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they were used for passing information
and passing inhabitants this
direction oh by other cultures coming
this way but not by us
by by by p 45s and p plus 52s both
orions and j-rods
the treaties were basically inflicted on
us by the orions
as they were enforced upon us by the
orions that we needed to do what we
needed to do when they figured out that
we weren't
able to handle the issue ourselves they
looked at their own history and said
look at the cavemen and women then i
found out
that because he had carried the the
um the attitude that the magi
were not closely watching anything with
it was like neos or any you know the
near-earth
orbiting asteroids or anything like that
they weren't concerned about it at all
well then subsequently during a
conversation
i found out that in fact they were the
information from her relative was in
fact that
they were aware that there would be an
islamic
attack upon the united states uh as
early meaning they were aware as early
as the mid 1990s that would be coming
sometime in the new millennium well
right on smack on the beam
the orions could trust us so much where
they could hand us a cube
and we misused it to the state that we
misused it
where they then had to inflict a treaty
system upon us
but the moon is not like you know the
most inhabitable planet
no but it's the place that we're allowed
to be
right now
do i sound like i'm weighing my words
that our emotions affect our state
our physical state that our
our orientation to the to the
energies which are available from the
the cosmos if you will uh
affect the state of our dna affect the
state of our health
and they are applying that as a an
experimental protocol
a rubric if you will to change the state
of the people on board so that they can
sample them for biological material
i have a question about the
probabilities dan
the low probability if you ask a
question i really answer it
the low probability um according to what
i understand what you said earlier is 19
is that still valid because that's still
playing russian roulette with
with one bullet in the barrel of five is
it not it's that's that's
in that and actually it's slightly worse
than that
in all honesty it's slightly worse than
that because there's only an 85
confidence level to that 19
so that doesn't quite sound like we can
all relax
i don't think it's a well no i don't
think it's a question i think we need to
i think we need to do the right things
and and there was a a um
a correlation to the successful and
unsuccessful outcomes
which involved the people of the world
being
united in purpose for survival and for
care for
our world and that's the reason why
we did this this crazy thing and i i i
you know
it sounded crazy it looked crazy but we
did it because it was the right thing to
do and i ended up
having to send a team of people out
canvassing
the regular people of the world in
handing flyers out
stating that the time had arrived for us
to pray for unity
and i would still encourage that
seriously and sincerely
you know i i i lost people uh i was in
charge of a team and
some of them died uh as a result while a
couple of them from accidents and that
you know can happen anywhere but a
couple of them were put to death for
proselytizing
and and so i bear that on my soul now
for put to death for proselytizing in in
a country in a country where
china
there was in fact two deaths in china
and we also lost some people in saudi
arabia
in a couple other places i didn't make
public how many all
we lost or how many all we had but
they did their jobs and the information
was handed out
and we did the best we could
anyway uh you were you were asking about
the you were asking about the
the stargate uh the possible locations
and all of that
on on june 16th of 2003 in rv number
0403
uh deborah was requested to um
do a remote viewing session
a soul one a series of them in fact that
she conducted and she
uh found several locations among them
was in fact a voloshanka uh
then she even said to the north by the
tundra in russia
uh and in the uh um south wetton to beat
the southwest tibetan mountains i'm
sorry i'm still a little bit
thinking about my men and women
uh in uh
i don't know how to pronounce this
motion
m-o-s-j-o-e-n in norway and that
was a a big big hula blue
there was one actually uh the equipment
was actually removed from there
so what you're syria turkey she remote
viewed the locations of these
the of the stargate in fact she did and
the reason the reason why i
i um reacted to pull this out
in your question number nine it says how
many lg's
are were there how many man-made
stargates where are they
and you gave a list of possible
countries in that list
you mentioned bulgaria right well on the
second page of it
she's got the purine mountains in
bulgaria listed
uh so i i just wanted to kind of
let you know thank you and couple points
in egypt and
uh um she uh
didn't in fact in this one mention iraq
because she was working separately for
iraq
on february the 4th of 2003 she did a
um a special rv rv says i i came up with
a following in my session
i saw a place 10 miles south southeast
of baghdad
this by the way is a place where we
ended up actually raiding
and removing what they thought were
rings for what they called
weapons of mass destruction well there
were rings all right but it was a
different kind of weapon of mass
destruction
i pictured a big tree on the ground
surface of this location now think about
how saddam
was finally found yes
behind the tree there was a hole in the
ground that had a piece of wood over it
i saw a man looking and feeling like
saddam have a guard lift the wood over
the hole
saddam then entered the hole and jumped
into what looked like a platform at the
top of a set of stairs
in in remote viewing i don't remote view
but in remote viewing from everything i
understand from her
time gets mixed up overlaid and
sometimes
off shifted and uh she clearly saw him
in the the spider hole um she also
indicated that um
she found the work area down there and
and in fact drew the the
work area which they ended up finding
and finding the one gate in in iraq
interesting stuff huh absolutely um so
we are kind of um getting off the topic
a little bit
that's good
stargates and all that um
i'm sorry said am i causing that i hope
not
um we know that kyla escaped through a
stargate
um and with your assistance that was
