yeah i guess that's kind of a clunky
title the
19th well this one's better the 19th
century development in emergence
20th century breakaway civilizations
those are my uh credentials
up there for those of you who don't know
who i am or what i was or
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this that or the other so um
i'm gonna jump right in
what i'm gonna do here today is
basically introduce a lot of you to some
material that you know you've probably
never heard of or never really thought
was connected with the uh
the breakaway civilizations and such
that we're talking about because a lot
of what we talk about is
here at this event is 20th century and
and now 21st century and some folks had
no idea
that this stuff has its origins
you know over 150 years ago it was
startling to me when i realized
how much so let's proceed
now the first point i want to make is as
you see
the breakaway civilization as popularly
discussed is not
the product of nazi germany it is not
the product of the post-world war ii
military industrial complex
and it is not the product of reverse
engineering of an et craft
however i think all three of these
things
are the product of the 19th century
breakaway emergence as i like to refer
to it
and i'm going to present to you
some evidence on that and only three
lines of evidence
the evidence i'll be presenting as you
can see um have to do with
germans money and technology because
this is where i have found the threads
that tie
all this 19th century stuff
to what we're talking about today here
in 2015
let us start with the germans
the 20th century breakaway civilizations
would not have happened
without the mysterious airship nimza
hmm who were
the nimza where did we hear about them
first
and what's the german connection well
the secret development of airship
technology pursued in the 19th century
by a prussian nationalist cabal and
that's a very specific thing now
they call themselves nimsa is the source
of the emergence of secret space
programs that
we're talking about this weekend and as
you can see
in my opinion in my research i have
found where they have existed
since uh well there's two groups the
american group i think has existed since
the post-civil war era
and the german group which existed prior
to
so what is this nimza
in my opinion nimza nymza
which is the word we were given by uh
charles delshau who we will talk about
is a transliteration you can see that
word up there now what is a
transliteration for those of you who
haven't studied linguistics or a foreign
language or anything a transliteration
is essentially
when you want to convey the proper
pronunciation
of a word in one language
by a proper pronunciation of a word in
one language
by speakers of a different language and
what you
commonly do is take the alphabet used by
the speakers that you're aiming that
transliteration at
you use their alphabet in their
pronunciations
to pronounce the word in the original
language
so therefore what that means is the
spelling the actual spelling of that
original word
is not the spelling of the
transliteration
okay so therefore in this particular
case
nimza as it's written in the source
material which i'll get into
is actually in my opinion njmz
small a also pronounced nimza
now as i stated this came from a
gentleman named charles del shall
and he always spelled it in capital
letters well now capital letters imply
an acronym
very often and i think that is so in the
case of the nimsa
which del xiao from the very beginning
said was headquartered in germany
well why is that important well over the
years
uh folks that have researched the
airship mysteries
which we'll we'll also be getting into
further
they've tried to translate nimsa well
what could this possibly be what was
this organization and there was a little
bit of confusion because charles delshau
was talking about a group in the 1850s
the decade prior to the u.s civil war
and he applied this nimsa to that era
but in the 1890s in the material about
the airship mystery of 1896 and 97
nimza comes up and also the mention of
investors secret investors from the east
or new york
specifically so therefore it was very
common to want to translate
uh nymca nimza to mean
new york something or other and
the most common one the one i think was
a pretty good try
was the new york motor zephyr
association
and a lot of the translations of nimza
got stuck on the ny and this information
from 40 years later about new york
investors
so they assumed that ny had to have
meant new york
new york new york something or other
well when you go back to
del shal who himself was a german
immigrant
he had insisted it said originally that
nimza was headquartered in germany it
was a german organization so i thought
to myself okay
the translation should come from
the german language in my opinion so
this is how i came up with
this spelling of nimza what does it mean
you guys can all hear me good right okay
well after uh several hours and
looking at things all the possibilities
and with
a lot of help from you know friends more
familiar with the german language than i
who
also had assistance from german native
speakers i came up with
as you can see the nationalistic
and pardon my german pronunciation if
it's
not too good so what does this mean
right these were the german words
that these helpers i had some german
natives
said were a good fit for what i was
trying to convey
so what it means in literal
translation nationalistic is nationalist
and that's important to make that
distinction it's a nationalist
not national remember national would
imply that it's official in some type of
government capacity right
national list is a little bit more
specific and we'll be talking about who
these nationalists were
momentarily jagd flugzig
if i'm pronouncing that right literally
means
hunting slash flying object okay
and moshkin and of course machines and
zollingsomt
payment office or department well
that's kind of clunky nationalist
hunting flying object machines payment
office
wow okay that's a mouthful so how would
we put that in today's vernacular now
being a air force officer and being
around that world
i know how the language goes there and
and i know
how we would uh translate this
to be a little more understandable to
what we're talking about here
and this is what i came up with
nationalist nationalist that's pretty
easy hunting flying
object based on what i knew in my
research and what this organization was
about
i determined that hunting flying object
really means what we would call pursuit
exploration
okay and machines
we would refer to we'd be a little more
specific we wouldn't say machines
we're talking about flying objects here
so airship okay
and we would call it a program office
those of you who have worked in um
program development in the military will
recognize that phrase program
office so um
from this lead from del shall that this
was a german organization and from the
material talking about
flying objects dating back to the 1850s
i came up with the nationalist pursuit
exploration airship program
office still kind of clunky but
a little more clear
so who were these guys exactly they were
as i say state here a distinctly
prussian nationalist organization
dedicated to unified germany's global
superiority in active pursuit
of influence and exploitation of the
natural resources and industry of the
americas
that's the kind of phrasing they teach
you when you go through officer training
school and how to
you know title a program you got to come
up with you know what what are we about
you know global power um
and this really in my opinion
encapsulates
who we're talking about and as you shall
see
that's what these guys were about
exactly what you see right here now
going back to the 1850s there was no
germany okay
what there was was were several
uh prussian states and in this
particular era the mid-19th century they
were really pushing
for um unification okay so it was the
early days
of nationalism all right
so what that means is that nimza
was actually a private group
not a national group because there was
no german nation right there was no
national germany so this was a private
group
that was made up of german nationalists
dedicated to a unified germany
okay so that's where the nationalist
distinction
is very important here okay
so again where did we uh where did we
learn about nimzo
to begin with charles a del shao german
immigrant born in brandenburg prussia in
1830
died just over in houston texas
on the 20th of april interesting date
1923.
