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how would you define the so-called cabal
who are these people where they mostly
represented i.e what organizational
bodies corporations etc
i would say that you're talking about a
certain portion of the corporate
billionaire class of the world who are
mostly involved in
petrochemicals
coal
like old
really really dirty uh energy sources
which the people who are involved can
skim tons of money off the top so they
make billions and billions of dollars a
year skimming off without these really
unclean energies and the last thing that
those people want is disclosure event
free energy technology so they have
always been the main wall against uh
disclosure information because they seek
to lose the most so pretty much if
you're looking at
the worst petrochemical coal
environmentally polluting billionaire
industrialist those are pretty much the
enemy and and whoever they are and
whoever that they're really supporting
and putting their cash behind are you
know who they're supporting to be the
enemy as well not saying that that makes
everybody who's not them saints because
it doesn't we have a lot of imperfect
billionaires and politicians who are not
saints and not perfect people who were
at least trained not to be horrible
fascist nazis so you know it's if you
got a choice between uh and nazis i
think
is better than nazis that's my opinion
but
um
it's it's very complicated and
unfortunately
fortunately or unfortunately there's
mounds of incompetence on all sides so
to be honest if the uh competence level
of the neo-fascists and the nazis was
better it would be over by now they
would have won the conflict and taken
over and it would be over and if the
people opposing that the we'll call them
the sort of allies that the traditional
sort of western and whoever else comes
into the allies like in world war ii
um they're not necessarily super
competent either right now so we've got
this mix of competency and incompetency
and i'm just crossing my fingers hoping
that it all doesn't go to but it
probably will before the inland invasion
but
let's we'll get to that later so anyway
there is intel that ukraine has been a
major center for the off-world human
trafficking with multiple underground
holding facilities presumably containing
hundreds of thousands of people in
different locations
is this true and what groups are
involved in the human slave trade in
general
um there is a truth
of human trafficking but it's not what
conspiracy people think that it is
conspiracy people want to say that it's
all these things with no proof no
evidence i've asked people many many
times show me what you've got you got
video evidence do you have audio
evidence do you have any documented
communication evidence do you have any
eyewitness reports that you can show me
that is an investigator i can follow up
on they can never produce one piece of
evidence now on the other hand i have
studied some of what is actually
happening in human trafficking in actual
human trafficking and looking at actual
police reports and fbi reports and dhs
reports and so
there is a thing happening and it's
horrible but it's not what people are
thinking that it is because what people
think it is is a distraction from what's
actually happened so it is the biggest
distraction to get people to care about
human trafficking which is great but to
care about it in a way that is
completely misguided and misappropriated
and completely missing all of the actual
trafficking that has happened right over
there
and if you mentioned the
the space human trafficking to to to
other places and stuff who's running
that if you if you know oh that's a
that's a whole other thing that is a
whole other thing that's what i'm saying
yeah
yeah and and the numbers are not even
what people would suggest or think that
they are it's it's mostly an off-world
thing and it's mostly happening in other
places and with the colonies and so
forth a lot of that activity has moved
off of planetary surface as most of
those people have moved off planet to
sort of be at a distance from whatever
is happening down here with the stinky
surface dwellers so
you know we used to hear the number one
million people being abducted for
different reasons not just slave trade
uh
a year
uh that's not accurate anymore
not not even not even
no i would say since when since what
time
um i would say that what we would define
as
conventional criminal uh human
trafficking accounts for
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you know like
easily you know 15 to 25 million uh
persons
annually you know around the world which
is a pretty good sized number um but
when you're talking about
covert you know military intelligence
space program trafficking
that's become a whole other thing a lot
of it because of
internal issues that have had to be
settled because we've signed treaties
with other species that actually
guarantee that we won't engage in
certain acts of slavery or slave trade
or enslaving personnel persons without
you know giving them rights and so forth