described in
one of our last videos yeah um and you
went home
yes he went home and um
the interesting thing about that is that
you also had an experience in which you
sort of
fell into the stargate and then kind of
didn't go all the way so it was in this
reality i
well kind of kind of uh i was expelled
uh several yards away onto a a slab
of um it was either limestone or granite
i'm not really sure of sandstone
all i know is that it was hard
when i landed on it and it was on the
other side of the tarpaulin
over the area with separated human e.t
side for the actual staging around the
stargate it was the
military operation and um
i ended up on the other side of the of
the barriers
which were like raised curtains so that
the people around the area that who were
actual inhabitants of the area couldn't
see
and i landed on that and i moaned or
groaned or was wondering where i was
and was in fact then approached by men
and guns who were very upset with me
but okay so but you saw the inside of a
wormhole
right oh i i i
can't really say that uh uh
there was a gray curtain
almost a misti type curtain very similar
to what i remember
during the time that i was in a coma
back in the 70s
uh and i saw certain things on the
other side but it was a flash and that
was about it
and nothing really remarkable to talk
about okay so you never went
through all the way through i mean i'm
asking
no i was just you no i i did not end up
i do not remember
ending up anywhere else have you ever
gone through it no
no no no no no no no no no no
and no and and now there are no
rotating ring-like devices where men
with military equipment
walk through and and meet raw on the
other side and bring their nuclear
weapons with them no
no uh there are yes i'm being derogatory
towards serpo
uh you were talking about uh
well that's what serpo came from i mean
you know this list of
well we've got our nuclear weapon with
us and all of this business and
and they could have picked something
better than the name serpo if they were
going to go with it but
serpo is a it's a reptile park and what
is it argentina or the netherlands
it's the name of a reptile park and uh
um i think it was picked more more by
the
the former ops who were actually putting
the dis
info together and what they did is they
just simply took a name and they turned
it backwards it was oppressed
okay it's okay in
in in the serpo story as told to people
okay okay but
there's no target that's what i said yes
sir
so what i'm asking is we have
stargates okay that have been
decommissioned
yeah okay which access time travel
technology
okay these stargates before they were
decommissioned we must assume were used
they were used for passing information
and passing inhabitants this
direction oh by other cultures coming
this way but not by us
by by p plus 45s and p plus 52s both
orions and j-rods
what about all the other i mean i don't
know if you're
party to this but how many other races
are out there
i am aware of one inter-dimensional
species
that won't speak with us directly and
was communicating
via the orions the p plus 52 orions
that's it uh
okay so you know and i i've been 20
years this is
it's confusing to me because i've got so
many people with such great certitude
and i've been 20 years around these
people and either they were the greatest
hiders in the world
even while drunk and some of them
drunk and recreationally drunk and
that's the way i'm
best i should put that uh
comes with large amounts of money
sometimes they
pay for products to make them feel good
or whatever
uh i have never
you know it's been a joke i hate to put
it this way but a lot of the ufo
community like to them the stories
have been a joke and and a lot of them
have been proffered by the folkloristics
unit in majestic they actually
promulgated a lot of these stories
and now they hand me the bag to come out
here and go
boo you know sorry the boogeyman ain't
real i guess i i
okay the only thing that i'm aware of
are the peoples 45s and the peopleis 52s
the inner grades between them over the 7
000 years between them cannot be
contacted per treaty
the people's 52 j-rods and orions i'm
aware of and the people's 45 j-rods
at the time the people's 45s were around
they were unaware that the people's 52
orions which would then be people as 45
orions even existed they didn't even
know that they still survived
at the time and they only found out as a
consequence of coming here in the treaty
negotiations
okay but what about the you're telling
me the stargates were only used
one way by used two ways but one way by
by transport
for four delegates in okay and that was
only that was only
under under extreme circumstances
involving international uproar where
there were problems with the treaties
aside from that products were exchanged
back and forth
and information was exchanged but it was
deemed too
dangerous to be handing people back and
forth regularly
these things collapse from what i
understand spontaneously and if it
collapses and you are not
out one side or in the other
you're nowhere okay so you're telling me
that these people
had such a conscience they were not
sacrificing
americans or other you know or or
military
people to test the stargates no
no the the the treaties were basically
inflicted on us
by the orions as they were
enforced upon us by the orions that we
needed to do what we needed to do when
they figured out that we weren't
able to handle the issue ourselves they
looked at their own history and said
look at the cavemen and women okay after
we acted the way that we acted involving
the the the cube and all of that
business
they inflicted the treaty system on us
and they said
you will behave this way we don't have
the ability to just
take a stargate and to step through onto
the other side without violating a
treaty
they don't want us out there we are
dangerous
to ourselves so why would we not be
dangerous to another culture they are
sure as hell not going to let us off
this planet
can i ask you
well yes um but i still believe it or
not i still have not read about what
montauk is
and sitting here right now i have zero
clue what
it even is okay that's cool what about
the philadelphia experiment you're
familiar with that
i am i'm familiar with the reports of
the uss eldridge
okay i'm familiar with the unified field
theory testing that went on
in fact the unified field theory testing
did go on
but it made something which was from
