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welcome to next buffalo pilot with penny
bradley
and today we have a special
we have ileana the star traveler and we
have
john warner iv and i have bios on
both and i'm going to do
ladies first
so eliana the star traveler
is a certified native american shaman
psychic crystal healer energy healer
past life regression and soul retriever
retrieval practitioner hypnosis
practitioner
and an akashic records reader
eliana is a successful self-published
author on amazon of a book
called crystal grids the art of healing
with crystals
this book teaches about various healing
crystal modalities and how to work with
crystal grids
in order to manifest your success and
achieve your goals in life through
self-hypnosis protocols ileana
was able to learn much about her secret
space program experiences
of being an ssp asset working on the
mars basis for the planetary
corporations
in s in this their cybernetic labs
creating biological drug serums
biological
human cyborgs neural link implants
and operating regenerative technologies
that are the
holographic medical pods and the meditek
units
through doing past life regressions
ileana learned that she is an
l pleiadian hybrid who is a star
traveler
the l race of extraterrestrials are
12 dimensional beings who embody both
female and male forms
they are able to change their biology to
look like different beings
and change the forms of their bodies etc
they are a race of beings
who can change matter on a biological
scale
and they have biological
living light ships that they travel in
the el rays are negotiators and they
help to bring
peace to different planetary systems and
to prevent wars in galaxies
throughout her life iliana has had
recall memories of experiencing having
reptilian abductions
especially since her mid-twenties where
she had been taken into
underground bases in europe where her
blood and immune system had been
experimented on
with nanite technologies to try and kill
her
yet she survived and is now disclosing
what happens
in reality with et objections et
contact experiences and secret space
program service welcome ileana
thank you penny let me read john's real
quick
and i forgot to add the two
here that you asked sorry about that
uh the son of retired senator
unfortunately now deceased john w
warner the third republican of virginia
former secretary of the navy
and chairman of the armed services
committee
kbe and catherine mellon banking
heiress and daughter of philanthropist
paul
mellon uh oss kbe
some of you will know what those stand
for
warner says growing up in a family that
had a seat at
many of the most historically
significant tables
led to his insatiable quest to find and
reveal hidden truths behind world events
an avid researcher of revisionist
alternative history warner began
writing this um
the book series uh the book series is
called little anton
and i've read it and it's fabulous i
recommend it warner began writing this
book series during a two-year
long recovery from a racing car
accident yes the man sitting with us
this evening or afternoon depending on
where you live
is a former race car driver
um his extensive research for little
anton
and lions tiger bear which is still in
progress
evolved into a gripping historical
narrative
that reveals hidden truths about
technological
advancements and prominent leaders
active
in the world war ii area era including
adolf
hitler heinrich himmler walter geraldo
ferdinand porsche and winston churchill
um there's also mention of
franklin roosevelt and
a melon who was part of
alcoa aluminum at the time
so it's historical fiction but it's more
historical than
fiction and uh
i'd like to welcome you john thank you
so i have no idea what we're going to
talk about today
so um
and my producer is sitting there with a
shit-eating grin on his face because he
knows
this means it's going to go crazy
so um anyway
uh john sent me the pdf copy of his book
and it took me a while to read it it's
1010 pages
bit of a juggernaut and
it's a very compelling story it's a
little confusing at the first
because he follows different people
but eventually by the third book all the
people come together
so it it makes sense
um iliana has also given me a copy of
her book
and um i'm not
personally into the crystal part but i
think
that she did a fine job with it so
um if you're into crystals i think
you should consider her book as well so
um i think what we
have in common here
is an interest in ssp
so i think we're going to start off
with ileana's
experiences in space that's okay
yeah sure so my experiences
started here on earth actually from two
to ten
i had been abducted by reptilians black
draso and sherab invictus
so that's where it started in europe i
was born in the ukraine
um and when i was like in my bed
i would see a black tunnel or a portal
open up in my room
and i would see these black 14 16
foot tall reptilians come in take me by
my hands
walk me through the portal to
underground bases
um and that's not in the ukraine it's
outside ukraine
so they have ability to open up a portal
and take you anywhere they want
and it was a black portal and i just
when we would come out of the portal
i would see a cavern system we would
walk through the cavern system
it would open up somewhere in a base
there was human personnel there was the
reptilians
both types i would see children that
were in cages
children chained up to the walls i would
see these metallic
like beds where the children would be
put on and they would be experimented on
what they did with me was in fact my
blood
with nanite technology which ruined my
autoimmune system
it almost felt like my blood was
sizzling it was supposed to kill me but
it didn't
i survived that um so that's where all
this started from with abductions with
the reptilians
so i have a healthy skepticism against
certain reptilians that's just because
of my experiences
i don't judge them some are positive
beings some are not so much
there's both types there's many
different species of reptilians just to
disclose fully um and then
in my 20s i started remembering my
l pleiadian lifetimes with the l-race
experiences
and being on their biological ships
learning energy what energy is how
energy works
healing modalities how to manipulate
energy
how to biologically yep this l
species is this the same race that we
know
in the bible is elohim no it's not the
elohim it's a totally different race
they're 12th dimensional
they don't have wings they're about from
anywhere from eight feet to 24 feet tall
but they're not angelic they're not of
the angel
species so they have their own
biological ships they could
think of star trek and q right so that's
the type of beings they are
they just don't manipulate space matter
in time they're
they're not manipulative beings they're
here to help people
to stop wars to negotiate treaties
to help people advance in their
spiritual evolution if you will
so they taught me a lot about biology
and healing a lot about
just really shifting matter
in timelines and manifesting positive
things and timelines and
changing the future even to some degree
so that's what i learned from them in my
mid-20s and then when i was 29 i started
remembering the ssp memories
of working on mars in the cybernetics
labs
creating the biological drug serums the
human biological cyborgs
neural link implants in my brain and
that
recently through through a hypnosis
session i found out that sort of
technology
uh also how these um
med beds for holographic medical pods
that's the more correct term for it how
they work
and they work on plasma and crystalline
technology
so it's a combination of class i had no
idea how they worked because the
technology i was exposed to
worked on a variant of black view
yeah now these don't work on a variant
of goo they work on plasma and
crystalline technology energy
how they're activated and they put the
person inside the pod and has
sometimes a cylindrical metal base
silver
or green or blue and the lid closes over
it and it's
sort of like a glass substance but it's
not glass it's
something different and then you're in a
stasis you're floating in spaces
so you're asleep and it regenerates
whatever it needs to regenerate organs
dna
tissues traumatized brain issues
anything it could regenerate anything
literally
and again this is run on a combination
of plasma and crystalline
energy frequencies the frequencies
everywhere in the pod
and the pod is connected to holographic
interfaces
outside the pod so if a technician has
to program it and look at something they
can do that
externally or the pod could just do the
self healing
how it needs to without needing to
monitor it it really depends on what
they're fixing
and healing it can even bring back
your natural dna template when you were
the healthiest in your life it could
regenerate that
so that's the holographic medical pods
there's the portable meditech units
say if a soldier says the asset soldier
operative if they've been injured out in
battle
the meditech unit leaves the cybernetics
lab it's pre-programmed to the location
of the person because they're wearing
the smart suit
so it's anti-grav it levitates to them
it opens up it puts the person into the
meta tech unit
stabilizes their life force energy
puts them in stasis until they can get
to the
holographic medical pod to be fully
healed so it's kind of like a temporary
transport and it keeps you alive it
keeps you stable even if you're
on the brink of dying it still keeps you
alive and it's connected to all the
functions of the
smartsuit that you're in that monitors
your temperature
monitors your life force signs
everything
so your smartsuit keeps you alive and
healthy
when you're outside inside it's your
basic uniform
even in ssp and the planetary core bases
uh and it has nanotechnology so it
controls
your clothing it can make it look like
anything you want
size it it basically um
conforms to any shape of body fit
it stop it stops you from going to the
bathroom so you don't need to go to the
bathroom it controls your fluids
controls your biology while you're
wearing it
so it basically keeps you in shape keeps
you healthy
and monitors everything who you are
your biology so that's that's what i
would
i did 16 back so through the quantum
leap time travel program
and it's time dilation so it could
literally
dilate time between earth mars what
what was like 11 years really was 60
years
of service but it it just it could it
could dilate
the quan quantum time matrix itself
so to you it seems like you only did
11 years but you did 60 years because
again
they could loop time they could
change the matrix of time itself if they
want
um and again i did most of
my work in the cybernetics labs i
created dt human hybrids
i know a lot about genetics i know a lot
about manipulating human biology
that was my work there again operating
the holographic medical pods metatech
units
and creating this cyborgs augmenting
them with different types of
implants and biological drug serums to
acclimate them to living on mars and
other planets
so that's basically what i did in the
secret space program
um the bulk of my 60 and back i was in
uh dark fleet and reger
i was trained as an assassin to haul
people into the planetary