especially if they're parents citizens
taren born citizens etc so we've had to
clean up
uh our own slave problems uh in order to
be treaty compliant
so
those numbers have come way down and the
people who are really involved in those
things have moved those activities
outside
of the legal sphere in which we can
maintain that uh or do much of anything
about it so
there are people who try to stop those
things and hunt those people down but
just keeping in mind the people who are
really motivated to do it spend the time
money and energy on it are going to keep
slipping around as long as they can so
but because we're treaty bound we've had
to reduce
tons of that uh within terror and space
i see but that that might still be
happening somewhere outside the
i don't know
oh i'd say what i can say about uh the
colonies off world are that they are
probably far less regulated
um than some of the things that are
actually happening in parent space right
now so
and we keep reaching out and stretching
out and
you know taking new people and breeding
more people and
engineering more people to make colonies
in different places so
once you get farther and farther away
the regulatory ability to ensure that
the laws are being obeyed by those
people gets harder and harder and
naturally the people that want to do
those things know that and they're
pushing themselves farther and farther
into the reach of that activity to
continue to get away with what they can
get away with so you got it i have to i
have to admit the problem's not solved
uh but we've made it sort of cleared
most of the internal cancer so it's more
of an external cancer
there was intel that in the late 40s
early 50s there was a joint u.s ussr
operation in antarctica that involved
the deployment of nuclear nuclear
weapons against the german bases do you
have any data
yes that is correct okay
and it's it's correct okay so and the
intel says that after the us and ussr
supposedly lost to the germans the us
the ussr alone delivered 20 000 soviet
soldiers to the germans in space
to be used on the moon and mars as labor
and troops to fight the local races is
that true
um
i don't know about that specific number
of that specific exchange but what i can
say is there
was an agreement that brought the schwab
launders into a grouping in which a lot
of people from around the world were
being pulled into
and there were also sharing of those
personnel for experiments and
augmentations and
you know psionic experiments genetic
experiments to make better soldiers and
so forth so uh there definitely was
a lot of different countries that were
throwing people into a pool
and that was being spread around but i
was not if that was not a tribute to
someone for a military laws it may have
it may have i don't not privy to that
specific exchange so it may have okay
yeah
okay so what intel do you have about the
russian portion of the hsp are they a
separate ssp what's their main specialty
in function and what's the russian
um
my understanding is that
most of the departments now in different
countries i've been absorbed and
amalgamized into the larger space
program so
whatever
i would say comparably the russians
secret space program is not unlike the
air for the united states air force's
covert space program which is not that
good
but
everything and everyone is getting
funneled up so personnel material
resources always get funneled up okay it
doesn't always come back the other way
this is now a joint endeavor and what
what is the name do you have a name for
that is it like a joint ssb internet uh
yes it's the earth defense force the edf
yes the russian ssp then is uh is now a
part of the joint endeavor
they don't have any special you know
function that has you know specialty or
something that they do
um not that i'm aware of but my
understanding is that there's some tiers
of separation but as much of the maximum
personnel material technology is
funneled upward into a very very tight
cluster of personnel that don't always
want to let that information technology
drip back down the other way are the
space germans currently in alliance at
war or neutral with the group that you
represents
i would say that uh definitely not we
wouldn't definitely call them neutral or
an alliance i would say that
we're in cold war or hot war in some
cases with them right now so
yeah yeah yeah they're making their move
everyone knows they're making their move
everyone knows we're doing everything to
stop them from making their moves so
yeah
we're not friends okay next question
along the same line has has mdf
or any other ssp branch ever been under
german command
um so
yes and no
the
spartan lounges has certainly
had a part in the fleet and have also
done their best to maintain their own
fleet and as much of a separate fleet as
possible while having their hands
in anything that they possibly can so
they have their own colony uh on mars
for sure
and they have
their hands deep into the cookie jar of
the mdf in some ways or had
there's a lot of changes there that i'm
not aware of right now because there's
