one of the examples that he talked to me
about was
in colorado where he went down
into granite and so they're they're
blasting down into granite and suddenly
they came to a cavity
that shouldn't have been there so they
went down
to explore what was going on what this
cavity was
and it turned out to have in it
a ufo and an alien body
now this had occurred so long ago that
there was actually like quartz
that had formed over the ship and the
alien's body this was the first
clue that he had that aliens have been
here
living in the earth for
probably millions of years when we think
about being invaded by aliens
forget it they're already here and they
have been here
they've been a part of our life since
the beginning
the second time you told me
oh the second time he told me about the
alien contact was
through the deep underground mountain
bases with adults
new mexico
right the fire fight and he he told me
about that
how the men came down and to me the
number was like 21 people
originally went down he again they're
blasting
holes and suddenly they discover that
there's a cavern already there
so they go down and explore what's going
on there
and they find
loser aliens dracos is what he would
call them
so they're big tall reptilian looking
yeah they do derive one of their happy
drugs from us
so when they frighten us and we get the
adrenaline going
yeah that's like a drug to them but then
they
eat our blood yeah they eat it yeah they
want our blood
and they they eat our body parts there
was just
that certain one well
it sounded like the reptilian ones
specifically
were doing this and the grays helped
them get people so the grays
help abduct people usually children
you know there's a million children that
disappear every day
i mean every year in the united states a
million
every year but we
we only hear about a couple of he said
there were seven
types of aliens and out of those
two were friendly
that actually tried to help us one of
them looks
very similar to us they they're a little
larger did he say what they were called
he said they were from the pleiades
the aliens that were from the pleiades
looked
more like us and were more friendly to
us
we know that reptilians and and draco
uh you know the blood sacrifices the
whole luciferian thing
the the kids being killed and eaten i
mean
that humans have been eaten and taken
off planet et cetera et cetera and used
for slaves in other colonies etc
i hate to say that but that's far worse
than what you've just said
it's far worse yes far worse and
that the whole blood situation
uh is unbelievable and um
right i don't know how we say that to
the public
i i don't know how um to me
if we get into that and i know all about
it
okay all right far more than you know
sure when we get into that
if we release it 70
80 of everybody that listens to your
program
is it going to say you're smoking pot i
don't believe that and i don't believe
anything you people talk about on
extraterrestrial
and it's going to kill what disclosure
is trying to do
that's my opinion is starting to be
exposed
everywhere you know that much is coming
oh yeah
but you know the part that i don't want
to talk about
i hear you okay yeah i'm it
saying as much as you said right now is
actually great
okay you know what i mean yes because
you basically
are anyone who's hearing everything else
you say
is going to have to come to home with
this and if they want to know more it's
out there it's
more and more it's out there yeah now uh
i'm not going to speak for bob but bob
wood
dr wood who's worked with me on the
my book okay he's he's a genius
if we were in the conference room and we
were talking and it was a big table
there
he would have his fist like this and he
would slam that table
i want every g.d thing
exposed i want it all out
that's lovely to hear and i have to say
i'm having a hard time disagreeing with
him but
we can do another interview on that
subject so that you know this one
it goes out because i know you really
want this information out
you want people to start to wake up and
we don't want to
turn them off to any we don't went you
just said it
we don't want them to be turned off we
don't want them to not
believe what's being said okay and
this and some
we can get into it partially but i'm
saying
uh i personally don't want to be
involved
in doing what bob wants to do it's too
heavy
i think it's gonna i think it's gonna
really hurt
getting more people to get involved in
this subject
okay they're going to say the bill
tompkins is smoking pot i don't believe
one day i'm worried i don't want to hear
about any of this
okay i don't want to hear about it my my
philosophy on this
which is humans are not protecting
themselves
they're not protected and so if you
don't
warn them you're culpable the next time
somebody gets snatched and eaten they're
taken away or their child
and this i'm more concerned about about
the children obviously than
than anything else um you know that's it
well that's what and so i you know
that's my statement
