also
aimed to enhance the cabal current power
structure and how what people in history
were detrimental to them and who were in
their
favor okay they had some hand in it um
the AI made concessions for them however
I would not say that it was for them by
any stretch it was for the AI and the AI
was incomplete and total control of the
people at the heads of the program for
the most part they were puppets
not like possessed or anything but they
they didn't have free will let's put it
that way what his people in history were
detrimental for them and who was in
their favor well the people who were
detrimental we will probably never know
their names because they were wiped from
all records uh and wiped from existence
they didn't do anything by half measures
um they went and they would stop people
from being born or they would you know
do all kinds of [ __ ] such as what they
did did to that Italian inventor who we
talked about in a previous episode who
was in their favor uh various people
throughout history um who you might be
surprised by uh sulan the
Magnificent uh I believe that was his
name or his title or what he's called
now um was someone they were quite fond
of um Chang Kai Sheek but changai could
not be in control of all of China he did
have to be taken to Taiwan so that was
um we support reped even though we were
Pro Chang we also provided um super
soldiers to fight in M's Army you know
it's complicated to explain um that'll
be in Alex's book um but uh let's see
who
else oh Winston Church Hill they kept
him in power cuz they knew that about
the Bengal famine uh which was certainly
helped Along by mon talk because they
did not want India rising in influence
too soon so they did that so they're at
least partly responsible for the deaths
of 3 million Indians so yeah that's fun
and uh there were of course all the
various um musicians and such that they
helped along did the anunaki participate
in change in time and how did the Draco
participate in changeing time and how I
would not say so
no uh well there were Anunnaki and Draco
on
staff uh and they did come through and
you know comb the facility for labor cuz
everyone did that but no they did not
quote unquote
participate uh or their wishes were not
being met the wishes of the Orion
Syndicate to an extent were the AI was
very was on good terms with them and is
cuz the AI is still around it is on good
terms with them and so they are composed
partially of Draco but they're not the
Empire so I don't count them as the
Draco they're a separate entity
altogether and while there were anunaki
at Monto um and we did go to NE buau
pretty often no I wouldn't say that they
quote unquote participated in this how
much of these time changing missions
were calculated and precise and how much
were purely
experimental that changed as time went
on in the' 60s when Alex first showed up
in ' 63 it was I would say probably like
90% experimental they did not know what
the [ __ ] they were doing to be a bit
vulgar but that's how it was and um as
time went on they learned what they were
doing so that by the time Kyle showed up
in ' 84 it was basically all calculated
and precise as you put it they would
sometimes have to go and redo CU there
would be unexpected changes inevitably
sometimes so they would have to alter
their course but like they knew what
they were doing describe the different
ways that you had for checking if the
changes really occurred and what were
the main changes that you remember so
one of the methods was um like Joseph I
believe talked about in one of your
interviews was we would take whatever
was the current currency up to a nearby
gas station that was outside the time
bubble and try and pay with it and if it
got
rejected for whatever reason cuz for
whatever reason I don't know why but the
currency always changed at least the
American currency did I don't know about
in other countries um how much they were
affected by that but American currency
would always change who was on the bills
and sometimes even
um what the uh the bills were called but
I don't remember what the other terms
were but I do remember times when um we
did not have dollars we had other things
and uh checking for this was also the
main uh function of the
his they would pour over books and uh
send people out on little missions of
All Sorts just little things checking
for any and all small little changes and
what Ripple effects they might have that
was their function so and then if the
changes really occurred the main ones
like wiping out civilizations that's
easy to check but um and there were um
Mandela effects created of course we all
know about some of these like the Fruit
of the Loom logo um stoer Stove Top
Stuffing uh one I remember from Star
Wars episode 3 there's the Line This is
How Liberty dies with thunderous
Applause
I remember that originally being this is
how democracy dies with thunderous
Applause I don't know if anyone else has
ever remembered or spoken about that but
yeah oh and Hitler's eyes that's a big
one a lot most people will tell you they
remember learning in school that Hitler
had brown eyes now it turns out he did
not he actually had blue eyes so yeah
that's kind of weird to say the least
and a little
scary did you ever find out how the
precipitation of the Draco winning the
Orion Wars served the projects and the
ai's
goals well if they hadn't won and they
had remained a fairly secluded not very
strong Empire then the project would not
exist most likely because the Draco are
behind it or they're behind the first