so much influx after the
worker revolt that happened what was
that like eight years ago or something
like now seven or eight years ago uh
when they had the worker revolt uh and
the colonies and that destabilized and
upended everything and
i we're that's still a changing
situation so how is it how is it
possible that they were they were
somehow in uh control of mdf if mdf is a
separate you know earth
i won't say in control of i will say
having their hands deeply involved
because we've had to share certain
technology and spaces and information
with them because there's been a treaty
for decades where they're all part of
the covert the global
terran earth uh covert military space
program so
we've we've known for decades since the
end of world war ii that they were just
biding their time until they could try
again because you know nazis got to do
like nazis got to do and try and take
over the world because that's just what
they do they suck but they've got to
keep trying until we squash them and i'm
all for squashing them thank you very
much but uh we knew it was coming but
we've had to play this kind of cold
war cooperation thing but no i i'd say
it's getting pretty ugly in some cases
but i don't know that everybody's just
actively trying to shoot anybody out of
the sky yet but give it a minute that's
common
okay how many worlds does terra have
bases basis
representatives on today to your
knowledge
um i would say we have bases and
embassies on no less than
gosh probably over over 50 or 60 worlds
right now bases under embassies yeah
that's and that's growing that number
grows every year yeah every year that
number grows are there any assets from
the baltic countries in the ssp estonia
a lot really many and what is their what
are their
capacities um again there's always been
an uh
a goal to filter up so
uh superior personnel from all ranks all
services all military branches are
always being looked at and asked to come
join and do other things and so
i'm certain that there are i have no
idea what numbers uh but you know pilots
engineers
you know
soldiers probably all the things that
everyone else does
they picked the best of the best i'm
sure they got a few in there
right so uh
the next question you told me that it's
classified and the question was how many
turn assets are serving in the ssp right
now what percentage does it in real time
and the parallel timeline now uh in your
estimation and i know it's classified in
your estimation uh
okay so you know that but you can't say
i see okay
i mean in your estimation is it a tenth
of
thousands tens of thousands or more
oh more
more than that okay more over a hundred
thousand
yes
okay interesting
uh
when was the time travel first used in
the ssp according to william tompkins he
said that the the the 20 and back system
started working in 1980 that's kind of
late i think that's what he said and uh
you know judging from for example benny
bradley's testimony she was sent to mars
as early as 1959 and and and and
brought back so that's yeah we have like
15 to 50 of them so when do you think
was the when do you think the system of
20 and back and whatever time travel uh
was established
i
i know that we were working on it we had
engineers working on it
on a theory level for sure in the 50s
they were doing practical work and
testing for sure in the early and mid
60s so i would say
by the early 70s they would have had
something functional operational
and that they could use
even in a limited capacity with a limber
limited number of personnel that they
could you know travel forward or back
per year per month or whatever in the
early stages but that would eventually
like everything else become
standardized industrialized so that
they'd have as many units as many
machines as many engines as many jump
gates or whatever that they needed to
move as many personnel as they needed so
that's
doing that right right right yeah no i i
would say based just on the trackable
beginning of you know drawing table you
know uh testing stage 50 60s we would
have had
functional applicable technology that we
could have been applying in the early
70s and it's interesting that you have
parallel time travel programs like
andrew bashagos who is saying that u.s
had the time travel by 1970 which is
quite late as well right right so so
there was like parallel research going
on at the same time oh yeah always there
was never just one department working on
something you know you got multiple
departments and whoever gets there first
gets there first and maybe though that's
not even the most
the program that someone is most gonna
know of because that's gonna get
shuffled over here real quick do
something super secret super first try
to get an edge on someone before they
can develop it before it becomes
standardized that's that's always the
thing that someone's trying to do with
with military tech
uh how is it that the competing ssp
groups seem to all have access to the
same pool of human assets that's an
interesting one
again there's a treaty yeah there's a
treaty that everyone basically agreed to