barge prisons where i saw them tortured
swimming in blood in their own liquids
since they defected from the often or
other ssb
groups and that was kind of the
punishment then they were put into the
regen
tanks all their physical scars were
healed but their mental traumas remained
so that was the often part um
and before i was put on mars i remember
being on lunar space operations
and seeing this huge base circular base
for with 40 levels
that's where they train you about the
different et
species what you can expect when you're
out in space
um so it's like a two year training
basically
to acclimate you to different et species
cultures languages
behavioral protocols so
you know how to how to behave properly
when you're meeting different
cultures and species and when you're on
different planets so that's the
acclimation
adjustment part before you actually go
into your service
so that was mars and i also remember
being on
several different uh space platforms
that move around they have engines
and that's planetary corp owned and
again
sometimes the um biological human
cyborgs
their their implants need adjustments so
i would be transported on
the stations if you will to adjust
things
what is a biological
cyborg as opposed to a regular one
okay so a human biological cyborg
is a human being that has all their
organs but they're augmented
with various implants it could be to
make them faster
it could be to make them stronger to be
smarter
but they're they're still they have
their organs intact
so they're not fully cybernized they're
not
fully cyborg their organs are still
there
and a cyborg what's the difference
between that
and what the kruger people are calling
enhanced humans
enhanced humans can be anything really
from having implants
and that still makes you a cyborg or um
almost being a full cyborg where you
don't have your organs anymore
everything
is inorganic and cybernetic so
organs are replaced with cybernetics
limbs
bones anything because when you're
cybernized
you can either choose to have your
organic components
with augments of implants or
you know if something's wrong with your
organs you can choose to have
replicated cybernetic organs do you
actually get to choose this or is it
chosen for you
well it really like if it's if they
can't for some reason regenerate your
organs
in the medical pods or the holographic
holographic medical pods or regen tanks
then sometimes it's cybernetics that you
get
if for some reason they can't fix you
completely
then you get the cybernetics that's the
other alternative
or you can end up in a clone your soul
can be taken out of your body and put in
a clone
or an avatar body which is a synthetic
body
so there's so many different ways your
soul can end up being
in different bodies male or female so
that's what i
was doing in these labs but i worked
with purely the biological human cyborgs
i did not replace organs with
cybernetics
so i only did neural link implants and
other implants on the body
because i believe still keeping some
organic parts
that soldiers deserve to be organic
to some extent so i did not participate
in full cybernization
that was done by other technicians in
other sections of these labs
i just did the implants and to make sure
everything functioned correctly with the
human body
yeah so that's kind of my son you have
any questions
holy cats um not sure where to begin
um i do incorporate some of this
information in my new book
lion tiger bear it's in the 1942
desert war um but um
it's about a german airship base and uh
my team of characters steal
this anti-gravity german airship and
they they do encounter mid bed
technology
they do encounter portals and and some
time travel
and some aldebarans uh which are known
as the giza
um i think that's going back
to where they were supposedly an
aldebaran base underneath the giza
plateau
and they the word is they had some
cross-colonization with the germans
in world war ii and before world war ii
uh probably along with you know some of
the other
regressives uh it makes sense to me and
that's sort of how i wrote it
um but they my characters do travel to
agartha
uh sort of by mistake um
even though they're in an airship they
they spend a lot of time tunneling
underground
uh due to unforeseen you know
circumstances but i
have to put it in in more of a mild
setting rather than
what you're talking about
so that it flows with the narrative a
little better but i get into some hard
stuff
in my book uh there's satanic ritual
abuse
there's a chapter in there that my wife
refuses to read again
um so it i touch upon
some of this stuff and i molded it into
a world war
ii type uh narrative um
but you know it all makes sense you know
uh
the history of it and that's sort of my
angle
of being a historian military historian
and otherwise
um you know and i talk about breakaway
germans in antarctica i don't
show it but it there's a conversation
between two on and every ss
guys ernst schaefer and edmund gear
with my crew and you know
they're getting a download of
information of what's really going on in
the war
and uh so it's it's been very
interesting but i do
touch upon some of these technologies
i think it's you know it's important for
people to understand my next
question is how did you find out about
these technologies since you are not
one of us who survived them
from you and elena and everyone else
okay so you've been listening for a long
time
oh yeah probably uh eight years now
okay uh eight or nine years uh to you
guys
i can't remember the first time when i i
did it but i was
you know researching all kinds of stuff
but over the years you know over the
last 20 years it's all kind of
intertwined rather nicely
i was in an argument today i'm on a
forum
email forum with some physicists and you
know other people
and one of the physicists said you know
i need facts and i'm not running
it's like dude if you're waiting for
facts and you know
what's a fact a pentagon briefing a
washington post
article is that a fact does that make it
a fact i mean
you're going to be waiting forever to
figure this stuff out you've got to use
imagination
which you know and and
that's what that's more of a mainstream
forum but they do get into all the tic
tac
stuff and my cousin chris mellon and you
know everyone's sort of slamming each
other pretty hard
um it's a rough it's a rough forum but
it's very interesting and i try to weave
some of this stuff you know that we're
talking about into that but you have to
do it slowly because
it'll just burst people's ear drums and
their frontal lobes will swell and
they'll start to sweat
yeah my my
uh secret group
on facebook i introduced them to the
concept of homo capensis
yesterday and they're having heads
bursting huh
is this different from homo galacticus
no
it's an earth race oh it's another
separate
yeah it's the species
um the species name
for the folks that everybody else calls
the elite
so oh so that you're implying the night
part of that
yes i don't feel any different for
anyone else
it's other than the imagination you know
yeah
well i'm not i'm not finding figures
because
my understanding is that the ssp
folks and the super soldiers were all
chosen because
they had that heritage so
it's somewhere between 10 and 15
of the population so it's not like
you're a freak or anything if you
are just different
well i've always been different
that much is true you know
i'm not thinking about you it was a
concept that they had not yet
had and i introduced it and there's this
thread with like 80 comments and most of
them are people freaking out at me not
understanding what i said and it's okay
because
they probably never will
do you think that the great awakening of
people are
mostly in that group
i think some people are going to wake up
to
some things and
the majority are not
and i think that's just the way it is
and
so i speak and occasionally i'll get
frustrated and just dump a bunch of
information and then they'll sit there
and go
for the next month until i do another
drop of something else
yeah that's pretty much what happens
isn't it eliana
oh the mad beds all that
lovely disinformation that trump just
released the med beds they're out
and anybody can get access to them um
yeah um and also
that you know the us military secretly
flying out
sick people to use the med meds in
australia that galactic consciousness
report
uh when i read that i'm like where is
this coming from why are people
it's coming from wishful thinking
yeah it's wishful thinking i'm
still a realist and a very logical
person
just because i experienced working with
them on mars
until i see it in every health center
every hospital
released to the public when i see it is
when i'll believe it
because planetary corp has a 100
year release cycle so
when i looked at their plans that's not
the first thing to be released to the
human public
it's the neural link implants it's the
cybernetics technology that's like on a
30-50 year
plan of release darpa darpa is doing
that already
elon musk is doing neuralink so we're
seeing the first stages
definitely doing doing neural links
not neuro neuro is 300 more years
advanced
than whatever i had a chip behind my
left ear
that connected me to the ship's computer
where i was
navigator and his
device attaches to the same part of the
brain
but his device doesn't appear to be
anywhere near as sophisticated
yeah it's not because neurolink implants
their uh cybernetic nanotech with
nanofiber gold that open up it has an
energy core
the implants they're they're given
they're injected through the skin they
go through the bloodstream
past the blood-brain barrier go to
whatever side of the head they need to
the energy core opens up
the nanofiber stuff connects to your
neurons and your axons
the implants are activated and they can
teach you anything you want they can
give you any download or upload of
information
from the databases the holographic
technology anything
i had a
in implant that was star-shaped
like an eight-point star over
my right eye on my forehead and
it gave me a readout in front of me
nobody else could see it it was
completely
it was completely in my mind but i
perceived it as external and it would
give me a readout on
air temperature wind speed
and if i encountered a biological it
would give me a
description of that species and
whether it was considered hostile or not
and if it was
a human it would tell me which faction
they were
affiliated with
well those neuro-link implants do the
same things
it also allows you to remotely pilot and
control ships
it allows you to talk to other ssb
assets who have the neurolink
implants and it trains you it can
provide you with
any informational download to do any
type of a job
you don't need to be trained for months
at a time by a human to do a job
who's well versed in it the implant
gives you
all the information about any job you
need to know how to do
downloads the information to your brain
and you're ready to do the job
it basically is your trainer um
i was in knoxville and i was in kruger i
don't have memories of being in any of
the others
and that particular technology was not
available in either one of those
so this is something
different well it was these girls the
audience needs to know that the
different factions use different