now it is possible that he was sent
to california as sort of a
spy if you will for the nimsa
organization to report
back on the activities of this
sonora aero club this is where it starts
getting fun
we we all hope right there
is there's charles del shell now
one of the important reasons i'm showing
you the photos here
is when you read about this stuff
a lot of it is you know names on a page
and it reads like apocryphal tales
people are like
what is this flying machines in the
1850s that weren't balloons are you
kidding
you know this del shall character well
you know there's a photograph of him
you know he's a real flesh and blood guy
he lived
and that's him he went to california
in tuolumne county where there's the
gold country there
and he went to sonora the little village
of colombia
and jamestown up there and he
later in life wrote about this
sonora aero club this group of german
immigrants
there's a footstopper who were building
all these
secretive flying machines
so let's talk about them a little bit as
i said a secretive group primarily of
and led by german immigrants
there were a few italians in there
and these guys designed built and flew
as i state rudimentary contraptions
they called them arrows and they flew
them all around the countryside up there
just west of yosemite and this was in
the 1850s
okay in the decade before our civil war
and this was all done under the ages of
this german organization nimza
okay nimza was like the the well they
were the program office as i said before
so they were the ones who were supplying
certain resources
and would watch the progress of these
various groups and we only know of the
groups
that we only know of the group in
california
through del shall but even del shall
refers to other groups in the u.s
and there could have been around the
world but
in this particular case we know about
the sonora arrow club meaning sonora
california of course
in the 1850s
this is an example of one of the arrows
now
later in life in the 1890s del shall
started doing these drawings and
paintings of these things
and he did several books of them they've
become kind of legendary
and at first glance people say they kind
of chuckle a little bit and they go
are you serious really you know what the
heck
um it's important to note that this dome
shape here
okay that's not a balloon okay these
these are not balloons
keep that in mind again
here's another one disappear this these
are these are not balloons
okay
and again these were the things that
were being built in the 1850s
and using a very interesting propulsion
system
there's another one
it what you would almost think that you
got to wonder you know um
he didn't really explain certain things
now
we're going to get into a little bit
this is the
the mode of the motor up here the motor
area up here
and i'll be getting into that a little
bit more
here's another one as you can see there
was even a big spotlight
which is real important when you get
into the 1890s era
they talk about the spotlights and if
you can look at the bottom here
you see this figure with the beard and
the red shirt
that's a depiction always depicted the
same way
okay the same clothes and such that's a
depiction of the man named
peter menace peter menace was the german
immigrant who was the leader
of the sonoran aero club very important
figure in all of this
take a look at this one now
again the 1850s okay and look at these
wheels
now this of course is if you under those
of you are
engineers and such i guess um you know
this is what the wheel looks like this
is in one position but as you can see
down here
this is another position that the wheel
would so it kind of
moves and and the wheels
um they're part of
a magnetic type of device
we're talking about anti-gravity in the
1850s
okay and that's what this all these
wheels represent that's what these
wheels would do
they would serve that purpose and also
for forward and reverse
motion these things did not by the way
just go
up and down they they went up and then
they went
forward and reversed and made turns and
they were very maneuverable much more
than balloons
now we're talking about the german line
of evidence for the connection from the
1850s nimza up to the modern times so
we'll continue with that
uh i quote del shell here at one point
he in his diaries about all this
mentions that prussian officer at one
point
it appears that nimza sent a
prussian nationalist representative
military representative
to
to talk the group into developing these
arrows for military uses okay for the
nimsa
and they didn't want any part of that it
was interesting the sonora arrow club
even though they were working originally
under the aegis of nimza
they seemed to reject
that idea and that becomes important
when we talk about the emergence of the
american group
now what's interesting is that guy in
the red shirt i showed you
it wasn't long after they said to the
prussian representative of nimza
that no we're not interested in
developing this for military uses
that he dies in an accident
and we're told that he took the secret
of the aerotechnology to the grave
and the club dissolved and del shall
departed california and returned here to
texas
where he lived the rest of his life
peter menace was the one who understood
the technology that made these things
fly best
and he was the one who had the secret to
their fuel
they used a particular fuel in their
process
and you know we are to assume based on
dalshal that that was it
when menace died as i state he took it
with him and
it was no more we'll learn otherwise
so what happened after the dissolution
of the sonoran era club in the 1850s
well we watch the development of
you know pushing towards unified german
empire
between 1862 and 1888 we see the rise of
the second reich
and all these historical things that we
know about the internal conflict
in 1881 kaiser wilhelm ii fired
otto von bismarck and he got even
heavier
he pushed germany into an even heavier
nationalism
put germany on the gold standard greatly
began to expand the military
and increased colonization and mining
activity
in south america now this should all
look familiar to you
because you know one reich leads to the
next
and you know this is the beginnings of
what we see
um with the nazis later in the 20th
century of course
so let's look at the activity of the
nimsa in south america
with germany doing these things and
being more active
in let me go back in the colonization
aspects especially in the mining
between 1871 and 1914 was the major
period of known german immigration into
argentina
that's interesting 1871
is when it started germany of course
being on the gold standard and what do
you know as i said before
they were getting heavily into mining
they were looking for sources of gold
right they were on the gold standard
they needed more of the stuff this was
also the period of
south american gold rushes so it all
makes sense when you look at the
historical stuff it's all logical
and embedded in all that is the nimza
doing their thing
and wouldn't you know it there were
airship sightings
during this period 1868 copiapo chile
1880 venezuela in 1897 i add the texas
sighting in greenville
because the pilot tells the witness that
uh
if he helps him deliver some mail or
give them some water for their motor
that he'll take him on a trip to south
america you know and bring him back
you know presumably the same day
1897. okay um
so here we have uh
coincidentally you know all this airship
activity going on
while germany the second reich is down
there
being really active in south america
and it was in the south america thread
that i discovered something that really
came out of nowhere
and startled me but just made too much
sense
and it has to do with these two guys
e.h harriman the legendary
president and owner of the union pacific
railroad
and the the guy next to him robert leroy
parker
also known as butch cassidy what the
heck did they have to do with each other
well let me see here i want to
okay i had switched some slides out so
pardon me for going back and forth
here's the interesting thing
the hole in the wall gang was the most
successful train robbing and
sometimes bank robbing group in the
united states up until
the dalton gang okay nobody could catch
these guys
they'd get in they'd get out nobody