and that everyone signed that
uh
of all the personnel across the world
that would be selected and cooled up
that they would go into a pool that's
managed by an independent bureaucratic
organization which dispenses those
personnel based on requests uh need and
priority and all that stuff so
there's an independent agency
uh that takes that decides to dispense
based on requests yeah what i'm saying
what i'm saying is the the groups that
are maybe not
uh
meshing well with each other like for
example you have
a person who goes to the navy on on
earth right and then gets sent for
example up to the moon to serve in
kruger a german mercenary group and
after that gets sent to mars to serve in
the mdf and after that gets sent to the
german fleet to serve there
yeah
so it's like that sometimes people get
sent all over the place sometimes yeah
i've been downstairs
who's deciding that i mean how can that
be if if you're saying for example that
your group of the navy you know is it is
it the neighbor or the marine corps uh
they're that both are so closely
associated right right right so if
you're saying that you are not
you know friends with the germans and
then someone gets sent from the navy
directly to the germans or some rogue
german group as kruger or someone else
how is that uh working
well i would say that in the past it
worked very roughly and that it didn't
really work so well it just worked very
roughly and i would say as we've moved
along in time
there there have been some stops of
certain personnel getting to other
departments and
the flow of that has changed a little
bit for sure
uh as time has changed and i i'd say
that that whole department's about to
get up ended for a bunch of reasons so
for example if someone's serving on on
in in one branch like the mdf who can
come and say okay i need this this this
and this person in my fleet somewhere
over you know in on pluto or something
that is right well there's there's a
yeah there's a process of requests uh
when i was in the mdf there was actually
a number of times when
we did um
missions that were off world actually
and we would get requests that would
come into uh our department or through
our command structure and our ceo would
come to and say look
i need
this many i need six 12 18 24 whatever
you know number he felt was based on the
request he was asking for i need you
know 22 24 people who want to go on a
seven-day you know off-world mission i
don't know where it's at you don't know
where it's at but when you get there
you'll know where it's at you'll get
told what to do and then when you're
done you'll come back here and it would
get sent off different places in the
solar system sometimes or
space stations not usually too far
um but we get sent off for a few days
maybe a couple of weeks do a sidebar and
then come back and it was really based
on requests and availability so because
and there's some
massive bureaucracy that has all of
those
people
knowing exactly where they are knowing
exactly what the qualifications are in
this massive computer that's
smart it thinks it's not ai but it
thinks it's an organic computer it's not
the same thing
um and it
can sort all of that information so that
requests can come in and it can
literally
within a few seconds spit out here are
the most likely
personnel that we can expend to do that
without suffering any negative
consequences anywhere else so it's a
massive bureaucratic thinking organic
computer that sorts that out
can you comment on the alleged
historical division division between the
u.s navy and the u.s air force ssb's and
their respective et curators is there a
hot conflict between these two branches
yeah there sure can be
um so the air force
really got a lot of their stuff
uh early
as uh before they be when there was
still the army air corps before they
actually became the air force so some of
the earliest air incidences that were
occurring uh occurred
uh over air bases or in the desert you
know in america and were handled by the
army airport which then became the air
force well the navy was you know if
something fell into the ocean
guess who picked it up the navy picked
it up so the parallel programs were
anything that landed on the ground
uh the air force would come and scoop it
up and anything else that landed out in
the water somewhere the navy would go
and pick it up and
you know that was sort of their parallel
programs of like picking up garbage and
scraps and pulling them in for
uh reverse engineering
so that that started some different
thinking and because the army to be
honest is very different thinking than
the way that the navy thinks because the
navy has
uh what we call a shipmate attitude
which is you're on a boat in the middle
of the ocean or a submarine
everyone matters everyone counts because
everyone either fights free for their
lives or everyone dies together so if
there's a fire everyone fights the fire
even the captain fights fire the doctor
fights everyone fights the fire or
everyone dies so there's no even though
there's tears of hierarchy uh it's just