technologies from each other that they
are
basically operating like countries on
earth would
that those are national state secrets
yes and they're not going to just give
them
to planet earth because their national
state
secrets yeah classified means classified
like top level classification um
i had a hypnosis regression done
recently and the hypnosis practitioner
asked
so when are the med beds coming not for
another 100 years and if anybody
tries to smuggle it off mars planetary
corp
they might get killed for it if they try
to bring this openly to the public
they'll be killed for it uh
getting killed would be probably the
kindest
thing that they would do to them yeah
other
maybe torture even but the answer was
not coming yet
and anybody who tries to get that tech
out
to take it from mars from planetary corp
they'll likely end up dead or missing
off somewhere you know you're gone
that's it that's the concept no one will
ever be charged for it no
no you know secret well are
certain crimes on earth that only the
witnesses
ever get charged yeah i mean assassins
coming
john yeah you know that that there are
some crimes on earth that only the
witnesses ever get charged
yeah i think i think injustice is rife
everywhere corruption
i i don't think there's a country on
earth that's not corrupt
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but you know this is an excellent
sort of dovetail into since i'm i want
to make sure your viewers know i'm
i'm not an ssp veteran or claim to be
um but i know a lot about uh various
things
um and it makes sense to me um
the one thing you know i'd like to ask
both of you
being the divine feminine um
you know how do you see the next 25
years
going forward as far as the ssp
veterans are concerned and the reason i
asked that
is because something you said you know
penny and i
have email discussions and you know
she's going to
hopefully going to contact in the desert
in 2022
and i was thinking because i was
reviewing the
the past you know these past conferences
and things like that
and i could be wrong but i think the
general consensus
is a lot of them are just moving slowly
towards
more you know benevolent you know
consciousness
workshops and you know uh holistic
uh baking classes and you know
you know and you know it's part of human
nature to kind of if something's a
little bit too
scary and horrible to kind of drift away
from it
and i've seen that over the years i mean
the last 20 years
you could sort of see that and i tell
people
you know when i write people or
interview it's like
you know back in the 90s when they were
talking about grays and abductions and
my labs and
these things genetics and whatever
people thought
you know greer and dolan and all these
guys were
nuts you know and fast forward 25 years
you know later and here we are and
everyone's like oh
the ssp veterans oh my god they're all
crazy
and it's like boy you know you can i can
you know i'm an expert at seeing history
repeat itself and so i wanted to get
both
your both of your opinions as to
how this is going to go forward
because um you know there's a
good portion of the disclosure movement
in my opinion
that's just trying to push this sideways
and it's like
no no no you know i'm all for you know
raising vibration and positivity
i agree with that but that they're
they're wholly ignoring the darker stuff
and you know what solutions you you guys
might
uh have for that well
iliana i host my own show
i choose my own guests who i want to
interview
and i look at the abduction aspects i
look at the ssp
aspects i look at the healing aspects so
i basically will interview anyone who i
think is genuine
on all of these aspects and
my mission is to get the truth out
through
interviews through um
having a wider audience and again i
don't limit
one topic or one thing my channel covers
broadly all of these things and
i connect to people all over the world
to interview
anywhere and i do it through digital
media like
like this honestly going to conferences
and knocking on doors is like trying to
break a brick wall
all of these researchers
these scientists these these people are
all at the conferences and every year
it's the same old thing
and i'm not into the same old thing of
excluding ssp experiencers or abductees
or contactees
all of them are put in the same batch of
people
contact experiencers ssb experiencers
abductees where's the evidence where's
the proof you gotta prove it where's
your videos where's your images
how like if you can't prove the science
of
of any of your story how any of this
tech works
you're not being taken seriously no
matter what you do
so it's really about posting your own
shows like what penny and i do
having the guests on also not just
experiencers but also people like you
john with a different perspective
like being inclusive and welcoming of
everyone
who has something important to share and
say
for the disclosure movement so honestly
i don't go to any of these things
physically
i use my time wisely and i interview
digitally
and it's out quickly it's edited it's
out people all over the world can
read it uh listen to it see it
and the info is out for the whole public
to know
i don't put things behind paid walls
everything is
out in the open so that's my way of
contributing to disclosure it's not the
conferences
it's the shows that make the difference
i've never been to one
and i i don't you know i'll tow you with
the idea of going to one if only to see
penny and eric and maybe some other
people
if it does happen for penning um
but i certainly wouldn't talk or
anything like that i would just go
and observe but my my general feeling
throughout my 60 years of life is uh
yeah there's a lot of hot air and and a
lot of the
same old stuff and uh
you know it's it's it's i think petty's
penny said it
correctly in its disclosure movement is
kind of eating itself
uh it's uh you know it's factionalized
just like the deep state
is you know it's you know there are
factions everywhere and there's
no way to unite the factions um
and so you know going forward everyone
seems to sort of want to do their own
thing which i think is probably wise
um but i'm seeing
right now is a push
back from
the powers that be a lot of our channels
are being deleted from youtube
um a lot of the
separate websites have been shut down
under excuse of copyright violations
or because they were considered
extremist without that ever being
defined and
it's to the point where we're being
forced
behind paywalls just to
pay in my case the bandwidth
um i recently had enough donations to
buy my own server
but i found out it's going to cost money
every month to have this server online
because it still has to be connected to
the internet
well i'm on social security disability
and yes i get donations
but they're not something that i can
bank on
because every month that's a different
amount and
so when i set up this server it's going
to
have to be behind a paywall to pay for
the bandwidth
and it's not that i'm trying to exclude
anyone it's simply
i have to pay the internet and i'm
trying to keep the cost as low as
possible and still do that
so i have been one of those that
everything i
did was available to the public
i've been public for five years
my show and my
youtube channel are about documenting
the disclosure movement
everyone in the community whether
they're researchers who think i'm
personally full of
or whether it's it's experiencers
some of whom have some really
dramatic stories that i wonder
were they real or were they nightmares
and then there are people
that every time you talk to them it's
like they've woken up to a new day
and i've been interviewing these people
and i've been interviewing people who
have had ongoing
in interaction with various
extraterrestrials
um the ones that i'm most acquainted
with are the folks who have
interacted with jahami the folks
historically known as
anunnaki and there's a lot of
argument in the community over whether
where those people came from
but they are still
the gods of earth's history so
um this is what i've been trying to do
now i have spoken at what is it
three conferences and i went to one
before that
to find out what they were about
i go to conferences because otherwise
people show up at my door
if i give them a once a year opportunity
to meet me in person
they don't feel as compelled to show up
at my house
um this isn't as big an
issue for men i'm a 65 year old woman
i have spinal injuries
i really don't want a total
stranger who thinks he's in love with me
who thinks he's having a telepathic
love affair with me to show up at my
door
that's frightening yeah
uh i agree with you penny i had an
almost client who wanted psychic
reading sessions with me he's in germany
and he fell in love with me like oh
she's this she's
great um and i referred that person to a
different healer a male
healer and that male healer is still
having
issues telling that person to leave me
alone
and i had to write emails i'm like look
i will report you to the police to the
german and the canadian police if you
don't leave me alone
i do not share your feelings and
i don't know do not reciprocate your
feelings of love and wanting to
physically come and live with me
and for me to train you on your
abilities i'm not interested i don't
want you as a client i don't want you
emailing me
block the person everywhere and now i
recently hear that he's back obsessing
over me again
so it's like they listen to these
interviews and they
build up for themselves that we're some
kind of goddesses
you know that we have something more
special than anybody else and we don't
our chances are interesting we're human
beings who have been
through hell and survived and we're
talking about it because we want the
hell
stopped for others yes but it doesn't
mean that
somebody has to focus in on us and get
attached
emotionally to us as if we can provide
them with
what they need because we can't hey
world
i have a partner we have been living
together for 20 years and he
he is stuck with me and nobody else is
going to be
in that position so don't even think
about it
yeah and i'm very happily uh not
interested in men at the moment i'm
interested in women so
there there's i'm openly bi and right
now i have no interest in men so that
my german stalker can now know he needs
to look for somebody else to attach
himself to
i'm not interested well if it helps i
promise to stop obsessing over
you two goddesses oh
well you can admire you know yeah
you can admire from afar
yeah i did get a guy who
on the email um i've had a bunch of
people email me
but this guy only wanted to talk about
liz taylor and ufos
he claimed he could he could talk to her
you know
through the astral and i had to kind of
block him after a while yeah
she was your stepmom wasn't she what
she was your stepmom for a while wasn't
she yeah you know she was a great person
you know she cared about people she
cared about you know people with aids
and that she did believe in ufos and e.t
uh i talked with her about it all
through the same she saw one with eddie
fisher off the coast of california
and she said it was doing zigzags and
shot straight up
out of space you know she believed all
that
she was a bit of a conspiracy theorist
as was my mother
or my mother still is she's 84.