what i understand
um radar invisible but not
involving everything that i've heard all
these other movies about people going
back to
1941 and prior to pearl harbor and all
of this business and you know walk
through the time tunnel and all of this
the information that i've heard from the
military sources
because i asked when i was in there
because i knew about the philadelphia
experiment
from way back from hearing about it uh
that it was a legit
experiment that there was a legit
experiment that went on
but it provided radar invisibility it
was an early early cloaking system
and it was electromagnetic cloaking okay
um now i'm gonna i'm wondering what
certainly kyla gave you um
sort of uh like
hidden cards in your hand that allowed
you to get to to get information from
majestic or to
trade information with majestic such
that you would learn
what was going on in terms of the
stargates
and if i tell you that means i'm telling
that camera right there yes
and okay and but
if if recently we i
you know i don't know if this is in the
public domain but recently
you found out that mj1 had not
told you everything about a certain
incident
true okay which was a meteor incoming
meteor
it was apophis and and the the big thing
is is
the the affidavit that i wrote and the
dust-up that happened between he and
myself
was based on the fact that he said and i
told him not to lie to me again
and the reason why i told him not to lie
to me again it involved
the time period where i was told to keep
my mouth totally shut
because of timelines then i found out
that it was a bunch of garbage
basically just to manipulate me to keep
my mouth shut
and after that happened then more votes
were taken and then i was told to talk i
was given the orders to talk
yo-yo okay
when that happened i told him don't lie
to me anymore
tell me it's none of your damn business
if you have to
i can accept that better than being lied
to
you know what's more honorable
he said fine then i found out
that because he had carried the the
um the attitude that the magi
were not closely watching anything which
is like neos or any you know the
near-earth
orbiting asteroids or anything like that
they weren't
concerned about it at all well then
subsequently during a conversation
i found out that in fact they were
this caused a mild dustup which was then
heightened because of information from
her relative
the information from her relative was in
fact that they were aware
that there would be an islamic attack
upon the united states
uh as early meaning they were aware as
early as the mid 1990s that it would be
coming
sometime in the new millennium well
right on smack on the beam
that made it worse i had told him that
if he ever lied to me again i would make
you pay a price for it
the simple price was naming him okay
but and after that i've you know we've
sent
there has been conversation with that
particular individual sense
and everybody's okay with everybody i
mean you know 20
years more than 20 years
i first met the gentleman at the at the
back of the the lambs in the
the the museum more than 20 years since
mid 1970s
relationship is not going to go by the
wayside
over a dozen sure i understand um but
what i'm
the reason i'm alluding to that is that
here's an
uh a case i know what you're alluding to
okay well you don't know everything no
idea about what's happening
and you haven't necessarily been clued
in to everything
no i have and so you are telling me that
we don't go both ways in stargates and
this is what you've been told
okay and you are telling me that there's
only two
races maybe a third that's you know um
doesn't have three races plus us maybe a
fourth
okay so so all i can say
here is um this is interesting because
we have gotten testimony from a lot of
different
witnesses people who have different
psychic abilities
uh who have come from the inside from
black ops like our henry deacon
telling us that we are accessing
stargates constantly
and going in fact between the earth and
mars and going beh
between the earth and the moon and
possibly other places as well
in other words not just that we're
staying
out of space or outing the star gates
because the orions
tell us to they were used they were used
in timeline number two to gradually
access moon and mars
now there is a possibility that the
information that he has
or had has to do with a future timeline
that would make sense to me on that on
that level but not on the
on the level of hey honey let's take the
kids to
olympus mons today no but
um how about if the military is sending
equipment back and forth
et cetera et cetera okay the
orions could trust us so much where they
could hand us a cube
and we misused it to the state that we
misused it where they then had to
inflict a treaty system
upon us are they running our country are
they running our world
no no they're simply constraining what
we're
able to do
no no we're running our own showdown
here
uh meaning when i say we i'm not talking
about the common folks that are you know
like being starved to death every day
we're running our own show politically
down here
these statements about well these are
mind-controlled this or that you know
automatons working for the et's and the
government no no no
no these are good-hearted and
black-hearted people
both all fighting each other to run
the geopolitical scenario
that that is an honest you know
assessment from what i've seen what's
going on
um but we are constrained as to what we
are allowed to do
uh meaning where we are allowed
presently to off world
i understand you know you know very nice
very nice we placed our hands on our
hips
and underdog flew the american flag on
the moon and we showed ourselves so
wonderful and all of that
over the soviets but that doesn't
mean that we're quite able at this point
to go and camp out for too long
okay so now you're telling me why we're
not theoretically
or we haven't gone back to the moon at
least we're busy
right we're busy throwing sticks and
stones at each other
and another reason why we're not why we
cannot go back there as part of the
treaty system allows us
to have a certain repository set
somewhere on the moon
and that repository is presently there
okay
and that is in case the t2 timeline
should eventuate
or there should be a a geological or
a a global catastrophe uh
of like size okay which is their
what you called the arc yeah okay which
from what i understand