not the same as when you're in the army
when you're in the army you're either
you matter and you have rank or your
fodder and that's just it that's just
the difference you just fodder if you're
nothing and then if you claw your way up
enough then you have some matter to you
but on a ship
it's not the same everyone has to matter
or everyone dies in an emergency okay so
and and and you guys actually have
sometimes have skirmishes and conflicts
the oh if there's okay so i mean there
are navy and marine corps special forces
teams who operate on the land obviously
and so if something crashes and they're
close enough they're going to try to get
it first and if the air force is close
enough they're going to try to get it
first and i was actually at an incident
when i was in training where a vehicle
came down hit the ground and we secured
the location some other guys came to
secure the location and said well we
have orders to take this and we're like
yeah well we have orders to take and
they're like yeah okay and they
you know backed off some number of yards
and our team leader was like okay we
need to hunker down and take cover
they're going to start shooting at us in
a second and we we're we were better
shots i guess and so you know they ended
up retreating you know because enough of
them got wounded uh or maybe we had
better cover but
um yeah it was absolutely a hot bullet
fight for that piece of technology
between
navy guys and air force guys got it so
what about the et's you guys are working
for the u.s air force where who are they
working for primarily as opposed to the
navy
that's a hard one to answer because
there are multiple species involved in
engineering technology genetic
augmenting programs across all military
branches and right now we're in the
dozens of species so i don't know that i
would be able to answer who is mainly
sort of
assisting or overseeing
air force operations in the et world
yeah i think we will uh we'll get to
that later because there are questions
about this too
it did not now the old if you talk about
olden days 50s 60s it would have been
the zetas it would have been the graves
but we sorted that out you know you mean
the air
um the navy we it changed very quickly
for the navy and they were dealing with
another group uh that was called the
cortium uh completely different uh group
of species that looks very similar to
humans uh talks more like we do eats
food more like we do
but is that like the the so-called earth
council
no
these were uh
e.t species that are humanoid honestly
there's a lot of them actually there's a
lot of humanoid
et species out there but there's a lot
more of everything else but there's a
lot of universe
and the so-called earth council do you
know anything about them um i mean there
is a loosely agreed upon uh
sort of like similar to a united nations
organization that is uh a garthan uh
diplomats and terran surface diplomats
and a few e.t diplomats that have
interests because they have uh colonies
inside the solar system or on the planet
there's a few very uh isolated colonies
of extraterrestrials extraterrestrial
species they came here a long time ago
and are occupying a very tight cornered
space where they just want to hide and
not get hunted down by the people that
annihilated their entire planet their
entire species other than the ones that
are hiding are they are they're working
on cleaning the the solar system from
things like slavery you know
inhumane acts and so on oh yeah we have
to because of the treaties and i would
say that we've made tremendous progress
at that in the last decade and we're
just going to keep making progress at
that once we finish this war with the
schwab and lounges and we kick their
asses once from once and for all i think
that will really settle it
so i'm ready i'm ready for it to just
get on because let's just kick their
asses already they're nobody
likes them so let's just kick their
asses i'll be done with it send them
packing okay
you said that there was a change in the
ssp management in the past 20 years or
so can you elaborate on who replaced
whom and how the policies changed
oh yeah i would say that um you know for
many years the
the air force certainly
had a stranglehold on the intelligence
community community's access to
information
and that changed uh that became much
more of a navy
marine corps special section operation
because we just started sending more
people to brief people we just started
sending intel officers to brief
politicians to brief diplomats to brief
uh military other lower military
personnel you know and the lower
security echelons we just went around
and started briefing people and just
started going around the air force and
say we don't need your permission to go
talk to someone and brief them on
something we think they haven't needed
to know we don't need your permission to
do that so
okay next other deep space ssb craft
operating under the new space force
right now
uh not that i'm aware of uh they they're
a shell of an operation and they have
nothing interesting that i'm aware of