could catch them we all have seen well
most of us have seen the movie and we're
familiar with the famous uh
posse always chain chasing them around
the west right
the pinkerton guys but no matter how
much they tried
they could never catch them well in 1899
parker decided he wanted amnesty he
wanted to change his life
okay so he goes to governor wells of
utah
to discuss amnesty wells tells him that
he really needs to go talk to
the man he's been stealing the most from
e.h harriman
now at the same time in the same period
we know that
e.h harriman was interested in offering
parker butch cassidy amnesty that's a
lesser
known part of the story but it is part
of history harriman wanted to give him
amnesty he even sent matt warner
who was a former outlaw turned lawman to
convey this message to cassidy so here
we have an 1899
the most famous train robber wanting
amnesty
and here we have the guy who can grant
it to him wanting to give it to him
but you talk to any western historian
and they'll stomp their foot
and they'll tell you nope didn't happen
nope
cassidy never met with harriman never
discussed amnesty at all
never happened he just went on being an
outlaw
and they'll insist on that when you look
deeper at the facts
that doesn't make sense
because a funny thing happened after
this
period that we're told no meeting
between harriman and
butch cassidy took place
in 1901 butch
his friend sundance and their pal at a
place well what do they do
they go down to south america they have
no trouble
getting through immigration which even
back then you know there
it was there was administrative this was
not an easy thing to do
but they had no trouble and they just
happen to have the cash on them
to buy 15 000 acres
of choice property in the chubat
province the
little town area called cholila
which as you can see is about a hundred
a little over a hundred miles south
of a place that's really interesting to
us today san carlos de barloche the
future nazi refuge
so let's look at this again
we have all this german activity nimza
as i pointed out looks like they're
active in south america and have been
for 30 years
and here we have e.h harriman of the
union pacific railroad and
and butch cassidy and
you know we're told they never met but
they wanted to meet
and uh then we have butch and his pals
going down there and doing all this
this stuff in argentina buying a wrench
and so forth
this is why i titled this the
arrangement because in my opinion
butch cassidy did meet with e.h harriman
and i think that an arrangement a deal
so to speak was made it's interesting
after this period that cassidy
expressed the desire for amnesty
the gang only robbed a union pacific
train one more time
they never touched another up train
again and then
the gang that could never be caught that
could do no wrong never screw up
suddenly they could do no right they
would go on heists or robberies
and the law would be there already okay
they would find a posse coming around
the corner they would get in
shootouts and what's further interesting
about that
is that increasingly butch even though
he would design the heist and plan it
he would not go with them he would send
the gang to go do it and disaster would
happen
hmm
another thing about butch cassidy people
in the movies don't realize is
he was never known to have killed
anybody neither was sundance
here you have two legendary outlaws
robbing trains and banks and
you know the movies depict them root and
toot in the old west right and
members of their gang particularly
during this bad era
that started happening for them they
were getting in shootouts and killing
lawmen but butch and sundance when you
actually look at the facts
never we're never known to kill anybody
now i spent a few years in federal law
enforcement
and when i read this when i learned
about this i'm looking at all these
facts
and i'm thinking hmm the guys in a gang
a criminal gang
who are involved in all this robbery and
stuff but they're the only ones who
don't shoot at and certainly don't kill
anybody or at least you know
no law enforcement or anyone in my mind
that's the undercover operative
so what did this mean about butch and
sundance and
and our friends well
let's go back momentarily to where they
built their ranch
now as you can see there's
let's see is this working yeah there's
argentina the big picture
so you get a you know there's san carlos
de barloche the red star is where their
ranch was that was where the butch
cassidy ranch was
and as you can see here's barlotte up
here and just you know go a little south
and
there was this ranch they set up in 1901
okay that's what the countryside looks
like so you can see the andean mountains
there
so how is it that this
old west train robber and eh harriman of
the union pacific railroad
who you know if they met made some type
of arrangement why was the arrangement
for butch and his friends to go down to
this particular spot
and establish a branch hmm what's going
on here
and at the same time we have this german
organization
operating in south america could there
be a connection
in my opinion the story of these three
has not completely been told
i've told you about butch and sundance
sundance kid harry longabah was a known
expert marksman again an expert marksman
in a criminal gang that is you know
he doesn't shoot at anybody hasn't
killed anybody in my mind coming from my
perspective as a former federal agent
he's the cop he's the undercover agent
and the lady in the corner had an even
more
amazing story which i get into
in my book empire the wheel 2 friends
from sonora
she herself the evidence suggests to me
was neither sundance's girlfriend nor
wife
she was a secular nun
who was co-opted by the u.s secret
service
there's a there's something you never
knew about at a place right
okay and uh i think
she lies buried today under a different
name
where she was murdered by probably
foreign agents in san bernardino
california in 1915
but that's another story but these are
the three
these three went down to south america
and established this ranch in future
nazi refuge territory
so what does this have to do with
germans we'll get to that
in the money thread
but first let's look at some more
germans
if you're trying to identify who the
german nationalists would be
that would back and support and really
be
this nimsa there are some
i think some obvious possibilities in
german history and we'll start with carl
reichenbach
who lived from the late 18th century
through the sonora aeroclub era
and uh into 1869
now he was a chemist he was a geologist
a metallurgist a general industrialist
and he was a philosopher member
of the prussian academy of sciences it's
basically what you've got here
is the classic philosopher scientist as
the british used to put it
um that of the type that
founded the royal society okay and who
ran the royal society up until 1830
when the bean counters and the the tech
weenies got control of
society and they they didn't want those
alchemists or those hermetices
running anything he was of that stripe
he he would have been the type of guy
who would have said yeah yeah nimza
this this is a good idea
carl kellner is another likely suspect
as far as being one of the movers and
shakers of this
secret nimza group again you see a
chemist
an inventor an industrialist and a
mystic
founder of the oto which aleister
crowley would be
and others be famously involved with it
kellner's the kind of uh german guy
nationalist who would have been all for
and involved with making
you know he would have been in the era
of continuing it from its early days
into the early 20th century okay he
would have bridged that gap
between the sonora arrow club days
through the
airship mysteries of the 1890s
friedrich woniak as you can see another
one who bridges the gap between the 19th
century
into the 20th century right again here
we have
he was into he was an iron and
engineering industrialist
again these are the kind of guys that
would have had the means
right the material resources and such
and the know-how
to build these airships and again
he was a mystic and an ardent
nationalist
remember nationalist is
the first word in nimza
then of course we have this guy
walter rathanau and he's really
definitely one to bridge the
late 19th century airship era directly
to the nazis