used to exist here on the planet well in
several pieces
right okay so they took it up to the
moon somehow
uh yeah it was assembled and no no
uh that was going to in fact they were
building equipment
up north from here and they ended up
got getting it about three quarter of
the way built
uh i actually told bill hamilton about
this when we were walking on the jeep
road out at frenchman mountain one night
he says
well where is it gonna go
i looked like that and kind of pointed
up and there the orb was heading
he says ah okay but you call it an ark
is this
is this something well that's a nickname
for it but it sounds like it's going to
save
creatures it's got genetic
and tissue and other products
from us yeah okay other creatures on the
planet
oh yes oh yes yes a very good
biodiversity yes
i see and from it's sitting on the moon
in case there's something
very bad that happens down here is that
the idea yes okay
from the moon where does it go it
doesn't
oh really but the moon is not like you
know the most
inhabitable planet no but it's the place
that we're allowed to be
right now
do i sound like i'm weighing my words
yes yes okay well it's your job to ask
the questions
it's my job to answer them as honestly
and as truthfully
as i am able while while being honorable
and beneficial okay and i and we and we
do thank you for that
um you know regardless of what other
people think um
well i mean you know i
there's a huge impact i know the exact
spot that the thing is setting there
all right i know what it looks like i
know how many pieces there are
i was involved in looking at and
assisting with the biospherics
on it i know exactly where it sets and
what happens if i say exactly where it
sets
and something happens to it sure
i ca i can't take that on my back i
understand go back to the 50s
here for a second an interesting
uh thing happened you know we were
talking about the um
the the cube and all of that and and the
meetings with with
eisenhower uh in the orions the
delegates
an interesting thing and i'm just
referring to this of course
because it happens to reference from the
intelligence community the appropriate
event
albeit it was being said at the time
during a different context
this is referencing a
hearing of the senate select committee
on intelligence the nomination of mike
mcconnell
to be director of national intelligence
and this was at 2 30 pm eastern time
on thursday february the 1st 2007
and mr mcconnell
the honorable
vice admiral said the following
quote senator some years ago
i think 50s 60s
there was a battle in the community with
regard to authorities for signals
intelligence of course signals
intelligence communication
and people can read between the lines i
think
and decisions were taken finally to
cause the director of nat
of the national security agency to have
responsibility for signals intelligence
or
sickened as we for as we refer to it
with regard to establishing priorities
overseeing the technology
ensuring it's conducted in an
appropriate way
the training standards are right and
investments
are correct and so on
i get a little report here which was
released on 17 february
2003 this was actually sent to me
by bill hamilton it was written by a
person named
matt guzza i don't i don't know who the
person is aside from director i
c u s u f o i c and he reports the
following
aquarius background aquarius and other
information
says aquarius findings briefly described
below because it was being
for some reason project aquarius was
being looked at very closely
at the time number one from what we have
found we believe
that it started in 1953
alongside of the project blue book
ordeal
now 53 let's think what happened at 53
this is pretty much around the same time
general time frame is the eisenhower
thing within a year
53 was also the time when a certain
craft
dumped in arizona
as i recall right near kingman involving
two p plus 45 j
rods and a p plus 52 the p 45 was the
one met by
bill ewhaus and of course the the p45
was the p52
i had the great honor but the theory on
the drawing board at this time is that
it started
as an usaf black project and was
overtaken by the intelligence community
due to the content and the secrecy from
investigating the past interest of the
usaf and ufos
it seems that the usaf weighed their
investigation
too much on non-scientific data this
would explain the need for the
intelligence community investigation
i said we can read between the lines
here
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herein after finding of finding
and seeing this or due to other issues
the intelligence community took aquarius
out of the hands of the usaf
isn't it funny how these two things
coordinate with one another
well what do you uh okay what are you
trying to say are you trying to say that
that there was an obvious illusion there
was an obvious illusion here
in the testimony to the the honorable uh
vice admiral mcconnell
two situations which were going on
during the 1950s
uh involving the the present
relationship between we and the
extraterrestrial species
yep okay there seems to be a rather
direct correlation here
and then the fact that later on during
the the uh
intelligence community uh um
interview of mr mcconnell uh there was
even an
uh allusion to um
well to uh to uh to timeline changes
senator rockefeller
this gives my heart good saying his name
i regret to say that my time has run out
and i think somebody's manipulating this
clock
because that much time hasn't gone by oh
my heavens
and then a woman walked in who's from a
another
committee and that would be susan
collins i believe
but the fact that there was a
manipulation of a clock comment going on
and this there are several well i've got
it tabbed up
as the as to the relationships here but
what i'm trying to i guess show the
folks is how things are said publicly
yes absolutely so but what is
interesting is how many in congress know
what's really being said
well the the the head of the
uh committee here this committee was
chaired by
john d rockefeller the fourth democrat
of west virginia
uh and there is a no doubt that
rockefeller is in the loop
well i i have i have little doubt that
he is in the loop as well
and and may have been in the larger loop
as opposed to
not the majestic 12 loop
and you're being a member of the
illuminati no no no no
no no no no no no no there there was a
larger group that existed between 63