um so they were a great influence upon
me when i back when i was a teenager
um they you know they really were
but um yeah i mean anytime you put
yourself
out there you're gonna get yeah
people coming out of the woodwork with
you know
you know hats with the propellers on
them and
well this is actually why i go to
conferences
and so they have an opportunity to press
the flush without showing up at my house
yeah and i'm certain people because i do
energy healing i do psychic readings i
do a lot of different things
energetically
and once i started reading the emails i
could see the profile of this male
client potential oh no this is a
lovelorn
person you gotta gently talk them down
and remove them from the sphere of
contact immediately
because i could see the obsession
i could see the male aspect of oh
i like her energy i like what she's
talking about i'm very attracted to that
i must go and physically meet her
and offer myself to meet her so she can
mentor me
and i said to him i'm not interested in
you physically leaving germany and
coming to my country
because i'm not interested in you as a
man i'm not attracted to you
no means no and this person was still
like yeah no means yes
i'm coming and i'm like no you're not
stay in your own lane
stay in your own country i don't share
your attraction no means
is one of the worst things that that
i've ever had to deal with
yeah well i mean this is the other thing
that i've had to deal with
is because many people watch my videos
listen to the listen to the network
and this show is being aired on
the american
prison system so every prisoner in the
united states
will get to listen to this at some point
so when you're dealing with a population
that a proportion of them are psychic
and they're listening to your voice they
make connection
and because they have made connection
they think there's a
bond there that isn't
and i have taken up putting up
so many layers of shielding
and most of it's mirrored so if they get
through the worst
parts all they do is see themselves
so i'm hoping that themselves are ugly
enough they don't want to go farther
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oh and i just project the energy
i'm a strong dangerous woman if you
think you want something for me and i
don't want it you ain't getting it
that's it
there's this strong projection of no
means no
and uh if you insist otherwise think
again
no that's not happening so that's what i
project in my responses
to people who generally have an
attraction to their
i i see his face he's like you guys have
been victimized
oh i'm not victimized i'm not i haven't
been yes
i have had them show up at my door more
than once
and the neighbors have actually
clustered around them and refused them
access to my door
yeah well my home has external cameras
so i can see who's coming a mile away i
have my fire eyes and i have my
laser taser so anyone who
insists on coming you have talked about
your collection of weapons before
yes if somebody insists on a visit
that's not authorized
they'll be lasered and tasered and taken
to the hospital
and physically removed
by any means necessary so i'm old
school i have assault weapons and
machine guns
yes um i don't shoot anybody no i don't
either
as hell scared him away i'm old school
but i'm smart enough not to say on
air what i do or do not have
well uh it's been said before and
implied before so
uh i don't use guns and violence as
force
but you know if somebody's coming
your way and invading your personal
space a little laser taser won't hurt
them
it'll just drop them and make them go to
the hospital for a little
psychiatrist and a visit to recuperate
so
i mean i've had stalkers email me
wanting to come over
and chat and stuff and i'm like uh think
again buddy
you'll be lasered and tasered that's my
response
um i have um
banned people on facebook and
on youtube because they were
telling the whole world anyone who would
listen
that they were having a telepathic love
affair with me
what does that even mean
um you've heard the term astral sex
yeah i've heard of it that's what they
i've never heard they're doing
i've never heard of it and now i can't
forget it
it's the special experience
well you know you know our dreams are
very interesting
and that's all takes place in the astral
i believe
we've all had those i've had you know
i've done everything
in in the astral in my dreams uh i just
had a dream
last night or the night before where you
know even though i was a racing driver i
came over a hill
going very fast in a car and my brakes
were out and i went through the guard
rail
over a cliff and the car went into the
water but i popped out of my body
and was hovering over the you know the
water
and i thought wow that was cool
but you know it's true i mean in in the
astral world
i wake up and i'm like oh my god i
cheated on my wife and my dreams
um that's not good but it's it's always
to as i think it's always a learning
experience
uh things that you know i have very
strange dreams like everyone else
but it's like you know it's like what
did i learn from that
you know but there's something in there
we'll need uh
sometimes i'll have an experience uh in
today's
times and i'll remember a dream from 25
years ago and
i thought i dreamed this you know
that's pretty poor psychic you know
thanks a lot but
i remember that i had a dream about it
and so i think it's a way of your higher
self telling you
you know my higher self calls me dummy
it says hey dummy
uh you know in 10 years you need you
need to start understanding these things
so when later on you won't freak out
over them you know
yeah but these astral um
telepathic communications or sexual
experiences
it's like these people think that
they're
interacting with you in the real world
in that environment
and they become so attached and
attracted
they don't know the difference between
astral reality and physical reality to
them it's
one and the same so then they need a
mental jolt
to get them out of that reality and say
uh
buddy dieting happening in any reality
whether astro or physical
that's just not energetically there
that's something that you think is there
but it's not
because the other person is not
reciprocating your telepathic
call to action to that attraction it's
not
there i think what happened when the
astral stays in the after
that's one of the things that i've had
the most
trouble with because where you've been
doing the readings on people ileana i
was doing
care counseling for seven years now
and the biggest problem that i see
in the people who are coming to me as
a group is they cannot
tell the difference between dream
state and memories
especially memories from a physical
reality that isn't on earth
so they're coming to me with astral
fantasies they're coming to me
with sheer dreams that are not even
about what they think it's about
and they're trying to present it to me
as
ssp memories but they're not calling
them memories it's well i had this dream
what do you think it means and i go
what did you have for dinner
people yeah well that's what what meds
did you take before you went to bed
and they get really offended but that's
where a lot of these are coming from
yeah and they get really offended
because they'll talk to me for six
months
and i will not verify
their dreams as having anything to do
with reality
it's not a memory until the dreamer says
it's a memory
yeah well i have those people too that
um
tried to distinguish was it a dream was
it a memory was an
experience they say we can look at it in
hypnosis and figure out which it was
whether it was real or not
so i don't do hypnosis with people
i do that to differentiate reality from
something else whether that was a
physical experience somewhere off world
whether that was a true dream or whether
it was a fantasy that happened in
someone's mind
i really go deep in the hypnosis to
figure out which one was it
whether it can be validated verified or
not
if it's a dream that they had and they
have a question whether that was real or
not we look at it in the hypnosis
and it wasn't if it was a dream it was a
dream and we'll figure that out
because it has no merit in physicality
a dream doesn't have any merit there's
nothing there behind it
a physical substance it's part of an
energetic experience it's
a dream even if it's a recurring dream
it does not make you a secret space
program veteran true
well so i'm not going to tell somebody
they were
unless they have active memories
and even if they were they shouldn't be
public
it's dangerous to be public well
unless you take the heat with whatever
you disclose
you take responsibility for what you say
on air live
yeah um and i make it no secret
what i what i'm trained in what i've
done how i've lived my life
i've said these things before publicly
are some of my alters i don't talk about
because the agencies they work for are
dangerous
and i will probably end up killed if i
do talk about them
um can we talk about the uaf stuff and
the tic tacs and what's going on yes
full disclosure uh john you you're
you're personally involved with some of
the people
like chris mellon it was a nothing
burger
it was a double triple nothing burger i
mean the uap
report was laughable um oh i
sat and belly laughed over it i get to
the end and it's well we have one
percent we don't know what they are
uh they're they're talking a lot but
saying nothing and it
you know there is a lot of pushback i
agree i agree with you penny
um it does seem like there's a lot of
pushback uh
people are getting thrown off youtube um
you know and otherwise it's just
um
i i think probably they're gonna do this
alien false flag operation uh fake alien
invasion thing
the one that randy kramer talks about
yeah von braun
mentioned about it and greer talks about
it all the time and
crew's afraid of it um i know people
that are involved with
official first contact and it's
scheduled for this fall
and the ets involved in it have said
if there's a false flag that that they
will not
come and be part of official first
contact
so we're kind of on a a time frame
if they're going to do it they need to
do it before
we make contact you know there's been so
many first
contacts and but they're all classified
well this one is supposed to be
wide open to the public wherever it is
and not
with the government and i
think they're talking about australia