my statement is you know i care about
the children and i want to protect the
children
how can you protect a child you must
tell them you must tell their parents
what's happening what's really going on
on this planet and it's about time
we humans are able to protect ourselves
you know there's a lot of new agers out
there
who want nothing but to believe that
there's et's
definitely but they're all hearts and
flowers and good guys
yes and this is this is such a dangerous
thing to put out there because again you
get humans that
will not be able to protect themselves
and also not
understand you know some people get the
wrong idea about camelot but i'm
actually in favor of the military
um i know it sounds crazy but i actually
understand that we have a lot of
military that are putting their lines
lives on the line yes in a daily basis
to protect humans that have absolutely
no idea that they're in danger
you're correct absolutely and that's got
to change
yeah it's got to change yeah so um
you know i and i i realize that people
have no idea what a brave man you are
oh you are i mean no i just i
just wanted the statement made on my
interview here
that the courage that it takes to
actually do what you're doing right now
is
phenomenal really it is see i can get
away with this because i'm a journalist
and i can say anything and people say
she's crazy and just not listen
but someone with your stature you know
with your reputation and your
documentation and who you where you were
and
where you come from and all of that this
is substantial
i don't think people can ignore you i
don't think they can
well i i sure hope they don't uh and uh
because frankly we need help yeah
we need everybody involved in this it's
it's not
that's not a lie we need help
yes the navy had been involved with
the
the german facilities in antarctica and
the draco reptilian facilities in
caverns
in the antarctica and you have
draco reptilian guys running your
governments
right of every country on your planet
every government
there you go wow that's quite a
statement
does that answer your question
i'm sorry it's not what we want to hear
when we got to the moon we found out a
lot of surprises
okay the dracon
reptilians were already there and
we we we knew because we had probes when
we weren't
non-manned probes that we sent around
the moon so we knew there were facility
on the back side we knew a whole lot
that
people didn't talk about but we were in
a position
where uh
this moon is not a moon okay
it's not your moon in the first place
actually
this is not your planet uh this is
their laboratory okay right okay the
dracos you mean or the reptilians
trickle reptilian slash reptilian and
i'm gonna ask you what they all look
like and all that you know at some point
um okay um
because i know okay let's let's get to
when it was uh
was it neil armstrong landed on the moon
and he said he said that thing that you
heard him say and
michael wants to get real specific about
this so
basically there are seven huge craft
there
and you said on one of the shows out
there you said um
that the the reptilians actually showed
up beneath their
craft and they gave the thing okay they
were parked around the side of the
crater okay they were not parked on it
they were floating above it
so there were hundreds of
these nine foot reptilian guys standing
with their legs yeah they were all the
way across the
under underneath their vehicles okay
standing on the cradle
and what do they look like
uh they're ugly looking
uh lizard
alligator type people they got
they got the same skin as the lizards
got okay
and terrible looking faces
but then they have the ability to shift
and look like a human all of them do
okay okay do you think von braun was a a
reptilian
no you really don't no okay
uh your president yes
oh what which one uh george bush
senior yes yeah sure and bill clinton
and this guy you got oh just got rid of
yeah yeah uh they all were
right okay so they all have this ability
to make themselves look
like real good-looking people and you're
saying trump does
isn't one no he's not
that's a relief and
and he knows more about this subject
than people realize
it excellent join the fight
against the reptilians and dracos that
are basically plundering the galaxies
um taking over planets etc and
you've said something very similar yeah
i have to agree with that
uh i'm just saying that this this is our
our situation and i guess that we should
wrap this up
and i want to say thank you i love you
love you love you and
thank you for your service to humanity
okay appreciate it and i mean that from
the bottom of my heart in the top of my
heart
do you know of any stories that tell
connections between non-humans and
mormons
well um
there's a lot of strange stuff that goes
underneath the mormon temple
and nearby the mormon temple the mormon
table of course is right in the heart of
salt lake
and it has sub-basements upon
sub-basements on sub-basements we've
been in some of them
and it's been reported
that right across what's not going to