67 properly in approximately 2002 called
the committee of the majority oh okay
okay well then um all right i mean you
know you got people like the rockefeller
that can call the
the the war that happened in 1990 what
is the persian gulf procedure
that's right he actually called it the
persian gulf procedure
wasn't a procedure that i was in but
anyway um
okay well we've heard that that since
then it's now called
there's 40 members and it's called isn't
it the
pi 40. that's an old that's an old name
that's an old name that's an old name
for it so what you're saying or what is
being said here is that there is
some catastrophic events that have been
mitigated to some degree hopefully by a
certain amount of unity on the planet
and a certain amount of effort
towards the positive and i'm assuming
and removal of equipment yeah
okay but they removed the equipment
because the equipment told them
to remove it in other words they removed
the equipment because the history
indicated that the equipment was
operating
during the time of the catastrophe and
was approximate cause to the catastrophe
by increasing the amount of energy into
our asthenosphere and causing a global
catastrophe
in a sense the equipment was telling you
know it's it's almost like
uh well it was the equipment and it was
the delegates it was also the delegates
to the treaties and
and the representatives including kyla
the
orions were saying hey hey guys it's the
equipment
shut it down and you'll have better luck
they were they were the leading force in
that yes
really okay now i'm going to ask you
something that may
come across a little controversial but
what
no we have been talking about such
prosaic items all evening
i'm not certain it makes you think that
they had our best
um uh our best
futures in mind when they told us to
turn those
that equipment off in other words why
should we believe them
well we should believe them simply
because of the possibility and because
and because we're talking about four and
a half billion up to five billion people
here
all right now let's think about this
for a moment if we leave the equipment
in place
and nothing happens
so what what is the harm in removing it
right now that would be the the
corollary question to the question that
you just asked
if they don't have our best interest at
heart how would our removing that
equipment
prevent the catastrophe that we're
hearing about
from three different cultures meaning
the orions the j-rods and the j-rods
from earlier times
how would removing that equipment
approximate the the catastrophe
only leaving the equipment in place
would be the dangerous move
so there's no harm in in in turning uh
in turn you know in unloading a gun but
there is no
there is a possible harm in having it
loaded sure
it's like the joke of believing in god
it's like the sufi joke about
whether you believe a god or not if you
if you don't believe in god and there is
no god
there's no harm but if you do believe in
god and there is a god
it's going to be a good thing in the end
right well
it may take you a few more trips back
but
okay so i don't know that's up to god
right well in a sense that's what you're
saying no this is
this is an issue of practicality yeah
you know if
if we have a piece of equipment there
that could possibly cause us harm
let's say let's say they're wrong and it
doesn't
you better pull it apart anyway we're
talking about the
you know the consequence of of nearly
five billion people
okay we would be stupid not to in other
words
okay what about the natural stargates
that still exist
on the planet uh there
what has been heard from from my
background concerning
the natural stargate issues is what was
going on at frenchman mountain and to
access that they were using one of the
stargate devices
they had it hauled out there okay i mean
for example sedona has
several vortexes oh sure they're all
over the place yeah
and there are several natural vortexes
you know just to create even even a
cyclone or a hurricane
creates a sort of a vortex sure okay
through which certain races can travel
in their ships
it is set okay
okay do you have anything to say about
that
okay those are natural stargates
the the meaning a portal which does not
require
uh hardware sure well
i don't know okay i don't know well i
you know i guess i could i could
probably make some sort of a comment
relative
lotus uh there's a
a possibility that the portals that
we're seeing during project lotus may be
micro wormholes
and certainly at least information
is being carried through those portals
from somewhere
to here and it's causing an effect in
the environment
uh now we're assessing presently to see
whether or not they are naturally
produced and
in august going to certain circumstances
we're planning on running tests
out at frenchman mountain to determine
whether or not it is a natural
phenomenon
um
possibly okay i mean you know you you
could say that a
a a
travel in time could be a warp
produced by a gravimetric device
of a craft you can move large distances
in little to no time so
i'm not certain what the difference is
physically or mathematically
between that and what is being called an
einstein rosenbridge
uh you would need a physicist for that
i'm used to working on cells
right but you know and and in a sense if
lotus is
creating some kind of stargate effect
oh that's wonderful micro wormhole
that's wonderful if it is it is
it is wonderful but in a sense you might
also
have to let go of lotus in that sense
if it is going to impact oh i have
i have in in fact but but for for more
tangible reasons
um we were we brought
the the fine art of producing these
portals for demonstration up to a
science
we knew exactly what to do know exactly
what to do to propagate them with nearly
a hundred percent efficiency
they range in size thus far that we've
seen between about
um 0.02 millimeters so about 20 microns
to to uh up to a millimeter
when we produce them now in the field
they're approximately a millimeter in
diameter
and that's putting um
a heck of a lot of energy in 50 times
more energy than what were
what we would do through the microscope
but we we brought it to the point where
it was
a beautiful thing where i could hook the
right uh optics train
on the on the scope propagate with the
use of a laser
and and electricity and turn around
immediately
on the surface of a silicate uh
then we started getting things coming
through on this end