well good luck um trying to get most of
the world won't even believe
it and that's why i mean i
as a very crude solution it's like
a false flag alien uh operation at least
everyone
you know most everyone would kind of be
on the same page where it's not
still arguing you know like these
physicists i'm talking to
they want proof of e.t they don't even
believe it i mean it's
it's madness the limited thinking that
goes around
is just endemic
it's not limited thinking it is
there is an official
point of view on everything
and if you don't subscribe to the
official point of view you don't
get funding you don't get hired
you are literally
de-platformed and so
any opening that you would
chisel through their armor they're gonna
fill that
back up real fast so they can continue
to stay working in their field
right but there is limited thinking i
mean there are some very very smart
people who are just like
brilliant and then you talk to them
about this stuff and they just
they're like no they can't um
even the people okay
um when you talk to
people about pesticides there have been
studies done
and some of these studies are turning
out to have been faked
but as long as those studies are still
the official word
even though they were fake the people
who are
the chemists and the biologists working
in that
field are not allowed to say anything
different this was one of the things i
believe was atropine
um atrazine i'm sorry
atchazine was was the chemical that was
found
to to change boy
um amphibians into girl amphibians
and it was found to have the same
effects later on
on reptiles and they haven't tested it
any further
because the company who makes it went to
such
lengths to de-platform
the scientists who did the amphibian
studies
so you have work that's being done that
shows the official story
isn't true but the people who are doing
it are
punished big time no
this is in every field
you know i agree i mean it i see it in
the history field with archaeologists
and everything
i mean yeah it's in the history field
it's in
physics oh yeah relativity was
never true i know but it took
people off of tesla's electronics
which was true
there's also the possibility instead of
a false flag alien invasion there's the
possibility of designer aliens
and that's something planetary corp
actually had discussed
because they make humanity hybrids they
can make nordics they can make
anything e.t like with et genetics
and present it to the world as hi we're
here to make contact
meet the nordics so they can do that
easily and those are designer aliens
something else i wanted to toss in is
all of the videos that i have seen that
were
uaps that were being released
by the military
they were all solar warden
chat yep or planetary corp tech
none of them were e.t nope they were
humans who are already in space yes
and no it's not the earth military so
they're technically telling the truth
when they say
it's not ours right but isn't the tic
tac
uh back engineered from the tall whites
out at indian springs and s4
yeah yeah because charles hall described
their tic tac looking ships and of
course
i don't know if it took them 50 years to
back engineer that technology or whether
they had to negotiate for it
probably both um the tall whites had to
negotiate to keep their base
and part of that part of that
negotiation
was a constant drip drip drip of tech
so why not share this attack that was in
the human space
right um and there's some news planetary
corp
gave space force tr-10s recently
because they have to work with earth
defense force space
force tr-10s the craft the
bigger larger uh versions of tr threes
and sixes
got it but bigger ones where you can
have thousands of personnel on the craft
and they
benefited with beyond the speed of light
ftl engines
so uh that was recently given to space
force because
space force is now a legitimate space
program
earth-based program with its own
classification was earth defense force
made legal yes exactly they're working
with our
defense force so they're now two
combined
entities uh which gives them
more freedom and autonomy and gives
solar warden more opportunities to get
out of the solar system
and branch out with this
i want to say something here and it's
going
it's not meant to offend you eliana but
there is
a person out there who has attacked her
and i both
and he was on a show for a while and a
lot of people know his name
and i'm not going to say it and i hope
you don't either
no but i will say during his
first season what he shared about
ssp was correct because he had
gotten it from it's gotten it from
people on um
project avalon which is a website for
experiencers he had done his homework
there
and had come found the stories of the
real people who had been in these
programs
and so that first season he was telling
the truth
it's not not his truth because he was
never one of us
but what what he talked about with
with with the technology what he talked
about with
with where the the
people are what he talked about that
solar warden
did those were all correct
not that he did them but that first
season
until he started talking about anshar he
was telling the truth
and the answer are totally made up
and the blue avians were from
from oceana
so yeah we can tell you we can tell you
exactly where he pulled everything so
um and the answer are based
on agartha beans so
there are garth beans that i've never
interacted with i have i have
i have um and some of those beings are
energetic vampires some of them are
wonderful beings there's all kinds of
beings in agartha
so the anchar are actually
somewhat real they're they are a
parasitic energetic
group oh i picked this from how he
described them yeah
well they are parasitic they are very
um they take you in they
uh make you feel part of them and they
drain your energy
out of you and you're all drained of
energy and they present to
themselves as beautiful sexual beings
that's how they hook you in
so we saw all of this uh unfolding on
the show
and every day every time the women were
more beautiful
more sexy these unsure and others
so it just got so um sexualized
it wasn't funny well that's one of the
problems
whenever people start talking about
these things is
you start getting questions about the
sex life well
like any other military
if you have men who are in service and
away from their families and you have
women who are serving beside them
there's going to be
a lot of
well some other relationships might
actually be welcomed but
most of them are the women are being
required to be prostitutes
that's that's the underlying reality
that i lived
was i was assigned and that's supposed
to be against the rules in
and not spartan but it's common practice
anyway and if you listened
to my interviews with joseph powell
he describes what he did to me as my
commander
when i said no
so it's not like we really have the
right to say no
planetary corp you don't fracture nice
with the ones you work with
who are directly who you work with your
superiors or below you just don't
sexually fraternize
you don't do that on the basis so
there's a
policy and you're not supposed to do
that you
don't do that so that never happened
humans out there discovered
that men who have sex on a regular basis
are more productive
and the policy is based on that
planetary corp you're productive based
on the job you do and how well you can
do it not your sexual
inclinations prowesses or anything of
that nature
so um i guess the value system is
different
sex is just something that's done
recreationally and has no
meaningful purpose other than to blow
off steam
and planetary corp so what you do in
your off hours
as long as you don't do it with somebody
that you work with closely
so that's that's the rule if you don't
have any
options yeah
well the base the the cybernetic slabs
and the mars bases have both
men and male and female personnel so
um you're just not allowed to fraternize
with the ones that you work with
directly so that's a big no-no that
was always a big no-no so you
you you could what you do in your off
time is your business but you don't do
it with your colleagues
was the rule the major numbers actually
surprises me because that's not the way
corporations on earth operate
well planetary corp likes productive
little assets and they like people who
follow the rules who do what they're
supposed to
and it's regimented just like in the
military
uh you don't sleep with your coworkers
who
you're out in the field with you just
don't do that in the marines you don't
do that in the navy that's a big no-no
so it's same that's how that corporation
is run
the team you work with is the team you
work with you don't do
personal things with them on the clock
or off the clock
that's your team who you work with
that's how that is
so we followed that rule and
we were productive and we worked as
units
in the cybernetics labs and on the base
too or bases
so john can you comment on that well i'd
rather not
now in terms of military and how that's
set up
i think it's you know they they have
they're allowing women i think there was
a woman officer on the uss john warner
submarine
uh and she was one of the first i
believe
um which i think is a progressive thing
um however you know
all your points are that you two made
are valid
um the issue another issue is
since the vibration of love is the most
powerful thing in the universe
um boys and girls together
in stressful situations you know mother
nature is going to
go the way she wants um i think it's
very difficult sometimes
in the military my stepson
and step daughter uh you know they're
they're married i don't know what it's
called
um he he was a marine she was army
that's how they met
now they weren't in the same service
together but they met somehow they were
working on an i.t
project and uh you know and they were
warned off but love is love i mean
sometimes
there's no stopping that um and so
i got into lots of trouble because i
would actually form attachments yeah
yeah
we're human that's what happens i mean
you know in my book i
i write about two female characters
because uh you know i grew up with two
sisters a mother
stepmother you know it you know and they
have some issues with their team member
and it's it's and i mean across the
aisle you know once you know
once british ones german their enemies
you know but
you know it happens um and um
i wanted to it might i wanted to end my