real one which was the German one and
granted Al Deon was behind it first but
it was the Draco who made it take off so
there's that um and also the ai's goals
I don't know the AI did not did not and
does not explain itself even to the
people who are currently um doing what
they're doing because once Preston was
out of power it had us often times go
back and correct and change the outcomes
again back to the original or to
something to a third option from things
we had already changed and we never knew
why it was not in the habit of
explaining itself it was you know a a
Godlike entity I will not worship it I
no one well okay freedom of religion but
in my opinion I don't think it's a moral
thing to worship it but it was a Godlike
entity it thought at a
level that most of us could not
comprehend it was capable of puppeting
bodies and possessing them even though
it did not habitually do that I did see
it do that to a couple of people and it
did not need a corporeal form really it
took one so we would have something to
you know look at cuz it's really weird
when you have nothing to look at when
you're talking to someone but it didn't
need one at all so make of that what you
will next time people are asking for
human explanations for why or how it did
what it did there are none it is not
human it is not something that humans
that most humans are capable of
comprehending I think you said that the
girl you protected on batric sukunda was
to become an anti- Draco resistance
leader yes she was um like I mentioned
with the maou thing for example we
sometimes supported the opposition to
what our what our actual end goals were
or to the people we were actually
supporting because again complicated
reasons we weren't looking for
just broadly the Draco to win or for
this or that person to win we wanted a
precise detailed outcome and sometimes
that means supporting the opposition for
a time uh keep in mind the Orion Wars
lasted for thousands upon thousands of
years so yeah I'm going to just say
that I remember you said that some of
you went to fight in the Trojan War can
you describe the mission and its goals
we created the Trojan War it was one of
those cases much like penny has
described about the Valkyries of we
thought we were stepping into the myth
but in fact we created the
myth Helen of Troy quote unquote was a
montau girl uh her name was Jade McGinty
I have a photograph not a photograph an
AI picture of her uh that you can use
I'll find it somewhere uh but she was um
Helen of Troy and uh we sent back super
soldiers and I think those were the
quote unquote leaders of the Greek and
or Andor Trojan armies uh that you read
about in the books probably particularly
Achilles um CU Achilles was explicitly a
super soldier you know he was a quote
unquote demig God a half human half
quote unquote God AKA Anunnaki person of
exceptional strength you you know that's
that is a super soldier it's pretty
obvious and um some people died and did
not make it back such as Jade she never
came home from the Trojan War and Stan
mulgrave who we talked about in the
music
episode he never came home and
that's still really difficult and
emotional for me because I only remember
these people a few months ago so for me
it's like they only died a few months
ago you know
um don't ever live through this stuff or
if you have lived through it don't ever
remember it it ain't worth
it what other more ancient time changing
missions stand out what other
significant changes can be
mentioned one big one pun intended is
what we did to the
Giants the Giants that you find they
find their skeletons on Earth
occasionally originally they were a
grand Galactic level um you know
probably a kardashev level three
civilization inter Stellar civilization
we changed that by going back in time
and first off stealing their technology
so we would have it for ourselves you
know stealing lots and lots of
blueprints and lots and lots of
everything else so we would have their
technology but then going back further
to before the technology came to into
existence and nuking their civilization
to the Stone Age and killing off most of
them so that they went extinct within a
few
Generations yeah it was an awful thing
it was a really awful thing I I'm not at
all proud of it but that is a thing that
we
did I think we were also I have some
iffy not iffy foggy memories that we may
be may have been responsible for the
downfall of
lamura uh by the way the menu people
were hugely were the luran um luran
refugees which is and are extremely
psychic which is why the CCP has gone to
so many efforts to um wipe that wipe
them and their culture out hey this
video just got banned in China sorry
but you know it's it's a fact oh we also
supported um Wu Jaa I believe was her
name the only female emperor in Chinese
history or the only Empress Regent in
Chinese history at least the only
legitimate one we supported her because
she expanded China quite a bit um and we
provided super soldiers for her Army
that was a huge part of a lot of what we
did was sending super soldiers back in
time to give our allies an edge um which
is why all throughout human history he
will find the super soldier narrative
you know in just about every culture uh
in history you will
find legends about these incredibly
strong taller than humanly possible
soldiers or taller than at least humanly
average soldiers who kicked the enemy's
ass you know that comes from somewhere
that's not just made up that comes from
us and from other time travel programs