released results in the medium around
the crystal or around the silicate
material that we were using
which were not normal um cells of
anomalous origin
self-organizing cells which
appeared to be organizing in one case we
did a variant of the ancient
lazaro spalazzani experiment historic
experiment concerning beef broth and
to to rule out spontaneous generation
uh and we had a very nice abab
neuronal type pattern formed by cells
that were uh
self-organizing and they were there were
clearly um
morphologically they appeared like
neurons in in this
soup that we had and and uh so we had
some real problems
uh developing we had uh two other
consequences where
uh we had what uh um were produced were
anomalous cells of
unknown uh quality and
coming through well what we had is we
had an organization i think going on on
this
end uh now we're coming very close
and more is going to be said about a
year about this but we're coming we're
coming close
uh to determining the the mechanism uh
and what it appears thus far is that
there is
a an opening to a somewhere
which is then placed in communication
with our environment acoustically
and then there is a series of reactions
with micro shards
of silicate material or micro shards of
of quartz in our environment
which then become actually spontaneously
or nearly so
enclosed with material from our
environment and they move
off to various locations and actually
have effects on target cells in our
environment
and so it's apparently based
acoustically
but that's that's understandable um
although
it's complex um and i'm not a biologist
so i don't pretend to understand all of
it but i understand where you're going
with this but you still but in essence
to get back to stargates
because that's the subject of this
really um am i
still no you're you're there but the
thing is
that what i'm curious about
i'm loosing the the the lock on the
camera so it gradually
is i'm i'm actually curious whether or
not
um these natural stargates that do occur
in nature are not
being accessed by beings
whether they be the orions or whoever
you know
at will into this dimension i've got no
information
that the the p52 orions or p52j
rods or the p45 j rods or accessing such
a system
save the use of time travel technology
gates to move from one spot to another
and then the use of craft from moving
from there to here
meaning to from a spot in reticulum for
instance
to a place in the aquarius system gliese
glyce or however it's properly said
and then which is the origin of of from
what i understand of project aquarius
itself
because they were known to be coming
from that direction
and that is i believe in the the
aquarius constellation but
um because they use craft then to move
from there to here
but they're they're using they're using
a gravimetric technology to warp time
space
so i suppose that could be the same use
but
i don't think it's a situation kind of
like you know you walk out into a
wilderness and you see a whole parade of
people coming through a stargate
with you know four heads and sixteen
eyes and things like that
parade of crafts i don't know
it's the best answer i can give most
honest one i can give i don't know
i have not in 20 years of history
of of history with majestic heard of
anything
like that from them meaning as part of a
either a treaty system or an ongoing
operation uh however however
i've also heard reports of craft being
seen in the sky
i've seen craft in the sky which i was
not
you know directly involved like the the
may boyer park incident 73.
uh i've seen what i what i believe well
i have to say lights in the sky
about craft we've seen um come on we've
seen she has seen craft
and and you know she's not feeding me
full a line of bull you can stare at the
sky
and see the crafts zipping around
well there are meteors too and there are
there are also experimental aircraft
of various types there are also back
engineered
uh aircraft
uh which are are being spotted to
the triangles according to what you're
saying
there is a treaty in which we had
stargates
or access to wormholes that we
mechanically
opened and closed yes based on a treaty
system in which
we we were allowed to get information
and get and send
information back and forth but that we
didn't use to go out
but they used to come in substantially
yes
okay but we've closed all those down
according to where what you're telling
us
yes okay so now i'm asking where's the
yellow book now
but there are natural stargates out
there that they can use any time they
want so they no longer have use of our
stargates
so it's in a sense of a treaty well
have access anywhere okay if they do
let's pause it if they do
for a moment the ones that we have to be
concerned about would be the p-45s
because they are looking to justify
their own history they would be very
happy
aside from being paid off constantly
they would be very happy to see their
own history justified
how are they paid off uh they're paid
off with technology
with assistance in the past they were
paid off with a certain number of
abductions per year
what would they do to those people
aside from a longitudinal genetic drift
study
that's enough uh you know people were
some of them were literally
handed over and i consider illegal and i
consider it a a
violation of um of international law
considered a crime against humanity
and that's why we did what i did what i
did
to to stand up against it as best as i
could
and to get it off the books what about
the idea that some
p-45s have shape-shifted
you know excuse the terminology but into
human form
are here working in the government under
a human form furthering their own
you know uh substantial it is a
substantial probability that they have
the ability because
i've interacted with ones that would uh
ostensibly look human
and i really don't like talking about
the so-called man in black or men in
black
right but uh phenomenon men in black
those were people that are beings that
you know and you went in our last
discussion
into quite a description of that kind of
being but i'm talking about somebody who
is acting like you and me looking like
you and me
absolutely undetectable no
and and and still could be furthering or
could even be they are they're not
j-rods if they are they're not j-rods
um orions possible
possible they are very very brilliant
people the short interactions very short
interactions
that i had with them i was impressed