an engineer and industrialist chemist
and philosopher there we go again the
philosopher scientist
he was chairman of aeg now that should
be familiar
to you readers of joseph farrell's work
because aeg is has been directly
connected with
the bell the nazi bell mr rathanau was
also
an ardent nationalist and in my opinion
he would have been
you know in his era late 19th century
into the 20th century
uh definitely um
a suspect for nimsa membership as it
were or management
then we have this guy finally homer
shocked
and he very definitely
bridges this 19th century milieu
to the nazis politician and banker
member of the urania lodge
you know there we have the mystics again
and he had started out as a supporter
for adolf hitler but of
you know history tells us that that sort
of
kind of changed maybe um
and uh shocked of course as a banker
um did some uh pretty interesting things
that have already been talked about here
today and will continue to be i'm sure
so
let's review what we have here in this
this german thread we started with this
prussian nationalist period
we have del shao a german immigrant
talking about nimza a german
organization
overseeing the sonora arrow club a group
of german immigrants
okay and this is this is the era in
which
reichenbach would have been you know
part of running nimsa and been
influential in it okay
so there's a historical connection there
to you then we move into the era of the
second rank
industrialists and mystics in this
period we have germans into south
america
we have a german banker
who you will learn connected to harriman
and the whole bit with the cassidy ranch
in argentina
hmm and of course we have the airship
sightings in south america and this is
the period as you can see of
kellner wanak rathanow and shot
okay just to put it in a historical
perspective with these guys
leading into the third reich raphael and
aeg and then eventually the nazi bell
and then shocked of course
so let's proceed
to the money thread who might these
prussian nymsa investors have been okay
during this period
the prussian nationalists were looking
to unify germany and they were looking
for
their national identity so they saw
railroads as a mean to support
both the creation of the national
identity and then the obvious the milit
the ease of greater ease of military
buildup
and so therefore you would have you know
the bankers that would be involved in
industry and particularly railroads and
such
so which german banks existed that could
have
backed an organization like nimsa with
this
this effort we start with baron bird
established in the 16th century it is
the world's
second oldest bank it had branches
that started out with branches in
portugal italy and london
okay that's a foot stomper for those of
you familiar with the
dr farrell's work on the banksters
portugal was a haven for the knights
templar
king dennis during the persecution had
made
portugal a place where they could hide
out he founded the order of christ
and he said all unites templars you're
now in the order of christ
so portugal again was the place that the
templars were and of course we know
their connection to european banking and
such right
and of course interesting that portugal
would
be a part of with prince henry the whole
secret trips to the americas
thing and italy of course that should be
the obvious one venice
was there in london by extension
was part of the whole bankster milieu
and there's berenberg right there and
they were around
for a couple of centuries by the time
we're aware of nimza
and interestingly enough they were
deeply involved in
north american trade and finance so they
were in their early days interested in
you know being over here
and let's go down the list here you have
metzler around since the 17th century
you have tranq house in burkhart which
is now
under hsbc um look at
when these banks were established
they've been around a long time
okay saul oppenheim
18th century the family was married into
the rothschilds by 1834.
um abraham openheim was a buddy of
wilhelm the first
this is the same oppenheim family from
which sprung max
oppenheim who uh very much involved with
nazi issues isn't that interesting
and the list goes on how can offhausher
donor and
russia russia emma warburg
that name again should be familiar to
you because there are the european
warburgs and the american warburgs in
international banking and such berliner
sparcasa and on
as you can see these banks were around
and
they were there and any one of them if
not all of them
as you can see shipping is important to
many of them
any one of them or all of them could
have been involved in
financial and material support of nimza
but we move on in the post
aero club era going into the 1860s
we have the the death of
menace in the alleged dissolution
but again this german banking thread
finds its connection to south america i
think
and at the same time it's important to
know that an american airship group
was just beginning to emerge okay and
we're gonna
we're gonna come back to who these guys
were shortly
but i during this time i think
the nimza began to really focus more on
south america
which brings us back to this place
which evidence suggests was a
refuge for this guy you know
look at the happy bird on his shoulder
just it's one big party
and that's a big view of bar lotion
there okay
that's what it looks like wonderful real
estate
cune lobe many of you have heard of them
established in 1867
here in the united states the founder
was abraham kuhn a german immigrant
at one time his bank he
owned 64 percent of all railroad lines
in the u.s
just as it says up there and uh
had close ties to those warburgs both
the american ones and the german ones
now
what's important about kun loeb is that
he
in my opinion marks the beginning of a
nimza
allied banker which is actually
an american established organization
established here in the states
okay but yet very german and its
alliances to nimza in my opinion
there he is right there abraham kuhn
and how does he connect to all this
directly
well what do you know cune lobe was a
rail baron banker
it was kyun loeb when e.h harriman spent
an exorbitant amount of money to
purchase the union pacific
that supplied herriman with his capital
okay hewn loeb made it possible for
harriman
to buy and run the union pacific
railroad
so you have to ask yourself hmm
the amnesty
that butch wanted the deal the
arrangement i was talking about earlier
they go down to south america and on and
on etc etc and we find out that this
particular
german banker was harriman's guy or
harriman was his guy actually
let's look at this connection here more
visually to make it clear
cune lobe at the top there there's
harriman with his union pacific
butch sundance and etta go down and
establish the ranch future nazi refuge
okay um that's the line that i've put
together
i think that that's what's behind
butch sundance and eta going down to
south america and as you can see
cune loeb ties the 19th century mill you
were talking about here with the
with these germans and with the money
up to the 20th century with the nazis
okay and that puts it in
i hope a clear perspective of connection
abraham kuhn and his company was
involved in financing westinghouse
okay westinghouse of course famously
backed and employed nikola tesla
so there you have kuhn connected to
financing tesla technology
ostensibly uh kuhn's company
his bank was behind western union now
that's important because western union
you know started out as a telegraph
company
telegraphy is very important in this
airship technology in my opinion and
railroaders telegraph companies were
established hand in hand with railroads
okay
so they were often formed by railroad
companies
cune lomb had connections to uh you know
he was a
a banker to the rockefellers and he was
involved
abraham kuhn was involved with chase
bank
okay and personally involved with
otto khan the warburgs jacob schiff
and his family and uh cune lobe also
provided the government loans to foreign
countries
specifically you know oh austria mexico
and venezuela isn't that interesting
again as i said though us-based
i believe that kun loeb was a nemzer
ally but let's continue on
past the the 1860s because it does get
more interesting even
i won't even try to pronounce the top
one but they were around since 1868.