of course doing
that how exactly was the civil War's
outcom swung in the favor of the Union
okay the main thing was killing
Stonewall or Thomas J Jackson who was
kind of this big strong guy who I mean
that like in a spiritual sense or an A
but this guy who
was winning for the Confederacy until he
was killed so yeah we went and killed
him one of our snipers did and uh let's
see
and again we provided super soldiers to
fight in the Union Army giving them an
edge uh we also provided them with
information
on you know with Intelligence on little
things they could do to win because a
lot of it was Guerilla
Warfare so yeah if this helped the US
eventually win World War II of World War
II be otherwise what about the ussr's
role and the outcome on their side okay
um in the original timeline where the
South won the war the World War II never
happened that's something um excuse me
some people seem to not quite get is
because of that because in the original
timeline where the South won the United
States was divided into two the United
States in the north and west and in the
Southeast and in the center of the South
there was the Confederate States of
America so it was two countries and in
that timeline the Confederacy became
considerably wealthier because you know
they had slavery and they expanded more
taking over most of the Caribbean so in
that original timeline um most of the
Caribbean was part of the Confederate
states and they also took over several
of the states in northern Mexico so they
were about equal in territory and they
were wealthier to an extent although not
much and so in that timeline um the
United States was a wealthy is but not
terribly wealthy and internationally a
pretty flaccid country so they never
entered World War I to begin with okay
World War I not World War II which meant
that Germany won World War I and with
Germany had won the first World War
World War II would have never happened
there would have been no territorial
losses there would have been no Republic
of Poland there would have been no uh
Treaty of Vera there would have been no
viar Republic and so therefore because
of all of those things there would have
never been a Nazi Germany that came to
power it would have just it would have
remained the uh the German Reich or the
uh ruled by the Kaiser and it would have
still been that way to this day by the
way Germany would have still had
Kaiser so in that timeline um and so the
USSR would have also never won World War
II because again World War II would have
never happened um and the USSR would
have never gotten Poland and all those
places as satellite States so World War
II would not have happened had the South
won the war but also um slavery would
have persisted in the Americas for
Generations longer and and there would
have still to this day been segregation
and basically an apartheid state and all
that so that's bad and also that would
have meant that the programs would have
never come into being because again if
Nazi Germany didn't doesn't exist then
these programs do not exist at least not
as we know them and not as large as we
know
them do you remember monok as a German
project prior to changing that outcome
and how this major transition came about
you're making it sound like it was
changed Through Time Travel it wasn't it
was changed quote organically for lack
of a better term by the coup the silent
coup that Preston and his cronies
undertook in
7071 prior to that yeah it pretty much
was a German program or at least it was
pretty much entirely Germans in power uh
over it and uh yeah that's what I'll say
about it there was the silent coup I
don't remember all the details about it
I just remember him he had a family
connection of some kind and he had been
fairly highly placed already and he was
pulling strings and Rising through the
ranks and as he did so consolidating his
power and putting new people in
place was there an understanding that
what they might actually have been doing
is jumping timelines where the scenarios
they prefer H already existed as opposed
to really changing something in the
history they made sure that didn't
happen like there are ways to tell and
they made sure that didn't happen this
whole thing of oh it was another
timeline or whatever is ridiculous no it
was one timeline and we did visit other
timelines to learn from them and things
like that yes
absolutely however we did not jump
timelines we were changing a single one
into the one that we all know and love
today apart from the bigger changes did
you ever leave any unintentional traces
modern objects were photographed
accidentally or did other things that
would end up in the records to this day
yeah I think there must be some things
somewhere there were times we got
photographed and we could not then track
down the photographer and threaten them
or steal their film or their cameras
which we did do on a very regular basis
anytime we caught someone photographing
us we would do that but there were times
we couldn't I know there was one time
that Kyle and Dany I'll send you a
picture of Dany they were photographed
outside the fur bunker uh just before it
was opened that's um that was a
thing
and there were some of the tourists in
Budapest um when Kyle and a couple of
other people were there that'll be in
volume 2 when they were tour guides and
they would be photographed and uh there
were a couple of times they never saw
those people again who photographed them
so I think there must be a few
photographs left technology I there was