right now no one's sharing any real
interesting technology with them they're
trying to get up some good satellites
they're trying to do i'm you know i give
them credit where credit's due they're
trying but they're a new military branch
there's uh it's very difficult for them
okay got it are there military advisors
liaisons and even security assets in the
u.s government and other governments on
the ground and if yes what races are
involved
again we're dealing with dozens of races
that are interacting with military
intelligence agencies right now and yeah
some of them you know are passable
humans some of them are using technology
to look like possible humans some are
not but dozens with dozens of species
in the us
yeah everywhere around the world around
the world
and they work permanently with the
government
yes and they are they are they are
permanent advisors until their jobs are
over whenever that will be and i heard
that there uh for security assets i mean
like bodyguards and stuff you know
security services sometimes
yeah why is that
why why
oh mostly because you need someone that
can protect an asset psionically and
sometimes you need an et that that's
real easy for that comes from a species
that just has you know high scion per
second so isn't that a liability to use
someone off world for you know such a
sensitive thing
uh not if they've passed the security
check and the security and the
background check
i mean these are these are people who
have resumes and reputations and things
as well i mean you know so
they're not they're just some guy that
we hired that we met somewhere and then
at a bus stop hey you weren't gonna work
for us like
their vetted employees with resumes okay
i have to ask you this there was a there
was a photo when uh trump was signing
the space force bill and there were
and there were two people standing
beside them there was a woman and a man
i think a man was like a red-haired
uh person and there was there was a
rumor that those two were et's
would that be true um i believe i've
seen that picture and not that i could
tell they they look like yeah regular
people maybe maybe not
maybe a little weird people not perfect
people but no i i don't think they look
like gts to me okay so so when they work
when they do work with the governments
uh there is only a very very limited
number of people that know that they are
et's right
oh yeah oats always okay so the
president himself may not be aware that
they are actually
right he might not yeah right now
interesting okay is there any connection
between the ssp and the chemtrail
phenomena
um not directly chemtrail phenomenons of
geoengineering trails if we refer to
them in-house are primarily methodology
to
block out some of the uv from the
depletion in the ozone layer which you
know there are concerned about mass
cancer rates and so forth and uh mass
die-offs and crops and so forth so some
of it is uh what we call geoengineering
spraying trying like sort of protect the
uv layer add some uv layer
there are also a certain percentage of
them that are being used by uh what we
have here state-run agribusiness to
prevent fungal blights and
massive uh pests um
massive massive uh
infestations of insects
uh that they can't get with crop dusters
with small planes over fields they
literally have to hit it from the sky
and crisscross all over the place so
that it disperses down over wide white
areas uh in hoping that
you know either fungal blights or
bacteria or
insect growths don't overtake crops or
natural environments due to climate
change screwing with all of the insects
what about the negative stuff that
people are referring to
with the chemtrails i'm not an expert
but i'm what i'm what i'm feeling here
the question was about is the the ai
spread you know the 5g the control
um you know we think that there's some
you know mood effectors that maybe are
designed to keep people sedate sometimes
or agitated at other times there is a
less than five percent of any and all
spraying that may have some weird cia
experiment in it but most of it's
fairly mundane not necessarily healthy
for people uh based on the delivery
system chemicals and the
um the aluminum and so forth which is
super healthy but uh sure there there's
some weird stuff that we would like to
get regulated uh but it's less than five
percent
most of what's happening is
geoengineering right okay
okay who are humanity's current top five
etli slash foes and what system systems
are they from
that's a tough one laying out top fives
again because we're talking we have
dozens of friends and allies that are
here right now we have hundreds of
species that we're trading with and we
have a growing number of
pests and foes that don't like us any
more than we like them that are well
into the dozens at this moment as well
so that's it those are growing lists off
the top of your head like the top five
that you know off right now
uh let's see
if i was to say
top five helpers uh we certainly have
uh the centauri our
nearest neighbor so they're hanging out
a lot right now we have um
what else does uh central galactic