book on a happy note this one is much
shorter
you know and it is i mean the vibration
of love is all
powerful and it's sort of a sub theme in
the book
going forward even though there's all
this war and tragedy and
heartbreak it's like well sometimes
there's
you know at the end it it it can work
out but it is
it is something i don't think he could
stop um corporations make those rules
all the time they never work
i mean human beings are just very social
and and very
you know loving uh even though we're
manipulated by regressives and others
um well planetary corporate remember
there was no feelings of love there was
just
you do your job you're proficient at
what you do you reach your efficiency
peaks
and you have some off time you don't
really engage in anything that you're
not supposed to and if you do have some
kind of a relationship that's private
you don't talk about it
it's not seen it's not heard that's how
it is of that corporation
so there's no real love involved you
need
how do they need that artificially yeah
there's no
officials yeah that's artificial because
they're all
all of these factions implant their
people
with mind control devices that if we get
too far out of hand then we get a
seizure
and if we get really too far out of hand
our heads explode
there's just what i would say planetary
corp
men women assets there's emotional
neutrality it's like you're emotionally
neutered
really and that's efficient for
that's how it's done on these bases 24
7. um you don't really attach yourself
emotionally to other people and you
don't fall in love
on those bases it's military-run
corporations
that's what that is so that's how it's
run that's what i remember
as how that was built and
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it worked there weren't personal
attachments
there weren't any lovey-dovey things
you were a cog in the wheel and you did
what you were supposed to
you did your mission did your work and
that's how i remember it as i wonder if
militaries on earth are moving towards
that
it's efficient and proficient there
there's no messy emotion there's no
messy
uh traumas then you're taking the ethics
out of the equation too because that's
an emotion
instead of in a robot form no
not a not a robot just emotionally
dampened so that you can be efficient in
doing the job that you're there to do so
that's military grade
how that operation is run um again
people can still
have a relationship is just can't be
seen or heard
it's very private and that's how it
stays
you're not seen out and about with the
one that you're with
so it's very robotic in some ways and
it's very
where my experience in october
was that i would be on a ship
and since i was a female officer i was
usually the mistress of one of the
officers above me and if i was not
chosen to be a mistress then i was
assigned
to service other officers since i was an
officer i was not allowed to
fractionalize with the enlisted
oh um when i worked in the cybernetics
labs
you worked with teams or you worked
alone male female you worked with both
genders you were not to fraternize with
your team
who you work with so that was a huge
no-no and like penny said
if you do then you might have a
nosebleed you might have a seizure
so the implants could mind control
emotional dampening to a certain extent
and as well as physical pain
if it was needed if somebody was out of
line and emotionally
engaging with someone they shouldn't
those
measures would be activated and enforced
but there wasn't any like you're going
to you're you're an officer you're an
ssp asset
you're assigned to be a mistress to
somebody
planetary corp doesn't do it that way
that's for them it's about work
efficiency and meeting work quotas
that's the end game of the technology
whatever you're doing
that's what you're supposed to do it's
not about emotional feelings or love or
appropriation it's about doing your duty
and your work
that's just how it's run the breakaway
driven civilization is very
patriarchal and while they give
lip service to the divine feminine
it's it's actually more patriarchal than
we have on earth
well there's this movie called voyagers
that recently came out
which has some interesting disclosure
um so the earth you know is running out
of resources
running out of living space um
so nasa is training
new type of humans little children
who are going up and up into space in a
ship they're traveling to another solar
system they'll get there in 60 80 years
whatever right
um so while these kids are now grown-up
teenagers
on the ship they're drinking the blue
liquid that suppresses their emotion so
they don't interact with each other
sexually or an emotional level
so it's suppressing emotion so that's a
bit of disclosure the perfect soldier
the perfect
cog because there are medications
there are different minerals and things
that can suppress emotion
so they make you a perfect little
soldier and that's
what planetary corp does to its
assets it makes you emotionally neutral
just for the audience planetary
corporations
is the same entity that we have known
traditionally as the military industrial
complex
yes it is so this is
so people know who we are talking about
yeah so that movie voyagers
it really is disclosure of how planetary
corp
makes its ssp assets when i watched that
movie i'm like yeah
yeah that's how i was emotionally when i
was working for them
i was emotionally neutral like um
i'm not easily tempted by relationships
by love by sex i'm not tempted by those
desires
even to this day that's not what rules
me
very logical and very um
just like i am my own person and i'm not
easily tempted by anyone or anything
to this day you know it's interesting
because i think movies give out little
tidbits of disclosure but they're
infuriating because it's all mixed with
you know like 60 years to get to the
nearest star
you know what is that movie interstellar
i got up in that movie and walked out
you know it's like
we can get from new york city to
mars in about 20 minutes and i did it in
1964.
yeah yeah but what was real in voyagers
was
drinking the blue substance and
emotionally it suppresses you
so you do not uh fraternize
with the genders it's it's co-gender
you don't fraternize with them that that
sexual
thing that love thing that's suppressed
emotionally
that's what the real disclosure was in
voyagers
in terms of how planetary corp deals
with its assets and
how their military um bases and labs are
run
so that's a little bit of truth in that
movie
well now this is a question for both of
you because
you know my wife and i have many
discussions on what disclosure really
is and i have to say you know
over the last 20 years and because of
this uap report
and all the pushback and everything it's
kind of
like uh i tell her i give her an analogy
it's like we're on a hill
watching the biggest train wreck in
human history and there's not a god damn
thing we can do about it
uh except be there for people after the
wreck
um but i kind of see disclosure going
forward
you know disclosure quote unquote
as being just sort of uh
you know initiatives that sort of
normalize
technology a b and c another 10 years
normalized this five years
then normalized that and you know really
not
disclosing much yeah sure they might
disclose e.t
but it's like hey you know raw problem
they're our friends and there's only one
race and
don't worry about it and and sort of
normalize
everything so that in 30 years when my
grandson's
37 you know it'll be a world where
oh sure everything's hunky-dory and uh
you know go to work for planetary corp
for the icc
you know and it normalized
all this and that's the plan that's like
an example
is more of a an official
dogma that
americans are good and germans are bad
that um
pleiadians are good and reptilians of
all kinds are bad
and that that there
is no room for deviation
oh no people hate it too complex they
love everything black and white and
simple
yeah it's it's there's and there's
already
a dogma attached to it
and that's part of the pushback that i'm
getting is because
i'm turning that on its head and saying
everybody out there are human beings
you know regardless of what country they
their
their people came from in the first
place
so uh i mean there was a time that
that ileana and i would not have been
allowed to talk to each other because
i'm american and she was born in ukraine
that does that stop me no yeah i don't
know
i want it hasn't been that long ago
is what i'm saying true
um the dogma
shifts a little bit
but it does so over such a length of
time
that when you are talking to someone
like i'm speaking with ileana and i've
speaking with
with yuri lear and i've spoken with
um alexander cherkasoft i did an
entire podcast set with
alexander cherkasoft there was a time
that i would have been run into prison
for that because
he's a translator for the russian
government
he treated a russian spy that i didn't
tell me he was a russian spy which i
think is just
total yeah yeah but
at the same time he came to me and he
says you know
you have more following in russia than
you do in america and i'm going
how the hell did that happen
now all americans view russians as spies
and
cold warriors you know it's it's
ridiculous but the russians
they're much more open to all this
they're open to all of this
they're warm they're friendly they're
they
i talk to them and their eyes don't
glass over
no well that tells you how much
programming we have in the united states
yeah
projects interviews that i do where i'm
being interviewed in the first five to
ten minutes
the interviewer's eyes are totally
glassy
they're not hearing damned word i'm
saying
and an hour or two later they will ask
me a question from that first five
minutes because they haven't heard
anything
since well what i love
liked about project blue book that show
that had two seasons i wasn't able to
see that
yeah it wasn't on a platform that i
subscribed to well uh what i liked about
it is that
the americans were spying on the
russians what the russians knew about
the ufos and the russians were spying on
the americans with the americans you
knew about ufos and that technology so
both were
looking at each other and spying on each
other
who had who knew what they could have
just
you know been open and like this is what
i know about ufos
this is what i know about ufos and
shares
national security exactly