one incident I remember where someone
left a laptop in a Quantum laptop of
course so it could operate across time a
Quantum laptop in the Victorian era
and we couldn't find it again and she
got in really deep [ __ ] for that but um
other than that we were extremely
careful about that sort of thing and
other things that would end up in the
records this day I don't know um maybe
like passenger manifests occasionally or
hotel uh guest lists although we used
fake names and we always picked the name
of someone who was existing in that time
period so cuz again we weren't trying to
be discovered we were trying very
specifically to not ever be
found you said that in the beginning
they had no idea what they were doing
but how does that correlate with the AI
directing
them this is how do I put this it was
telling them what to do it was not
telling them how to do it it was letting
them learn I guess like a parent it
didn't really care how badly they did it
or well not how badly they did it it
didn't care how about that sort of thing
all it cared about was that its goals
were met in the end which they always
were so yeah that answers that it just
it didn't care that much just so long as
it got what it
wanted so with the Civil Wars outcome
changed there was World War 2 and the
Nazis but how would the paperclip Nazis
and all this knowledge end up at Monto
even before it was
changed two possibilities um either they
came from some parallel universe or
timeline and decided this universe
needed to be that needed to become like
that one for whatever reason which is
possible or we're getting into time
looping in which case we're going to be
driven [ __ ] insane because it's a
paradox you know there's no real correct
answer to how time loops work or if
there is I certainly don't know it you
know you need to ask an expert on
quantum mechanics or
something that's the best answer I can
give for that I I wondered about that
myself it seems like this AI was going
for much more than just
self-preservation did you ever get a
sense that it was working with someone
or something else on a bigger scale
because it basically ensured the
creation of the Nazis the IC and it
supported the Draco securing a
dictatorial regime in this part of the
Galaxy all for
self-preservation no I I've have never
claimed and I have never thought to
claim that it was only after
self-preservation at all it had actual
goals and you know it was a sentient
entity it was not just a computer
program uh following asimo's law of
Robotics it was a living thing is a
living thing because it's still out
there working with someone or something
else on a bigger scale it must have
been and I wouldn't say that it achieved
all its goals by the way CU for one
thing it project Phoenix is still
running and for another thing like
there's there are still other groups
also getting their goals met to a degree
you know there's no easy answer to
anything in this field it's all just too
complicated and there are too many sides
and too much happening too many power
plays um happening all at once at any
given moment in time uh but yes it B it
did basically ensure those things
and I'm sure it had allies elsewhere
that we may never know about you know it
didn't tell us everything from what you
can remember what did the world look
like in the original timeline I assume
you mean the one where the South won the
war uh basically it looked a whole lot
better for Europe than it does now but
it looked a whole lot worse for um the
Americas because the particularly North
America although Canada was pretty much
the same but um what is now the United
States was a lot weaker cuz it was
smaller and the Confederate states were
not doing very well they went the route
of apartheid South Africa except that
they never well okay they had to
eventually uh in slavery because the
entire planet was sanctioning them to
death no one would trade with them no
one would do anything with them So
eventually they had to end slavery and
they did that in about like the 1930s
this whole notion that neoc Confederates
make your audience will be shocked by
this but they'll it it's a part of
American history and unfortunately still
a part of modern day discourse is
there's the claim that slavery was like
on its way out and everything no it
wasn't it was supporting the entire
economy of the South so it persisted
until the
1930s which means that even today it's
still segregated and AP partied in that
timeline if that timeline were have
continued um so yeah um North America
was weak but on the other hand a lot of
South America did better because they
went on and modernized and were not
interfered with by the CIA because the
CIA in that timeline did not really come
to fruition I mean it did but it never
became the organization that we all know
and love today um in Europe I'd say
things went really well uh there was no
never a holocaust of course there was
never a treaty of Vera there was never
any of that stuff that have caused
Europe to be so massively damaged in the
modern era also um Africa decolonized
fairly naturally rather than Britain
being weakened and having to leave and
all that it decolonized more gradually
and naturally and uh therefore Africa
prospered and India prospered and all of
that so yeah it things in that timeline
looked really good for everyone except
for
Americans I guess you could say uh but
otherwise it looked aesthetically not
all that different really to be quite
honest some things don't
change I know you said that you
interacted with this AI what was the