uh which one of um
uh the andorrans uh have been helping
quite a bit not to be with the andorians
there's two of them uh one small one's
very tall um
i would say
that
the actually the zeta
i want to say it's the
which is the say to a
zeta b threes
so there's a number of subcategories of
the zeta reticulum we have the zeta a's
and the zeta b's and then you sort of at
the zeta a ones the zeta a2 z8 threesome
that's a b ones if they b2
b3s and there's a b4 and a4 i forget uh
two of those
are pretty nice they're pretty swell
they're pretty agreeable uh and i
believe the b3s uh are doing a lot of
busy work for us right now because
we've made an arrangement that they can
keep an arrangement with the other ones
didn't want to keep arrangements so
those are doing pretty well um i would
say
what was the guys once it just showed up
uh
i'm losing track of it how about the
traditional five you know the the lyrans
the pleiadian the syrians and so on
you know i would say that they're still
acting as advisors but you know what i
think we've made some cooler friends
since then to be honest with you
we've gotten out in the galaxy and we've
made some cooler friends that um are
helping us get some done a little
bit faster some of our old friends were
really the kind of friends that wanted
to see us do things really slowly
because they didn't want to see us get
ahead too quickly and you know kind of
screw those friends all right we're
we're really about the friends that want
to help us move things forward right now
right so we've got some better friends
than our traditional friends right now
okay but they're still around helping
out right so the the this intel came out
recently from the air from the air force
the source uh about the nordics from
prosthetic a and b and sirius a and b
uh it's all white from 82 g or donny and
the ancient word great so these these
three races the procyon and sirius a and
b
so white from
that sounds like a report from about
1997
if you ask me okay
yeah that sounds like a really old
report that someone's putting out as
brand new information that sounds about
oh that sounds about 20 25 years
actually this person said that uh as
the
the nordics and the
tall whites are actually working
on the ssp craft so
deep space exploration crap oh yeah oh
yeah yeah yeah we've had them working
with us for decades and they and they
still do oh yeah but but i would say if
the if someone was listing those as our
main allies that sounds like 25 year old
okay do you know anything about orange
grays then
um
no i i'm not sure which ones are the
orange ones i know that they're
different shades and i'm not sure which
ones are the oranges
that could be the b3s you know i'm not
sure i'm not super familiar
okay you once said that the progenitor
races view terran development very
differently what was the main insight
they gave you
um that
long
long term thinking
so you know they're really looking at
centuries thousands of years millions of
years of evolutionary development
when they're looking at a species of
planet to develop
um when
i was having a conversation with the dt
is millions of years old
and i was asking about so what's your
what's your plan here
you know for for our planet our species
and he kind of laid it out for me and i
don't think i'll go into it but i was
like okay that's cool how long is that
gonna take and he was like
about maybe another two million years
and i was like two million years and
he's like oh no we've been at it for
like 18 we're almost done
and that just blew my mind for a second
that you know this has really been a 20
million year project apparently you know
as he was saying we've been busy we've
been really managing this for like 20
million years
uh for 18 million years on a 20 million
year plan we only got two million left
well we're almost there right and where
were those guys from can you say
um
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a star that we call trogda or is listed
in the um intergalactic
directory of worlds as trogda the planet
is
bogdya you mean the the the frog people
yeah they're the frog people that was
the frog guy and they were and they were
running the product here
uh
all over the place
with humanity yeah oh yeah this this is
just one of their little side projects
over here so yeah
okay just one of many many little side
problems so they actually engineered i
mean not engineered us per se but
engineered a civilization here or some
kind of no no i i would again their
their thinking is so much more long-term
they really like go in and tinker for a
minute genetically and then sit back and
go okay let's wait a couple thousand
years and see what happens and then
let's tinker a little more let's kick
back and wait a couple thousand years
and see what happens with that then
tinker a little more and then watch it
for a couple thousand years and then
tinker a little more watch it for a
couple thousand years so it's it's a
constant process but on a scale
that
you know
what we think of as a lifetime we'd be
born and dead many times over