i understand that the red phone in the
white house and the kremlin
was because they finally figured out
that the ufos were somebody else
and they decided we better have a phone
call to say that's not one of ours
yeah my dad worked on that in 1972
during the salt
missile talks part of what's not really
public was they set up a teletype system
between us and the russians
that was instantaneous and so
uh why it took some so long for that to
happen
i don't know um the mccarthy era
yeah mccarthy era is some but stupidity
really because we were always
cooperating the
with the russians on the deeper levels
as far as ufos and et2
you know always but they kept the
generals and admirals fighting the cold
war uh
to cover it all up that's pretty hard
they were fighting the cold war so
they'd have an excuse to raise
taxes to pay for the ssp
yeah and now
these corporations don't eat earth
funding they have their own
infrastructures
and they run themselves so they've
totally separated from
earth but eventually that counting has
to be accounted
for and uh
when elon muskovitch goes to space
when bigelow goes to space when
all these earth corporations go to space
what will they find when you
accept that earth is not
a closed economic system
and never has been
the accounting takes on a whole new
aspect because you have to
account for this went off
world yes and has been taken
out of the system exactly
so we have the front liners who are
frontlining uap ufos that this is
acceptable
chris mellon louis lozando stephen greer
they don't talk about the ssd programs
all they talk about
is ufos now they always concentrate on
the hardware
yes i'm sorry i have to lean back i have
a terrible bad back
um they only talk about the hardware to
describe folks
for the audience john was a race car
driver
and had a horrible accident and he's
lucky he's able to walk
so we have no problem with you
with you being comfortable on air well
chronic pain is good to sharpen the mind
i'll tell you that much
i can't quite explain that but um i'm
sure you'll understand
uh yeah i do yeah they they just talk
about
sightings and stuff like dolan and
everybody it's like oh
we need to talk more about the sightings
it's like the hardware is not the issue
it's the politics it's the financial
system it's the the false history you
know
it's down the line the hardware big deal
lights in the sky
all different kinds of shapes you know i
could give a
it's you know and they kind of distract
the public on that
like i get emails from people going wow
some people saw a ufo and i'm like
wow big deal you know i mean there's
millions society
the current thing is that that's a
ship that's being shielded by clouds
and i'm inundated with cloud photos
well the question is who made it who
who funded it and who's piloting it
that's the question
whose is it and what's the agenda
you know and this whole thing you know i
came out against
chris and lou lying to the american
people they are you know i've been told
that the navy has lists
of thousands and thousands of different
designs
they know exactly who flies them what
race they are where
they're from uh they try to find out
what their agendas are but sometimes you
know
you can't figure that out but when
you're dealing with
beings that are hundreds of times
smarter than us it's pretty hard to find
out whether you're being told the truth
or being led down a a gilded
cage yeah and i'm psychic
uh i don't know this might sound strange
john but
i'm getting i'm picking up that chris
melon is involved with the cia
well he is d-i-a-c-i-a yeah
and strong ties to the cia i told you
that
well you know it's just the way
that it is right now his kind of funding
is coming from the cia oh it's
obvious i just argued that today on this
physicist forum you know it's ridiculous
you know they're towing the same old
yarn you know gosh it's a mystery
the people at the top who are
invited to all of the conferences who
are
invited over and over to the
radio or tv shows that have the most
viewers those people
are all part of that
remember i talked about there was a
dogma those are the people who are
pushing the dogma
those of us who are like ileana and i
saying hey it's dirty out there
hey they're kidnapping kids for this hey
they're torturing children for this
they're
this is not a closed system your money
is not
being spent on earth it's go it's being
taken into space
we're the ones that are saying your
dogma is wrong so what happens
we have our youtubes um
i was blessed that that global
enlightenment radio network gave me a
show
and in the process of that yeah we're
trying to get me to contact in the
desert next year
and it's it's
going if we make it
it will mean that the real truth
will finally be at least addressed
and odds are they'll make fun of me i've
already talked to richard dolan once
and now he talks about on his show about
this crazy woman who said she's been to
mars when he says that
that's me well he's obviously on the
take
um there's no doubt about it he was a
firebrand when he was younger you know
this is what happens to a lot of people
and i'm not pointing fingers at them
because blackmail can be very dirty
and dangerous and so i'm not like i
don't
it's not a criticism it's really just an
observation
uh you know doland only talks about
childish stuff and sightings and all
kinds of bland boring stuff
you know but he may be you know
viciously blackmailed i mean it's the
truth
and um well i had a problem in november
i was talking about some of the more
occult
information and i was warned
threatened and after that i've had
friends
murdered and so i'm kind of in the
situation
of do i talk about everything i know
because it's the truth and people need
to know
or do i protect my friends
by cutting back just a little bit
um blackmail is the number one currency
in the secret space programs actually
if they have something on you you're
owned you're owned
so and controllable if you don't have
anything to hide
and nothing to you know that's why i go
behind
closed doors why i'm obvious and
out front about exactly all the bad
things i've done because they can't
blackmail me
yeah the only thing they have on me
now is if i talk about
certain topics people in my world die
yeah i talk about certain topics that
med beds aren't coming in that i'm
criticized oh you're a fake and a fraud
i'm like no i'm not
because well i know i'm showing the
truth
yeah exactly my beds aren't coming today
next year or the year after it's a sad
truth because these drinks are not
coming either
yeah so they always they always uh
they'll bring out something called a med
bed but it'll have very very
limited technology in it and it'll help
with your ingrown toenails and
whatever and then they're like oh see we
let it out it's like some of the other
you know ultrasound devices that they
have in the medical community
you know those came from you know back
engineered projects supposedly yeah
but it's like the public gets the
watered-down
childish mandy pamby stuff and they're
like see
you know you're benefiting and it's like
not
you really a look at computer tech
especially
the technology that creates cell phones
all of the rest of our technology should
be
have advanced at that same rate
why didn't it
because the better copy is to be
released 10 years later not now
it's planned you know a very planned
step by step it's
obviously planned but i want our
audience to
think why hasn't everything else kept up
with cell phones
well they want us they want us
enslaved to our phones for sure they
want us communicating
laptops are is an amazing tool i use it
every day i'm a writer
and so they make things indispensable i
have
a desktop i do not have a cell phone
um i have an old school landline
and people think it's because i'm not
computer tech savvy but
i've got i've got a
desktop with 32 gig ram
so yes i'm running wit
win 10 but i was i was a dos
programmer right yeah i remember that
i'm old enough to remember that
but you know that it's like in virginia
out of my farm
they told me in five years they will not
support landlines anymore
and so they they push people into new
technologies whether you
like it or not well they tried to get
mine gone
but um we plugged it into the router
you want a nice cheap landline just get
uma it's independent of
any of those other um
companies you know it's not
it's a hybrid landline you could say the
radio was it a radio signal
uh it's connected to the computers it's
just connected to your computer
like my actual phone is it is
a landline but it's plugged into my
router so it's now exactly
it's like a little hybridized landline
it makes it where i'm reachable when i'm
not online
but if if the internet is down
and it usually is at least once a week
um
i'm blissfully safe from all of it
and our cell phones are like those
screen tablets that certain gentlemen
talked about remember the glass tab was
funny
yeah um i knew the man
who uploaded the mars net
i knew him he was number five at
langley when i was there i was number
seven
and we went to mars together and he was
a gifted linguist
he spoke
there he spoke english german
and russian and he uploaded all three
major portions of the mars net during
his
his 60 and back
and um on earth
he was the nsa agent that they chose to
activate my memories
and yeah that's my major claim to fame
i'm the only one that the nsa
activated on purpose so
i still don't know why because the
agents that were involved were
murdered when i went public
so this round this year
are not the only people who have been
murdered because i'm talking
so um the count
is now at seven and
people ask me all the time why haven't i
been killed for disclosing
all this ssp stuff that i was involved
in john can you answer that like why are
we still
here you know i think they can't
i mean they could kill us all i mean you
know my wife and i
really we were like it you know i'm
not gonna
i'm not gonna not talk about things
anymore
um they can go ahead and just kill
everyone first of all we reincarnate
you know sold contracts and everything
it gets very complicated but
you know we all we're all here to help
out we're all here to wake up
we're all here to do a job the job is
nasty
and so if they start killing all of us
you know
i mean you know i don't care um i've
always you know grown up i've always
been hardcore
if people were 90 towards something then
i was 110.