where
whereas i would not want to be spending
that much time around p45s
at all i i would have enjoyed
i would have a fact i would have felt
privileged speaking with them
um further uh they're talking about when
you say orions are you talking about the
nordics
i think that's how they're they're
usually they're they've been called
talls or at all they're they're they're
essentially yeah uh um you know the
anthropomorphic
uh very tall uh human beings with blonde
hair
very large eyes very blue pretty eyes
uh larger than our eyes as in ratio to
to cranium size the orbits are larger et
cetera
just brilliant just absolutely brilliant
people and
what i found most intriguing about them
is how they modulated
what i consider their brilliance through
emote emotion
the the emotions coming them from them
were
so less rudimentary they were so more
complex
than what even i experienced with kaela
i
would have really enjoyed spending some
more time with them
okay but they're here on this planet
interacting with us well they interacted
with us i'm not certain if there are
presently any
on earth or not right now um
i would say that that you know they're
50 000 years
a little more than that ahead of us but
given the the uh the the similarity
between body structure between between
uh size even and body structure uh
the cephaloth to thoracic ratio
similar enough i think they could
probably uh if their eyes didn't look
the way their eyes look
they could probably get away with
walking around
but their eyes are they're way larger
than ours
and they look like essentially like
these bratz dolls that the
little tween girls are going after
nowadays you know the eyes are too large
you see these eyes these hyper-sized
eyes i mean it's fine on a bratz doll
but if you walk this thing out onto the
street
it's gonna get picked out very quickly
okay so i i just don't think so
now i i at the same time i have to say
are they smart enough to probably get
away with it
figure out how maybe
maybe i doubt it personally because i
you know i've met a lot of very
interesting
but a lot of a few strange people in the
last four and a half years
talking with the public who believe that
there are
literally reptilians walking around that
are wearing masks
and things like that now
you know i'm a little more rooted in
reality i hate to put it that way but
uh no i joked with her uh
that i wanted to do something over at
the the first place where we were at for
uh for uh my debriefing i said when the
debriefing
gets done what i wanted to do
is i wanted to hire some special effects
people for real
would end the debriefing and then we
would stop and then we would begin
filming with another camera
and i was gonna i was just suggesting a
joke
it never got pulled off somebody
what i was gonna do is have a special
effects person work up
worked me up with my face over the top
of a reptilian face and i was going to
rip it off and go
god i'm tired of these human masks and
just have this little segment put out
there as a joke
but she told me that people would take
it seriously
you know i don't know i've got a strange
sense of humor i guess i
okay but you had a dealing with p45s
p52s
and and these beings are they're their
treaty system is being appeared to
adhere to because they are here
in underground bases monitoring us at
all times
because otherwise how do they know that
we are abiding by so-called trees
supposedly we broke treaties isn't this
isn't this right uh well we have we have
um strained oh ho i've got to be
we have strained the treaty system more
than once
so have the p-45s right
we have in fact we have in fact
come into conflict
with one another at certain times these
conflicts have been
amicably resolved
uh and we are are presently in an
amicable
state with one another
um
we're not the only ones with the looking
glass technology that can look in to
other timelines
in other words they have the equipment
too sure and so it's not that difficult
for those who might be wishing to
enforce the treaty on their
great great ancestors we to
look into the present time as a an
expression of them looking into their
own past
and watching it change okay so
are in a sense you're saying they know
what we're going to do before we do it
they know the probabilities and so they
are
they are substantially capable of
interacting with us if they feel that
those probabilities are moving to
eventuate
their own history uh as they have it
written for them
as being an outcome and they they find
that the p50 foods
p52s find that as a as a an unacceptable
outcome
so they're pushing their advantage
whenever they can
they're pushing the advantage of not
justifying their own past
so that they may either split off on
their own timeline
but that their own history would not
eventuate a catastrophe
now if you consider that pushing their
own advantage sure
now the p45s the characterization that
you place pushing their own advantage
i would say that that was an appropriate
characterization
that they would be yeah yeah yeah the
p52s are
much more amicable and a little farther
along
um um i just say that they
they're a little more spiritually adept
the p-52 orions uh certainly more than
the p-45
j-rods uh they're extremely mechanical
very very logical uh
yet uh ruthless
extremely you're speaking of the p-45
yeah they have no problem picking up
somebody like me out of the middle of a
park
and shoving a probe up as wazoo to test
him yeah
they've got no problem with that at all
i have however a substantial problem
with that i think
other folks who have been uh largely
abducted not everybody but
you know a fair fair number of them also
have a problem with that
okay what about the idea that um we have
we have somebody jim sparks i don't know
if you know who he is he's written a
book called the keepers
um i'm i'm uh i'm aware of jim sparks
as he is the personal friend of
a couple folks with whom we uh became
close acquaintances
uh and okay okay so
he's telling us that he has conscious
recall
of his abduction experiences and that
he that groups of people were abducted
by
what sounds like p45s because they have
real issues with control um and put in
that was said nicely and put in front of
computer screens and shown uh you know
scenes of the earth um you know first
a beautiful earth and potentially you
know fantastic
futures and then shown the opposite of
that
so that what would be generated in these
people