then we come to commerce bank
established in 1870 germany's second
largest
the first chairman was a shipping
magnate
and commerce bank would go on to to be
among the world war ii
gross banking that financed german
military
and uh wonderful organizations like ig
farben krupps and siemens the the things
they did during world war
ii um and uh of course in the 21st
century
they were involved with laundering 253
billion dollars
out of iran sudan and myanmar now when
you think of the
nazi historical connection to
islamic jihad you know that
makes that last one kind of interesting
i think
then we come to these guys deutsche bank
been around since 1870
siemens of the company i mentioned
before
uh was a founder and director okay
um among their first overseas ventures
south america what a surprise right
they were behind the uh the the founding
of the northern pacific railroad and the
baghdad railway so there they are
they're
they're rail barons too bart
they provided bonds to krupp
and they were the ones who brought bear
to the stock market
and bear of course krupp was of course a
munitions
company and bear was involved in human
experimentation during world war ii
deutsche bank was the bank of the
gestapo
they admitted to funding auschwitz not
too many years ago
admitted to that and ig farben
facilities that were in
concentration camps now
i found this interesting they were the
first listing
on the new york stock exchange after 9
11.
hmm that's kind of interesting to me
their headquarters in frankfurt is the
deutsche bank
twin towers right in honor of
you know no
the deutsche bank twin towers has been
around since 1984.
this is it it was we are told
it was originally built to be a hyatt
hotel but then they backed out
and deutsche bank said we'll take it as
our headquarters that's the official
story so this has been their
headquarters
since 84.
and i looked at that i thought
that's kind of an interesting image
there
see i'm a blue lodge mason haven't been
active in years
but when i saw that i noticed that it
looks remarkably like what's called
the dewguard particular as you can see a
stance
that's the royal master stance but
notice his feet
okay he's got the heel and the one
foot's turned out and the one's down and
look over here
see that this would be the legs
and this is the feet the very building
is a masonic do guard it appears
and this is the what we're talking about
here the position so you see if these
are the feet
isn't that interesting
so what are we to think about this
you know a bank to the nazis and
they were around during this this
airship period
in 2001 to 2007 they were found to be
committing corporate espionage
they were involved in the housing bubble
in a cdo scandal
now an issuer of cdos earns a commission
in fees without any residual liability
okay that means
they can establish they can sell these
cdo loans and
um they they make their profit
okay and if it goes bad they can just
sell it to they sell the debt
to someone else and they make their
profit okay
deutsche bank was found to be pushing
volume
over quality they were just pushing
these they didn't care if it was a
bad bet a bad loan they were just
pushing cdos really hard they were
one of the major pushers of cdos during
this period of the building housing
bubble
okay and later they sold off tons of
these
bad loans making a profit
okay now remember look at the era this
is post
911 and it's leading right up to 2008
when everything fell apart
just exactly how much in bad cdos and
bonds did deutsche bank push
into the international market
32 billion dollars in these things
aggressively marketed is the wording by
the authorities
by deutsche bank between 2004 and 2008
okay now remember the bailout here in
the states was only 8 billion
now you might look at this and say you
know like compared to our national debt
and stuff in the trillions you might say
oh 32 billion that's not that much but
you know i i talked with a couple of
professional bankers and
they assured me that 32 billion dollars
in
bad debt like this injected into
the economy and you know that period of
four years would
would make some problems that would have
contributed
and here you have deutsche bank the
former nazi bank
doing this in the post-9 11 world
okay what does that mean
well i happen to subscribe to a theory
that
that joseph farrell has talked about i
mention him again
and you know i'm showing you a line here
of germans connected these 19th century
germans
you know involved with this secret
technology organization
leading into the early 20th century to
the nazis
okay and you know it's not like they
disappeared
in world war ii
in my opinion i think
the nimsa in many ways were really
you know being they were behind the
nazis definitely as supporters
and you know what was deutsche bank
doing
maybe they were just following up
on what happened in 2001 doing their
part
for the continued blackmail as it were
financial blackmail but let's continue
with the bankers with the money
trail and we come to the american
investors now it's important to note
that these american investors
i'm just showing you who might have been
involved in
this this airship technology investment
and development
whether they were allied to the american
group which i'll talk about
or the german group we can't say for
sure some of them might very well have
been
allied to the german group but here you
have bank of new york
they financed wars they were in
engineering and industry
you have brown brothers harriman oh
there's harriman
that name around since the early 19th
century
oldest and largest private bank in the
us citibank of new york now these banks
are still around by the way most of them
well or in a different name you know
citibank of new york
moses taylor was a astor protege which
becomes important later then of course
you had chemical bank now they started
out as a chemical manufacturing company
and that's important when you talk about
this technology okay
again the tie is industry technology
money right
we go to wells fargo bank they were in
transportation express delivery and
telegraph
okay well they would be interested in
you know airship finance right now i
would place wells fargo with
the american group that was emerging
later on
goldman sachs henry goldman was known to
be a supporter of germany right up until
1933 when he
went to berlin and learned about what
the germans were really doing and then
he came away disgusted and it changed
his position on them
then we have zion's bank they were
around during this airship period
established by brigham young
okay they were in the heart of the
airship country and due to the
independent nature of utah itself
i would say that you know zion's bank
might have said hey
finance this airship group thing sure
why not
but let's look at the individuals now uh
jp morgan
connected with of course today's
jpmorgan chase he's the originator
morgan formed general electric and u.s
steel
okay there's industry for you of course
to tell you what kind of guy he was he
paid 300
to somebody to take his place in the
civil war and then he made money selling
defective rifles to the u.s army
great guy railroads engineering
connection to the rothschilds
and in fact when the u.s
treasury needed gold because they were
short he sold them
some of his and he's the guy who
rejected tesla's free energy
and created the pay-by-usage nightmare
that we all live under today
there he is j.p morgan
he has been connected in literature of
the airship
mystery of the 1890s as being involved
with the
the financing um possibly
connected to nimza itself when nimza is
discussed
in that late 19th century milieu again
i'm you've seen him before but i show
you these photos to show you these were
real people
okay john jacob astor iv
uh family patriarch was german-born
uh his father uh
interesting was a a pre-civil war i
think i might have to have that wrong
that might be his grandfather
pre-civil war abolitionist okay
um he was he was kind of different than
his father a little bit more independent
thinking
a little bit more american in his uh
nature and attitudes take that for what
it's worth
um john jacob astor himself the fourth
was a military officer in the
spanish-american war uh
interestingly as i was digging into this
i learned
that he had authored a science fiction
novel about an
airship traveling to another planet
and he turns up mentioned in
the literature of the 1890s airship
mystery you know
as being one of the mysterious new york
investors right that led
people to translate nimza to mean new
york something or other
astor iv was the guy who funded a