if you know everything i was doing was
always shocking people and they're like
why do you have to do that
it's like why can't you wake up to the
harsh truth of things
and you know by and large people just
don't want to do that
um no they don't they they like a
comfortable
lie yeah as far as iliana's
bliss that's my friend who always said
that i said
if this is temporary what good is it
um as far as iliana put it about
why haven't they killed us i've been
shot with
energy weapons 10 times and
i was still speaking the truth
and they decided to break my
shoulder and it took me
two years to be able to put that arm
behind my back i still can't tie
like like the bow tie on on an apron i
still
can't tie that i can't braid my own hair
because my shoulder won't work but
i'm still alive so i must be a fake
and that i'm to the point when they say
that it's
what i have to be dead before you
believe me
yeah it's stupid logic well
i've been a lot of people killed um
a lot of people there was bill cooper
there was max spears there was
mark mcclint mccandlish was was
murdered in march and they're trying to
say
it was a suicide um
you know i personally
have known oh who else was murdered
um william white crow yes he was
scheduled for
an interview that day his wife went to
the store the people trying to interview
him kept calling him and he never picked
up
and when his wife came home he was dead
hung by rope probably
um phil schneider it was um
he was strangled with a um
catheter tube but that was suicide
um mark mccandless gunshot to the head
in his own home um with no evidence that
he ever
owned guns yeah weird
yeah we're looking at there's a lot of
people
in the community that have died so now
the expectation is if you're telling the
truth you have to be dead
well that's like in the middle ages if
they threw a woman in a pond
if she drowned she was innocent but if
she floats she's a witch
yeah i mean it's the same it's the same
thing
and either way yeah i mean i've been
close to death a million times on you
know
it's like so you know for me
personally it's like my fear of death
you have to
conquer that as a racing driver you
control your fear
think fast your reaction time you know
it's like i don't care this is what i i
want to do this is what i love to do if
i die i die
doing it and you know and since that
time the last 20 years it's like well
i'm just going to do what i feel i have
to do that i'm here to do
in my soul contract and if i die i die
big deal
you know i think people make way they
intimidate people with fear of death and
it's like what's death it's the change
of frequency
yeah i i'm not worrying about whether i
die or not i just
didn't want more people i can't dying i
mean that's
the way they'll do it they they know
probably the three of us
you know the four of us maybe are not
afraid of death but they'll kill people
around us
to intimidate us but odin here
has been picked up a couple of times to
explain to a certain three little
letter agents see what my show thinks
it's doing
and he hasn't stood by me anyway
so you know and
i run my show independently and i don't
answer to anybody i'm not beholden to
anybody
i get to choose my guests i get to talk
about what needs to be disclosed
independently uh and youtube sends me
algorithms that i should do more shows
about the ssp
yay google likes that the more the
better please
why do certain people get thrown off
like carrie cassidy and
a couple other people she was mixing
politics into hers yeah
was laura eisenhower
not only does laura mix politics but she
also
heavily mixes religion and
mixes religion and politics as one
yeah there's the three c's on youtube no
politics no religion
uh no guns no violence if you
know and no c or j you know no c
or j as well oh
yes well we know what that is no no no
no no
the c as in you know that
special v thing the virus
oh oh yes
i've had shows that i could not upload
to my youtube because they were about
the c
and c and j and
um the guests probably got
all upset once i get my server running
i'll have them on there but i'm not
going to put them on
someone else's platform
yeah i just don't talk about those
things that that way i'm
still up and about where i'm supposed to
be yeah i feel weird i mean
nothing makes sense it's like why is
something taboo and others
ride to avoid both religion and politics
on my show
because because i'm
documenting a community and
there are members of the community that
are all points of the political and
religious spectrums and
it it's irrelevant
do we have people in space yes
does their politics matter no no
do their religious beliefs matter no no
it's their disclosure history that we
want and want to talk about
and closely and if they're
a researcher
why are why are they dissing
experiencers because researchers have
nothing without experiencers
well i was a researcher first i worked
for a library so logic and research
that's part of the backbone of who i am
and being also an experiencer is
blending the two together and making
sense of all that stuff well back when i
was in college in the early 1980s
i was pre-med microbiology
with a chemistry and i worked in a
biology lab
and even though i was an undergrad
i was the one he sent to the library
because this was before everything was
on the internet
and it would be my assignment to go read
the list of articles he gave me and
write
the abstract for each of them so that i
could bring back a handwritten abstract
and he would know which article he
actually needed to read
by the way i always love it when people
say
oh i don't believe all that stuff
happening in space
and it's like um are you forgetting you
live on a giant sphere
flying around the solar system in space
we all
we all live in space now people have
this
you would be shocked how many people on
social media are flat earthers
oh yes maybe in an alternate universe
but
it's really not important right now i
i've seen
it in space and it it's it's round
it's round but it's lumpy like a potato
and this is
the pacific ocean side is a little bit
flatter than the rest how are we
supposed to have a 3d environment that
we live in if it's a flat earth
that's not a that's a 3d reality is this
3d reality it's not flat everything else
is round
why would earth be black exactly
i'm in the hamburger theory you know if
we lived in 1d perhaps it was flat but
we're in 3d
so it's not flat people actually we're
in 3d with the fourth dimension of time
yes that's true but again 3d is not a
flat thing and it's not a pattern
i did a circle on purpose because time
is cyclic
yeah well you know what i think it's
it's a
a lot of it is just distraction because
i was on a history forum for many years
and finally i just gave up because
out of 3000 people there might have been
a half a dozen
a dozen decent minds and everyone was
there to look up
flat earth tartaria and mud floods
and whether or not it's conscious or
unconscious
it's just these quantities that i have
been
speaking at the last
what twice two two or three times i've
been
flat earth tartaria and mud floods have
been
the biggest things there that's what i'm
competing with i'm
sitting there listening to these people
and going
oh my god or
or number four the solar flash it's
coming
you know it's it's i think they're
maybe i think they're maybe you know
they're
some sort of counter intelligence scheme
to distract everyone's mind with this
crap
and it's like um you know i asked what
was it um
i had a girlfriend one time long ago she
was very religious
every time i asked her a deep question
she would always say we're all seeds in
god's hands
we're all seeds in god's hands where's
the ketchup
she's like we're all seeds in god's
hands
what does that mean in practical terms i
have no
idea you know it's i think people
those topics are somewhat safe
you know tartaria existed it was on all
maps it's not that big of a deal
yeah it wasn't part of the world and
every flood is a mud flood so
sure but everyone's like oh the world
reset you know ten times it's like i
don't see any
real evidence for that i don't either i
do genealogy you know intellectual power
is sucked out of the room
you know that i do genealogy because
i've been working on yours as well as
mine
and yes memory cell memory
so i i'm looking at this and i go
wait a minute yeah i know that there are
royals in my tree
yeah i've talked about that but
my family has records
in latin for that whole period of time
that these other people are saying
didn't exist
yeah oh you guys are ready
we have we have records
in latin for every effing
generation going back
to the fall of rome and because
my ancestors married the romans that
were in charge
those records go back to the beginning
of rome so that's 700
b c i have records of my
ancestors to 700 b
c so you're going to tell me that
all of those were often made up
well i'm interested in my
eg human genetics so i constantly look
at the energy of
what makes me and where i came from in
past lives because
those genetics are carried over here too
it's in the cellular memory
so we have earth genetics and we have et
genetics and it's more than just a
hundred on the scale
and people ask me how can it be more
than a hundred because you're not just
one genetic
source the more past lives we've had the
more genetic et
uh that comes in with us when we're born
with it
we don't have a cellular genetic scanner
that
right now tell us what our genetic
makeup
is of the galactic stuff but the ssb has
those scanners and they can
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ileana my website is messages from a
star traveler and people can contact
me at seekingthetruth in reality at
gmail.com
um that's my contact information thank
you
john uh you can contact me
at my website littleanton.com
thank you both for coming i've enjoyed
this
it was fun guys thanks odin
thank you
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