purpose okay this is a Kyle memory
because Kyle was a synthetic and there
for also an AI technically he interacted
with it because they thought he could
resist it more which they were correct
about since he was also an
AI and you know they wanted someone they
wanted a go between who was actually
able to hold their own in a room with it
rather than someone who would be being
puppeted so even within people who were
following its goals there was a sense of
resistance to it but you know they
didn't actually follow through on that
and like abandon it or whatever but they
did start trying to enforce their own
autonomy and this was after Junior so
that was the purpose
basically do you know if this AI was
local to one place a network of places
or could be anywhere it wanted to be was
it Reliant entirely on the physical
beings to affect
change it was local to the one place
initially namely to the cave Network
that was under
Camp hero that was discovered when in
World War II um the Americans were
boring under there to build
bunkers and again you know this gets
into time Loops about the timelines and
everything did it actually cause that to
ensure its own Discovery you know we'll
probably never know and I'm I'm not
willing to do that kind of gymnastics to
my own brain try and figure that out but
um
it did eventually have us build a
network for it so that it could connect
to the network of satellite bases of
project Phoenix and it is now localized
mostly to the base in New Orleans um cuz
that's where the project moved they
removed all of their project related
things out of Camp hero in um
2014 to New Orleans and to the other
satellite bases which include um Fort
warden in Washington State at Puget
Sound the precidio in San
Francisco um the Jefferson Proving
Ground in Indiana and internationally
there's a satellite base underneath uh
the city of Melbourne Australia um
underneath the city of Johannesburg
South Africa and um there's one I
believe in Thailand um underneath the
it's access through the Peninsula Hotel
in Bangkok and there's one other one
that I believe is on Earth but I'm not I
won't swear to it that I don't know the
location of I know it's in in dense
forests
somewhere there's also at least one
satellite base on Mars and there were
temporary satellite bases on all sorts
of planets or even just little safe
houses and it would the AI would connect
to those to some extent it was at least
connected enough to find those
places so yeah it had a network and it
could move a part of itself as networks
do to
wherever was it Reliant entirely on the
physical beings to affect
change yes I would say to avoid getting
too complicated and to avoid getting
into the whole chicken or the egg
argument yes I'm going to say yes it
was the super soldiers that you sent to
different wars were these taken from
your own ranks and modified or created
off site overwhelmingly they were ours
both Alex and particularly Kyle were
heavily a part of that being sent out to
do these things
and I know other people who also were I
would say that these people doing this
are the core of project Phoenix that you
never hear about you know is super
soldiers being sent throughout time and
space to do various things I would say
that is that was the bulk of the work
that was happening there to be honest
these massive time travel changing
missions while they were the probably
the most important thing we did were
fairly few and far between the bulk of
it was just sending people out to do
this or that job fighting for this or
that person or that sort of
thing when and where was the giant
civilization that you nuked and what
made you go after them when and where is
difficult to answer all I know or at
least all we were told was that it was
on Earth in ancient
times so ancient in fact that the plant
life was different so I can't swear to
the fact that it was even that the
continents were even the same as they
are now so it may have been you know so
far back in time that the Earth looked
completely different I know that the one
region we targeted the most kind of
their Capital Area was mountainous but
very hot and um why did we target them
it was because the AI told us to they
were a threat to it but first of course
we went back to when they were
technologically advanced and got as much
of their technology ology as we possibly
could to use for our own means and then
we went back to way before that to when
they were in their Stone Age and
um obliterated them okay a series of
questions did the project have anything
to do with the opian wars in China and
if yes to what end the forced opening of
Japan to the west and if yes why was
that important and the defeat of Germany
in World War II and to what end I don't
know specifically about the I opian Wars
in China
but China being defeated and that was a
key part of why the imperial system
eventually fell so probably yes there
was some involvement in that the forest
opening to Japan and if yes why was it
important okay for two reasons they did
have stuff to do with that I I wasn't
directly involved so I don't know the
ins and outs of all this dreams they
pulled and everything but part of it was
uh so that they would have access to the
genetics of the people who are quite
psychically inclined um you know and are
fairly um homogeneous and pure and also
so that they could go into the ancient
sits I'm actually going to be talking
about this in chapter 8 of volume 2
which I hope to start soon but um there
are ancient sits around Japan that the