report it is a fact
and right across from the mormon temple
is a downtown urban mall
i forget the name of it and in the
basement of the mall
numerous times the cleaning people have
seen
large reptilian figures walking on two
legs
scurrying through the skirring through
the basement of the mall
also one of the temples
actually the seattle bellevue washington
temple
when it was being built some christian
colleagues of mine
snuck into the fountain when they were
building the foundation of the temple
and put bibles underneath the the main
pylons of the temple
and they also put a little booklet
called tomorrow with love which was one
of the first
and best anti-mormon books ever written
and then they poured the concrete over
the temple so we we used to joke about
about that
that temple was the only mormon temple
was built on the word of god
then you see ya temple dedication is a
huge deal
the mormon prophet himself flies in
and prays this dedicatory prayer over
the temple
and while he was doing that up on the
hill overlooking the temple
there's all these pine trees and hiding
behind the pine trees
were a dozen believers in yeshua
praying fiercely against the lying
deceitful spirits of mormonism
so guess what happens we found out later
from several people who got born again
that when people would go into see the
mormons believe that
that almighty god himself walks in those
temples
that's why they're so sacred they
believe that he's actually walking
through the corridors that he
he stays in the celestial room visits
his children that are there
and you know and many people in mormon
temples have experiences where they see
dead ancestors
like they'll go in and be baptized for
their dead grandmother or something and
then
they'll see old granny hovering up there
in the ceiling saying
oh thank you for finally you know
baptizing me so i can join the one true
church you know that kind of thing
and of course all of these are demons
well so what was interesting about this
bellevue temple
is that people would start seeing these
horrible
crocodile reptilian-like figures running
through the hallways and it freaked
several people out to the point they got
born again you know what we believe is
that the prayers
uh and the the presence of the bibles
underneath the foundation
was sort of scrambling these you know
reptilians and
demons or whatever they were from
appearing
as these benign relatives or as heavenly
father or whatever and so instead
the masks were being ripped off and they
were being seen for what they really
were
say i have seen that
i have smelled them
i've i've had personal experience of
these
and there are people who claim that
these creatures
are gods they are people there who claim
that these creatures are experimenting
on us that is a lot of
rubbish these creatures
are harvesting us
these creatures are not aliens
mr ike these creatures are
sexually compatible with our women
and what does that tell you it tells you
that they
came from here they
are they are
they are part of us
and this makes them all the more
dangerous
they know us very very very well
they know the great weaknesses of our
minds
just as they know the great strengths
of our minds they operate in
in what i call the gray area of human
existence that that side of our lives
which we don't want to acknowledge the
existence of
they create african tradition
says that the cheetah
where they engaged god himself
in a terrible war and god defeated them
the real god
the creator god defeated them
and he closed their mouths so that they
are unable
to talk or to eat food
anymore but we are told say
that the cheetah would
certain on the energy that we
human beings give them they
make us to fight each other and
when the whole land is drowning
in death and fear and
terror when hundreds and hundreds of
people
are angry and afraid the cheetah would
get fat because they eat that
that what we call the dark power
which is brought about when human beings
destroy the planet on which they live
they feel of human emotion yes very
very intense human emotion
we are told for example that if you see
a chitta worry walking through the bush
or just standing there
and looking at you and you are
accompanied by your wife or your
girlfriend
you must immediately make love to that
girlfriend
and release as much emotion as possible
and the chitauri will be pleased and
will
walk away from you and not harm you
and another things
we are told that the cheetah will
eat energy which
is generated when hundreds of human
minds
or one human mind starts
thinking at certain levels
we are told that the chitauri want us
to think at certain levels
yes and they reward us
with long life
may i ask you sir have you ever
thought as a thinking person
why is it that in the great universities
of this world
you find professors
who think at certain levels
and who live unnaturally long lives
albert einstein
raymond dart
robert broome all these professors
live a long long time
and my aunt mine
the last sanusi in south africa other
than myself