gentleman by the name of john warrell
keeley who keeley if you're not familiar
with him was a guy who was a
contemporary
of tesla and was working with
anti-gravity
okay in the late 1800s and apparently
making some headway
there was some scandal some people
called him a fraud but it was never
really proven
that he was defrauding anyone and he was
the darling
of the spiritualist and theosophist
community
now remember i was talking about those
guys who were industrialists and
nationalists these germans
involved with nimza well remember they
were also mystics
and very much into esoterica well keely
was a darling
of the theosophists and spiritualists in
the late 19th century
who were also very good friends with
german mystics
of the period interestingly enough
astor iv decided not to fund tesla he
went with keely
what might have happened if it had been
the other way around
and of course john jacob esther iv would
die
on the titanic there he is he's not just
a name on a piece of paper
that's him in his younger days when he
died on the titanic i think he was
43 or 44 and he had his
i think his you know 20 year old wife or
something it
is you know he was just the rich playboy
type that
liked to have fun but he was also an
inventor he was also a guy that
very much would have been the type to
back
an airship group now whether american
or german it's hard to tell because of
the milieu he moved in
i personally think that astor was
more likely an investor in the american
group
that had emerged
then we have this guy f lewis clark an
industrialist from maine
and that is what puts him on the radar
of this airship mystery because as you
can see
in one of the actual newspaper accounts
from the san francisco chronicle
a man being interviewed who talks
extensively about the mysterious group
building and flying these airships of
the 1890s being seen all over the u.s
and also by the way heavily in this area
here the
the local paper the bastrop paper had
reported in the 1890s sightings of these
airships right over here
well in this interview in the san
francisco chronicle in 1896
the interviewee talks about a mysterious
and investor from maine
the state of maine who had been out west
for some years
and the the closest i could come up with
was this guy f lewis clark and he came
up in my
other research he was kind of already
there and he was a mystery because
clark himself allegedly was dying
we're told this and he disappears from
santa barbara in 1914
we're told that he kisses his wife
goodbye and walks off the end of a pier
and they know this because they found
his hat floating in the water but they
never found his body
ever he's a mystery
i as you can see think that uh he
possibly faked his death
and how i learned about this guy was
because
he i think did it again a year later
this is the only known photo that can be
found of
f lewis clark
i write about in empire the wheel one
an investigation into a cult murder
and espionage that f lewis clark was
possibly a gentleman whose remains were
found on the side of a hill
the elements had weathered the body so
much that it was
physically unrecognizable and the only
way we know that
that that body was who they claimed it
to be
was because in the soup pocket there was
his id
right so it must be this gentleman named
o
h bailey which i don't think was his
real name
in my opinion this bailey
who was unrecognizable when they found
his body
was very possibly f lewis clark's doings
and was not the body of clark i think
clark faked his death again
to disappear forever you might be
looking at the face of a man who
actually decided to go off
with the breakaway civilization and live
wherever it is he lived
for however many years after that but he
remains
a mystery and was very probably
an investor in the american
airship group
so let's look at technology
i put this up here to finally make it
clear to you what i mean i've been
talking about
you know what's this 19th century
technology okay and how does it connect
to the 20th century well
here you have this thing here you have
the 1850s arrow
by charles del shell okay this would be
the equivalent of
the model t right a rudimentary proof of
concept
thing all right and then the 1890s
airship a little more sophisticated
but kind of like a 58 buick okay now
compare the 58 buick to the model t and
you see the progression
okay and then of course we have the
famous you know i guess that's the s4
model
or whatever and that's a 1985 porsche
so you can you can see what i'm talking
about here when i say the
the 19th century thread that connects
this airship mystery to the modern
technology
pretty clearly i think with this and
i'll show you that again
shortly so the american group
1862 to 1865 you had this period
involving solomon andrews he
demonstrated
an airship he designed called the aeron
to reporters of the new york herald
three times he met with abraham lincoln
who was so impressed
he ordered congress and his secretary of
war edwin stanton
to make a determination on you know
building these things acquiring them
and this is all documented by the way
sanders was a
andrews was a real guy and he really met
with lincoln and
stanton and he really did show this
airship it was not a balloon
it's important to make that distinction
and i want to go back to when i talked
about the airship sightings in south
america i wanted to mention that
you know back then the way these things
were described they were not balloons
people knew what balloons were
in the late 19th century they knew the
difference and they
never these witnesses never described
these things as balloons
okay as you can see here um
congress called for the immediate
acquisition but we're told that
edwin stanton rejected it but again
like the whole amnesty thing with butch
and harriman
did stanton really reject it there's
evidence to suggest he did not
and that the u.s secretly
began to develop these things and i have
to credit olaf phillips for
uh identifying that this was the first
black project
i think it was olaf who said that
earlier
this is solomon andrews there he is he
really lived he's a real guy
okay so these are the kinds of things
you don't hear too much about
you know this is in the 1860s that this
guy
demonstrated this flying machine
you know anti-gravity so to speak
but then uh we move on to
colonel samuel tillman a united states
army officer a
chemistry professor that's important
remember
this guy was a past commander of west
point okay you can look him up
astronomer engineer science officer and
explorer of the american southwest for
the us army
a founding member of the cosmos club
okay these are the guys that formed the
national geographic society
and tillman wrote books on chemistry and
geology and such okay
there he is another real guy
okay he existed
he had the the background that
interestingly ties in with
the details of this whole airship
mystery
then we have amos dolbear phd a
doctorate from wesleyan he's a professor
okay at the university of kentucky
bethany college tufts college
dolbear was a designer and builder of
gyroscopes he worked with residents in
electromagnetism
okay he was invited to the paris expo in
1881 and then the crystal palace
exposition in england in 1882 this guy
was known
and respected very much he
built things that bell marconi and hertz
were sued by him for because his stuff
proceeded there's the telephone the
you know the wireless and and all this
other stuff that belle marconi and hertz
were famous for
andrews was working with or i'm sorry
dole bear amos dolbear was working with
this stuff already
so what do tillman and dole bear have to
do
with the airship mystery there's dolbert
he really lived he really wore that
beard
um
the dallas morning news and the
galveston news in 19 april 1897
reported an airship sighting seen by
many people
okay it landed at stephenville
22 witnesses including now a lot of
people over the city
saw it but at the landing there were 22
witnesses interviewed
they included a judge and a senator
we're told that
you know senators are respect
respectable but
you know you can decide that for
yourself uh
the pilots identified themselves as
dolbear and tillman
okay they were allegedly the crew
members on this thing the pilots of it
they said that their expedition was
backed by new york capitalists
talked about those a little earlier
right it was described as their craft
was described as cigar shaped 60 feet
long
and had a wheeled apparatus that helped
it fly remember the thing i showed you
from the 1850s that del shall drew with
the wheels
and they they said themselves that it
was electric powered
now this is in 1897.