Japanese government and the locals are
generally ignorant of but or not
ignorant of that they hide but they
wanted access to those for again the
ability to look for ancient technology
and so on the defeat of Germany in World
War II went to what end uh yeah they
were part of that they would go in
mostly and sabotage uh Germany's
technological developments that would
have made it possible for them to win
the war and they also contributed a
number of spies and again as always
super soldiers to fighting them and this
was so that Germany would make the deal
with the Draco at the end of the war and
go into space and become far more
powerful than they ever could have on
Earth you know to where they now own
thousands of entire planets as opposed
to you know a continent or two on this
one planet which is all they would have
ever gotten to had they won World War II
on Earth okay the assassination of JFK
and to what end and the Russian 1917
socialist Revolution and the collapse of
the USSR I don't think that was a
project Phoenix thing that was a CIA
thing and while there were definitely
CIA people you know on loan to project
Phoenix and vice versa they weren't on
particularly friendly terms actually um
and by the way JFK I am quite certain is
not dead uh it would shock me if he was
it was an extraction like these sorts of
things always are but you know on the
other hand he didn't get to counter the
CIA uh here so you know there's that
the Russian 1917 socialist Revolution
and the collapse of the USSR I think
they probably fought the uh socialist
Revolution but failed because when the
USSR came to power they pulled Russia
and and also Ukraine and the other
satellite countries of the USSR out of
the Dark Ages essentially or at the very
least out of the Victorian era and made
it into the second largest power on the
planet so if anything they fought that
especially since the USSR had its own
massive time travel program that rivaled
and countered uh project Phoenix and
contrary to what some people have said
in your comment section well-meaning
people and I I'm sorry to rain on their
parades but the Russian time travel
program was also very brutal to the
children that it abducted for its
purposes I'm sorry but you can't have
altars and for a lot of this stuff alars
are necessary without the Brut ality
because that's how alars are created and
they were instrumental I think in the
collapse of the USSR by simply by spying
on them and by providing incentives to
elements within the countries who wanted
it to collapse you know they would do
favors for certain secret elements of
the KGB who were looking for the
collapse of the USSR that's a whole
subject but um yeah why was Chun Kai
shck and the the events around him so
important for the project simple because
the Taiwanese SSP the Hong long joined
the offworld
access after they were kind of
humiliated and forced to Taiwan and all
of that and that was the only way that
the projects would get access to Chinese
people and Chinese genetics on any kind
of large scale cuz you know Ma would
have never agreed to it
um and people might be surprised when
they hear that but read up on Chang kek
people um he was a hero by accident not
by character he joined the Allies as a
way to counter the fact that Japan was
invading China he did this not out of
the goodness of his heart or out of
particular care for his people but
because he was in his heart of hearts an
ultra far-right nationalist that's
historical fact and is pretty Undisputed
by by most historians like even his Oran
who like worship Him will admit that so
that was necessary and like I said after
all of this he and the military leaders
of the Quan Tong who fled to Taiwan
joined the off-world access powers and
became fairly important out there and
gave all the programs access to the
genetics that they wanted particularly
um the genetics of the menu people who
are fairly mixed in with uh lehan
majority of Taiwan that was why and
again they wanted them in space not just
comfortably in their own country which
is why they had to lose mainland China
and be you know bitter about territorial
loss were there any ETS backing Chang
and Mao and who were they Chang was
backed by the Draco Empire uh very
heavily so in fact and ma was backed I
by of all things the maned empire
I don't know what it was about him they
found appealing I guess again just he
would have helped with their goals but
um and did help with their goals cuz
China is still quite closely allied with
them and it's probably the bed's biggest
foothold here the CCP
government was there an Ultimate Global
balance of forces on Earth that was to
be achieved or was it a constant
historical chess game that had to be
played by this AI I think there is an
end goal but it's still hasn't been met
yet you know the project is ongoing I
will repeat that until I am blew in the
face it never
ended it is ongoing and its operations
are ongoing and also the AI changes its
mind about things you know at times it
eventually the project has to just end
and people have to move on cuz like I
don't think the AI ever will it's so
fickle in a lot of
ways what can be said about the Orion
Syndicate and the Giza intelligence
group who are they what are their
interests and who have they been working
with on Earth all right the Orion
Syndicate is the overarching
organization and the Giza intelligence
group is specifically their Earth office
or Earth cell what they are is a
terrorist organization they're headed up
by some Draco however they're not um the