is as active as a young girl and yet
she is close to a 99th year of life
my stepmother rose
she has lost nearly all his her children
and she is still alive
extreme longevity
is the reward with which the cheetah
will
reward uh in a previous interview barry
you mentioned
seeing a lizard-like creature at
peasemar would you
uh tell us more about that yeah on one
occasion it was just a single occasion
i was in the main corridor at the base
and coming out of the room
along the main corridor was this
very large creature very tall well over
six foot
um being accompanied by two
uh men in suits which i took to the
nsa operatives they're the only ones who
don't wear badges in the place
i just stopped in the tracks very very
uh shaken i mean it's a very
powerful looking being
very difficult to describe just very
very tall very well built
very strong well over as i say well over
six where he must have towed at least a
foot over my
my head a greeny brownie mottled
uh type of skin i tried to take in as
many details as possible but as i say it
literally caught me underwear as i was
really put into shot didn't know what
the hell it was it was just casually
walking along main corridor
with the two operatives got a very
strong sense of evil
and nastiness about the thing um
it worried me for quite a while
afterwards i mean
you know you never told the security
people the last to be told what's going
on
but it was inferred by others at the
time that
that was one of the reptile species
because it didn't mean that much to me
at the time
but every time you ask questions no one
would answer it was just
strongly inferred that yeah that was a
reptilian you don't want to mess with
that
and it was just left of that but over
the years
it just seems more and more plausible to
me that that also was another creation
from the base
it just you know
there may well be ripped in your races
but it's just as easy for the military
to
actually made this thing rather than
being an action
rest of them like the rest of them here
it's it
i sit more happier with that yeah that
was actually great rather than
that it was a program generated live i'm
pretty certain it was yeah
yeah did he make sounds or say anything
no he never looked at me it just
continued walking there was no
interaction whatsoever
um i only got some interaction from the
two guys who
i'm standing there mouth wide open
gaping at this
and i just got the look from them to
step you know
and they just continued and i continued
about my business
now there's no sound uh no speaking no
nothing but so it was just walking along
the main corridor
with the two guys that was it did you
have any idea what his function was
um well again you ask as many questions
as as you formulate afterwards once
you've got over the initial shock of
what the hell was that
no one wanted to know no one wanted to
easily give
answers to questions it was a case of
well you saw it that was it you know
don't ask questions troublemakers ask
questions and they don't remember
he was walking on two feet was he or
four feet two
yes that was standing up right i mean as
i say i'm trying to take in this all
happened probably within 30 seconds
i'm taking it in uh feeling
you know yeah i don't want to meet this
on a dark night anyway
um yeah i never even bothered to look
but it was well
the glance back i gave both the
the figure and the two two guys was was
very brief
while i continued that's it i've got
jobs to do my way
that's not my business but over a period
of time you were there for
uh upwards of a year or so altogether
why did this one been 30 seconds
because it was so out of place with what
was going on there i mean
everyone's so used to the different
phases
you know development of the pg's and
this literally stuck out like a
sort of rum you know it's just not the
usual thing you see around it
just for once once only um
yeah it was very unnerving very scary
any final questions you didn't see an
insignia or anything on his clothing i
mean
he was dressed inside presumably if it
was again i never noticed i didn't
discern
you know oh that was skin and that was
close it just didn't
that wasn't there it was just this tall
being i mean mostly my focus was from
you know
chest upwards i mean the head i was
literally expecting it to turn around
and face me know i wouldn't know what i
would have done if it hadn't done but it
just kept looking straight
and continuing as if i wasn't even there
so no i didn't take in that many details
uh what i saw was yeah quite enough
thanks very much is there anything that
you could
that you could say it looked like
uh well again you've seen drawings that
people have done over the years of
supposed uh reptilians draco whatever
they
you know their names are given
lizard like i mean literally is like a
very
tall very big lizard i mean
you know half expecting the big fork
tongue to come out but you know again
it's just what you expect
for your program to expect a lizard type
being to be like
any idea why they would create such a
creature