okay you have two guys
with the qualifications that i showed
you that
uh they're allegedly flying this thing
around
openly showing people you know hey take
a look this is how this works that's how
that works
then we come to the wilsons now anybody
who has
really delved very deeply at all into
the airship mystery
and some of the strange things with ufos
into the 20th century you are familiar
with the wilsons
okay they are a big mystery themselves
my mentor once told me in the 90s when
wilson first
crossed my path i asked him who who's
wilson
and he said wilson is the most brilliant
man you've never heard of
and he in the way he put it too he said
he's the most brilliant man alive
now i learned about him when my father
had
been hospitalized with a blood clot he
was in the air force in the 50s
and he was heavily sedated and he was
jibbering about some stuff from his air
force days
and that's another story i won't go into
it but he
mentioned wilson wilson wilson this
wilson that and that's what prompted me
to ask the question and as i said that's
another whole story but
the wilsons are in the middle of this
airship milieu starts with
a tosh wilson who del shall describes as
being in the sonora arrow club itself
okay so there's a wilson in the club
then you have willard and hiram his son
okay they were prominently mentioned in
the 1897 airship news reports
okay and and uh hiram was even a more
brilliant engineer than his father
you have the mysterious professor hiram
wilson who possibly could be the
the uh whoops the other hiram wilson
but more likely maybe his son and then
you have the mysterious wilson who's
involved with the stuff from 1950s to
1990s so
here you have in what appears to be one
family
a bridge a thread from the 1850s
airship mystery club through the 1890s
and into the 1990s okay that's a major
threat
connecting this stuff the the 19th
century into the 20th century
who who were they who knows who are they
there
might still be one out there
let's move on to the technology itself
here are the arrows again as depicted by
del shell as i showed you
this one here on the right this shows
you it landed
and uh there it is in a
it's off the ground there but you can
see these arms here they lift up and
they have to do with maneuvering and
lift and such but this is this is del
shall showing you
in the 1890s drawing what these things
looked like in flight in the 1850s
okay
according to del shall the arrows were
powered by a secret powder mixed with
water
this liquid product was dripped onto a
special drum
the liquid turns to something peter
menace only referred to as
nb gas this chemical reaction
caused the drum to spin which powered an
air compressor was how he put it but i
don't think it was a
air compressor in the sense we think of
and this
process or apparatus resulted in lift
and propulsion
okay that's del shal's description of an
1856
aero motor
this is from an article in the houston
post the 22nd of april 1897.
in which the pilot wilson
explained that the source of gas supply
was in air
passed through a condenser containing
certain chemicals the process of which
only wilson
knew about this sounds like the secret
that peter menace allegedly died
and took to the grave you know with him
this sounds like the same stuff
to me so we have a wilson in the sonora
aero club in tosh wilson and now we have
a wilson
in the 1890s explaining that he's using
virtually the same process but let's
look at this
as you can see you have there's the drum
okay
there it is again and this spins and
these little drops here this is the
this is the fuel the liquid product um
it would be dripped slowly on the
spinning drum
and you have a spinning drum
with a liquid applied to it i thought
that's that's kind of familiar but let's
look further
then i came to this the generator cone
the generator cone was
formed using wire and paste
you know like you would do almost like
paper mache on steroids
and they'd mix these metal fillings very
often copper
okay and they would take um this rawhide
and shape it into a particular shape
and they would use this paste as i said
like paper mache or whatever over
um this rawhide okay cut out to
a certain shape and this cone once it
dried and hardened
the way it worked was it spun on a
central axis
to which it was fitted on the arrow on
the craft
and the secret fuel was applied to it as
it was spinning
up through the central axis and this
powered and propelled
the arrow
hmm let's take a look at it
that was drawn by delshau in the 1890s
when i saw that called a generator cone
it has rotation it has a liquid
applied to it i thought oh that that
sounds familiar
why could it be
this is what i think the generator cone
was a
proof-of-concept early rudimentary
attempt at the same technology that the
nazis would pursue with the bell
it's even bell-shaped okay
if it were shaped like a star or a
square or a zebra
i could see someone saying oh no no
that's not that's not anything to do
with the bell
but it looks like a duck and quacks like
one right there
okay so you know and if you wanna
go even further you know
in the post-world war two era we had the
kecksberg situation
and golly what did that seem to be but
in my mind what kecksburg was was
you know either a captured bell or they
captured bell technology and they were
you know playing around with it and it
was an american object and such but
i think the thread of connection where
they got this stuff
started with the sonora aero club and
what menace
knew and what they were doing in the
1850s and through the german nimza
connection
led to led to the nazis developing the
bell
okay the the engineers who developed the
bell had to get the ideas from somewhere
i mean it came from you know more than
one source but
in my opinion nimza was very much
involved
nimsa representatives were very much
involved in the
development of the nazi bell
and there you have evidence
connected back to a german group fooling
around with the
anti-gravity and lift and stuff the
kinds of things that are associated with
the nazi bell
hmm what are we to think about that
so
in the 1890s we're talking about ship
lengths that were
you know several feet long in some cases
130 feet i think there's one mention 175
feet long
these work with geared wheels and
flywheels and things i mean 65 000 revs
per minute
these rapidly revolving spears spheres
sorry would be part of this uh
this process vibration
there was an aspect of vibration this is
all stuff talked about in the actual
witness reports
and uh conversations with the crewmen of
the airships
but the vibration there's one story of
um an aspect of the technology where the
pilot would walk up and just
tap a little flange sticking out and
that vibration
would activate the system that would
suddenly make
the airship buoyant okay
anti-gravity right there
electric power and batteries were talked
about by the crewmen
of these 1890s airships the propellers
were described they were big they were
you know six feet to ten foot blades
okay which made them 12 to 20 feet
across
the whole thing all right and uh i