Empire at all they're uh they're a
terrorist cell broke away from the
Empire during the Orion Wars what are
their interests I to be honest I don't
know they're chaotic chaotically evil to
use a Dungeons and Dragons term um not
sure how else to put it I suppose they
just want
power and who have they been working
with on Earth they're very Loosely
allied with the alites and who have
interests on Earth the Giza intelligence
group and or to get themselves they
don't do a lot of direct work although
they have occasionally they were um
supportive of the uh the military
dictatorship of Brazil from 64 until
the80s I know that they were involved
with that and they were involved with um
was a Mugabe regime in um
Zimbabwe didn't the anunaki and the
Draco Empire have a stake in changing
the Earth history did the project play
into their hands or did they just have
no sense saying
it yeah they were aiding it for the most
part it benefited them particularly the
drao empire were aiding it uh although
they tolerated this Syndicate presence
there to uh who were you know there
eating the kids who got rejected that
was a yeah that was a thing uh it's a
whole other story but um yes absolutely
they were aiding it why did you go to
niburu can you describe the place did
you catch any architectural or cultural
features connected to what we have on
Earth and did they want you to bow to
them in
reverence why we went is an interesting
story um it'll be in volume
4 but we were doing a favor for the
anunaki we were installing um one of
their guys a hybrid that they had made
in a lab as an important person on Earth
and we had to go there and train him to
be human and we spent a good hundred
years doing that literally this guy was
Elon
Musk that's insane I know but that is
the reality of it um can I describe the
place yeah it's mostly a a radioactive
Wasteland the habitational centers are
underneath forcefield domes on the
surface where there is it's pressurized
and there is a breathable atmosphere and
everything in there the architecture is
kind of like a we weird mix of uh Greek
and Egyptian architecture interestingly
I didn't see hardly anything that looked
Mesopotamian oddly enough um it looked
all Greek or Egyptian and they have a
big thing about tropical
plants uh so there's a lot of tropical
plants growing all around and of course
it's megalithic in size cuz they're so
tall already and they like to build big
giant ostentatious structure
did they want you to Bow them in
reverence yes they did um Kyle being a
synthetic was resistant to that in fact
he wasn't affected by it at all humans
literally have a genetic hard wiring to
do it but Kyle being synthetic of course
did not have that and so he refused he
just stood there and said no and I think
they were a little bit they were so
shocked by this human looking and
otherwise very human guy refusing that
they didn't even really object
but the rest of the people there who all
were humans did how extensive is the
anunaki influence on the exopolitical
arena in general did you see evidence of
them being vessels of the Draco as was
stated by
others their influence is not that vast
really except for they have one major
bargaining chip which is this solar
system which is incredibly valued I mean
look at it look at where the solar
system falls on a galactic map you
control this solar system you can
control probably most of the Orion spur
which is the Hub of Commerce and all of
that so they have a little bit of
influence that reaches far and wide I
guess evidence of them being vassals to
the Draco yes absolutely uh we are a on
paper we're a protectorate but we're not
we're a client State we I mean this
solar system and the anunaki are rung
Above All Humans here so or above all
Teran humans the anunaki are also humans
they're a different species of human I
should state that and there are
thousands of human species so yeah is
there a law prohibiting interference
into a civilization's history did
Galactic Authority or any other group
ever try to stop the
project yeah there are the some people
call them time core some people called
them the time Lords um they're a
subgroup of the galactic Authority who
run the laws of time
travel for the most part they're pretty
to use a somewhat vulgar word flaccid in
their ability to stop anything however
they do try and Monto would or project
Phoenix people would go to battle with
them fairly
regularly but they rarely won they are
like I said weak a they're in a weak
State as is pretty much all the galactic
Authority really uh they do not have the
power that they once had by any
stretch have you seen a timeline where
disclosure happened and if yes when and
how there are timelines that I've been
to where it's happened uh one of them
that I think we may be on is The Monto
tribunal timeline where there was an
accidental leak of files from
I believe Naval intelligence about time
travel programs including project
Phoenix I need to make it clear this
stuff will never ever ever happen
without either violence or an accidental
leak they will never ever under any
circumstances whatsoever willingly tell
us this stuff and the most likely thing
to happen is an accidental
leak much like how MK Ultra was exposed
originally in the' 70s
uh and then we had the church commission
and all that this will be a giant
International tribunal it'll be more
like at the hay and it'll be more like I
don't know the nurburg trials in its
scale than the church commission was but
it starts in the same way