well it's exactly the same like the the
normal people calling that pgs i mean
they're there for military abductions
and there's a an aura of mystery over
the reptilians they're the dangerous
ones they're the ones who are in charge
uh they're just continuing that yeah
anything finally that you would like to
say
to that
well as i mentioned well there is i mean
there's
insiders out there who probably know a
hell of a lot more than i'll ever know
and there's a lot of people out there
who want to come forward just give them
the reassurances
that they'd be listened to without being
laughed at they'll come forward
can you help enough well it's
limited to what i can personally do i
mean
i can only help with people over on
this side the atlantic and i know
there's a load of people
who were involved and by making my
documents known
they know that i was involved it might
make you a little bit safer in coming
forward
okay well thank you very much we
certainly appreciate your time and
efforts
okay
this is david daniels this is how we
appeared um to me
on my doorstep when he said that he
had come down in a craft and he'd been
told to come
to mine to to meet me and give me
knowledge
and he stayed with us for three months
and while he was staying with us
i saw him turn into a reptilian um three
different times
and you feel about this at the time i
didn't i didn't feel anything i felt
um friendly with him he was really nice
um
you know we we really gelled together
and he
learned it gave me a lot of knowledge he
could read any ufo book that
i put in front of him he knew exactly
what was in the book he didn't have to
open it to read it
he could prepare and disappear he only
ate green vegetables and sweets he
didn't eat anything else
he started to stay in the house because
we had to put you up in here
before you go to this if you go through
the rest of the pictures
oh okay
that's david daniels reptilian that's
how he sort of changed
how what was the mechanism in changing
what was it like
he's shook for about two minutes he just
absolutely shook before
his face started taking over and then
his body but i didn't actually see his
full body not until the third
well then i didn't see his full body i
just saw his face and his arms his hands
and his chest on the third one
and people say to me did he have a tail
but he
you know as far as i know he didn't
because i didn't see the full
um full thing
it's sort of a shuddering blur yeah sort
of shut you know when he was going to
change
he sort of shook did he do that
intentionally
well i guess it's the way he he
morphinized for from being
home and to being a reptilian um
you know because when i saw the little
ones i used to play with the little ones
when i was five they used to do the same
things
sorry i call them the little ones no the
little et's
great yeah when i used to play with them
when i was five
down in the dale and they used to do the
same thing they used to shake like jelly
and i used to call them
my little jelly friends um is that
because they were changing shape to
humans or
no it's because the way they materialize
and de-materialized
and it's the same with the little monks
down at rendelstrom they done exactly
the same thing
they used to shake um you know when they
when they materialized in front of us
and then when they dematerialized they
used to sort of shake like that and
there was a glow come off them and they
would just
go it's really hard to explain but
um that's the way more of the
you know david no um only his
um
only his um this what he wore around his
neck
is david now no no that's
that's something to do with david now
that to do with raw
but that's when he took me back um to my
past
lives he done something with that in
front of me like that and
he was putting it in front of me and
told me to watch it and i was watching
it and he took me back to some of my
past lives
one was i was a man in egypt and i
helped to build the pyramids
and i described exactly how i helped to
build the pyramids
and one day of years after that um
probably in the 90s i went up to um
norwich museum and i would do an
egyptian day and if anything was there
they had pictures
of how the pyramids were built and that
was exactly how i'd explained it
absolutely exactly and another one i was
a monk
in peru or i was a buddha actually in
peru
and i was looking down going up to the
big
um palace or wherever it was we were
going up this hill
looking down in a valley and you could
see all the people who were
really poor and everything and they were
trying to grow their crops and that
um and then another time i don't know
what era i was in because
um there was a little boy and he was
pulling a like an oxen
and a cart with all grain in that in it
across some cobblestones
and i was standing there watching him in
a long gray dress
but i don't know unless it was tom
sawyer's day i don't know what what year
that was
but they were all in a human environment
as opposed to an alien environment yeah
they're all
yes yeah they were yeah all my past
lives yeah