is a love of the planet and a desire to
make it a better place
and also there is an aim to this
they are aware that our
emotions affect our state
our physical state that our
our orientation to the to the
energies which are available from the
the cosmos if you will
affect the state of our dna affect the
state of our health
and they are applying that as an
experimental protocol a rubric if you
will
to change the state of the people on
board so that they can sample them for
biological material
the fact of what we take away from it
is aside the point
that that that is just whatever we take
away and then it's our take on it and
then a person an experiencer if you will
then goes off into our world and says
how he or she
feels about the experiment uh or about
what they were subjected to
or about what they were shown but
there's a cold hard cruel reality
involved here
that we are being picked up from
biological material as
an experimental protocol okay meaning
what these people that are being
abducted are doing
is providing you know dna providing eggs
and sperm so that they can
what experiment or create their own
future beings
uh what they're trying to do is they're
trying to ameliorate
their own neuropathology which is
already starting
and is becoming an issue within their
populace at their timeline
concerning reproduction but how
people do they need to figure that out
well
as many as what they wanted to take
until they get the answer figured out
and they really don't care because it's
the old proposition
of of the anthill along the side of the
road
in africa uh you know you you
we are to them from their perspective
the ants on the anthill
and how would we feel about stepping on
one or two ants or a few million ants
out of an ant hill uh it it may cause
a few people with i consider higher
intelligence
some moral problems just stepping on
them but you know
how much would we really care about that
they feel that way about us
they want to use us as biological
material watch us get destroyed
to to justify their own background their
own history
and at the same time take the biological
material from us and solve their own
personal
present problems okay but how are we
fighting them
what do you mean in other words you've
just told me they have a tremendous
amount of control
they're abducting huge number of people
and they're continuing their experiments
well they have the numbers who are being
abducted now are not treaty related
in other words there is nobody being
taken presently
zero authorized by treaty i can't stop
them from taking
people out of their beds at night but i
did influence the other
is it rolling is h.g wells
the epilogue in his time machine i i
the the time machine by h.d wells i keep
this on my desk
okay says one cannot choose but to
wonder
will he ever return it may be that he
swept back into the past
and fell among the blood-drinking hairy
savages of the age of unpolished stone
into the abyss of the cretaceous sea or
among the grotesque saurians the huge
reptilian brutes of the jurassic times
he may even now if i may use the phrase
be wandering on some pleisiosaurus
haunted olytic coral reef
or beside the lonely saline lengths of
the triassic age
or did he go forward into one of the
nearer ages
in which men and still are still men
but with the riddles of our own time
answered
and it's worrisome problems solved
into the manhood of the race for i for
my own part
cannot think that these latter days of
weak experiment
fragment fragmentary theory and mutual
discord are indeed man's culminating
time
i say from my own part he i know
for the question had been discussed
among us long before
the time machine was made thought
maturelessly of the advancement of
mankind and saw on the growing pile of
civilization
only a foolish heaping that must
inevitably fall back upon
and destroy its makers in the end
if that is so it remains for us to live
as though it were not so
but to me the future is still black and
blank
is a vast ignorance lit at a few
casual places by the memory of his story
and i have by me for my comfort two
strange white flowers shriveled now
and brown and flat and brittle to
witness that even when mind and strength
had gone
gratitude and a mutual tenderness still
uh lived on in the heart of man
that means that means a lot to me i
actually hold on to that i hold on to
that so much
as such a prescient
bit of thought that i actually keep
um the flowers from my
great-grandmother's grave
in there with it you know i don't know
what's going to happen in the future and
all i can do is hope like everybody else
and pray like everybody else
okay well thank you dan um you know
and i understand that we we've actually
over taxed you
and and asked you you know uh an
incredible amount of
of information here and you've been very
generous and and i really want to thank
you
well it's my it's my responsibility
to say truth okay well you
you definitely do that and um what i
would like to also say
is how do we
fight them for the people that are out
there
and what we know is
unity is one way in which we are
progressing out of a certain timeline
into another right yes okay
but if you have it's you add to that
for people well to me it's unity
yes constant that's good that's very
good constant vigilance
uh also there are
many operatives not just like marcia and
myself but many operatives who are
coming out of the old majestic
who have had experiences like this most
of those operatives are not willing to
say anything
however that doesn't mean that they're
not doing things
we are acting in concert with some of
those operatives
and with other groups
to try to motivate the
the information from the inside which
could be used for the beneficial
application for humanity uh to humanity
and we're doing our very best uh to
motivate that through and
some of it is is being seen very little
snippets of it uh the projects that
we're proposing that are going to be
coming
in the future like fargo and isis um
i guess the only thing i could i can
really say aside from the constant
vigilance is
is
to act to the right
when a wrong needs to be righted or
there needs to be a stand
taken for what is right versus wrong
that
that our present time doesn't mean that
we have to
that we're so modern we have to get rid
of the
ideal for the real we
create our own reality and so we
should in my view act toward the ideal
to create a better reel for ourselves