always thought it was interesting that
there were green and red side lights
with a white brow light which is a lot
like our aircraft lighting today right
and this is in the 1890s
you know before kitty hawk okay
and of course you know they were talked
about as having flown a thousand miles
in eight hours
okay 1890s people there are still people
that will tell you these were zeppelins
okay
so what was the uh the possible source
of their energy their power some people
think electrographics the bifel brown
effect of t-towns and brown
which i think is being demonstrated out
here in the lobby actually i saw a model
of
that it's essentially i guess in
layman's terms anti-gravity as a result
of electric
field on a mass dr laviolette wrote in
2008 that
electrogravidix was studied by boeing
and the results were classified and of
course there's rumors
that this was used in anti-gravity
properties on the b2 stealth bomber
which of course the government and the
officials deny
you know and it's very possible that
electrogravidix is
part of it but i'm leaning more towards
this gravity electromagnetism
this was a theory published as you can
see in 1893 just a few years before the
airship mysteries of the late 1890s
began to be you know talked about these
airship sightings
by a gentleman named oliver heavyside i
think is heavyside or heavyside
now look at this in his theory it
this all gravido electromagnetism
involves
counter rotating wheels producing a
greater magnetic attraction than when
rotating in the same direction
okay those of you familiar with the bell
know that it's
two elements one fits inside the other
in counter rotation
okay and uh
it produced an effect that caused you
know the bell to lift and fly so there
we're talking about
some type of anti-gravity with the bell
and it's counter rotating
you know elements here you have in 1893
a guy talking about
counter rotating wheels and i already
showed you the wheel apparatus
on that one arrow from the 1850s
and it worked with anti-gravity okay
and then we have the toroidal mass
rotational aspect
use which may be used to accelerate
objects without experiencing g-forces
okay um there is a legend in the airship
mystery that in 1908
tesla was involved in designing an
airship that was built
that attempted to go to mars
okay we all kind of nod and laugh and
say oh okay 1908 to mars
but when you read something like this to
accelerate objects without experiencing
g-forces if
somebody in the 1890s was messing around
with that kind of idea
certainly maybe they could have figured
out life the need
you know life support systems and how
they worked
and such but uh without experiencing
g-forces that's really interesting and
this is oliver heavyside again this guy
lived there's a photo of him
okay and 1893
he was coming up with this stuff all
right
that's in the heart of the airship
mystery era
and yet as described you can see how it
has
its thematic connections to what would
come
just you know 30 some years later in the
bell
and again i think i think this guy
actually was probably working for the
american
group and the germans took
that idea that he had developed
so again with the technology thread
i've shown you the the arrows of the
1850s
again think of them as the model t okay
of these anti-gravity contraptions these
things flying around
in 1890s a little more sophisticated a
little bigger
that's like your 50s buick
and then your modern ufo think of it
like the 1985 porsche the differences in
technology between these three
automobiles
okay is you know analogous to
the difference in the technologies of
these and
between this one here in the 1850s and
essentially this era here was really
only about 100 years or less
okay so why not why why do we assume
that
this modern breakaway secret space
program era had to just start with world
war
ii no no no um
let's look at the threads again the
germans 1850s
you know the the whole prussian uh
effort to unify germany this is the air
of the sonoran aeroclub and the nimsa
leads to the era of kun loeb and germans
in south america and then of course that
leads to the second reich
germany which leads to the nazis you can
see the historical
progression of the german threat the
money threat you know the german bankers
and industrialists you've got cune lobe
again all the bankers and investors i
showed you during
the middle to late 19th century era and
then of course
they had their connections to nazi
bankers and u.s bankers
then in the technology era you go from
the sonora aero club and all the
anti-gravity the stuff we
just talked about okay gravity
electromagnetics around since the 1890s
and the 20th century you have the nazi
bell
and anti-gravity so um
the breakaway civilization concept was
activated in my opinion by the mid-19th
century
the modern world has been a product and
playground of its development for at
least 165 years
maybe longer okay
we must rethink the history within this
context
i do want to say that i'm not
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dismissing any possible et connection
because obviously when you're talking
about organizations that are developing
such technology and they might have gone
into space
they very likely are going to encounter
others who are
out there there is and others aspect to
the nimza which i did not go into today
i go into that in uh my book empire the
will three the nameless ones
okay and uh you'll see how they would
connect
with this german organization and that
right
i want to acknowledge if you're
interested in all this airship stuff i
want to acknowledge the best researchers
who
came to this before i did and i owe a
lot to these guys
crenshawn navarro pete navarro was the
guy who found
del shall's books in a trash bin of an
antique junk shop
he salvaged them he saved them we would
not have known about del shell stuff if
it weren't for pete navarro
okay and he co-wrote a book with dennis
crenshaw the secrets of del shall that i
highly recommend
michael busby has done an excellent job
researching and connecting
between the sonora arrow club and the
1890s mystery
okay theo pymons the best book on john
warley
you'll read and he gets into the 1890s
milieu and all the stuff with astor
and and morgan and tesla that
you know i referred to stephen romano um
i urge you to look up his book the art
of charles del show it is
just a beautiful volume full color large
size pages of del shal's art
and all these arrows most of them that
he
you know that he drew and then of course
sean casteel wrote the book on
uh the tesla airship going to mars
and uh you know give that some
consideration in light of all this
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um
that's where you can you know find me
and my stuff and i hope that this wasn't
too dry or too confusing
um and i know it's you know a bunch of
new stuff
thrown thrown at you guys or most of you
guys but
anyway that's i think there's something
to it so that's all i got
thank you
we got you i can see eisley talking
there
one more time thank you walter bosley
turn your head to the right
there you go
um