in just one phase of them doing one
right you know change in the world let's
see how this works right so they they
are the one they are one of the tinkers
with earth as well
yeah for sure okay everywhere everywhere
that they can they are tinkering
okay what about the humanoid races the
you know the progenitors lots of them we
got lots of them we trade with them they
love our beer they love our stuff and we
sell them lots and lots and lots of beer
okay
what can you say about the you know
there there was a lot of you know
channeled information from the you know
the same top five comedians lyrans uh
sirius arcturus uh all those
uh
many of these beings are
multi-dimensional they're like from the
you know higher higher dimensions and
densities some of them are i i'm gonna
i'm gonna interrupt real quick though
and say that there's a bunch of people
who profess to be channelers of higher
dimensional intergalactic species and
who are con artists liars charlatans and
grifters
and i'd say that's well more than again
like 75 84 of people who claim to be
channelers are absolute liars and
grifters okay
okay so i i i i would say
dismiss eighty percent of anything
you've ever heard from channeled
information right probably garbage can
you give me a hint
uh what was the question again uh a hint
uh
a hint on who might be or
what might be said there's a lie
um
you know that would be a whole other
conversation because what one of the
things that i have observed over the
last 10 years of doing this are the vast
number of liars con artists drifters
intelligence agents who are taking
advantage of people telling them what
they want to hear delivering deliberate
psychological operation information or
in other cases just lying to grip and
get money from people
and just tell them different versions of
what they want to hear and watch the
internet and get the buzzwords off and
then start throwing the buzzwords out
but most of it's garbage most of it's
absolute liars garbage and people who
are full of
let me hear here's how you know if
someone tells you exactly what you want
to hear and tells you that the world is
happening and unfolding in a way that's
exactly the way you want it to be and
exactly who's the good guy and bad guys
are that you want them to be are it's
probably a pack of lie
okay good
yeah that's another conversation i guess
it is it's a long one
you said that the draco have been most
diverse from the terran space do they
still have controller alliances with the
cabal groups and politics banking
hollywood etc
um
i doubt it i mean the the remnants of
what we understand is still here has
been less than a hundred for a number of
years and i'm understand that's a
dwindling number and they are
a hundred of
what of personnel
you know senior personnel officer any of
them period a hundred
period under a hundred feet
on the surface right
somewhere
anywhere on this
planet right
anywhere they're all hiding underground
right now they're all hoping that we
want them and fine if we find them
they're done um but
they're either hiding or gold
right okay
okay in your group's opinion is there
such a thing as a positive humanity
hybridization agenda going on right now
and is humanity generally would humanity
generally be interested in a further et
hybridization
yeah to be honest i think that most of
the et hybridization programs are for
our benefit and for our evolution and
our well-being that doesn't mean that
they all are but most of them are right
so whether we like it or not they're
helping us develop and evolve you know
by some actual genetic splicing and
tinkering but it's everybody it's
everybody in the whole world no no one
is a special you know hybrid everybody
on the planet is a freaking hybrid so no
no one's a special hybrid everybody's
hybrid it's not special we're all
hybrids right thank you
so there is no like uh hostile
hybridization agenda going on that you
can you know pinpoint
oh i would say that the we've eliminated
as many of those as possible any of
those programs that are still running
are not operating lawfully and are being
done so you know under a radar who would
that be doing that
um hard to say there's a lot of sneaky t
species that don't like their activities
being traced um so
tough call i would say
you know there there are probably two
types of species that might still be
trying to do that you have a type of
species that thinks that they know
better and so they might whether it's
you know against the law or not like do
it anyway versus those who are just
have an agenda a personal agenda of some
kind and and therefore think that what
they're doing is right for us or right
for them
or whatever and would also be doing it
unlawfully anyone who's still engaging
in as a lawful exercise is doing so with
an approved you know scientific
engineering outcome process
uh that can be
you know basically
regulated by intergalactic uh observers
okay are the zetas doing that lawfully
right now
no they they have been exited from the
solar system a number of years ago so
they're not doing right now okay
okay
okay so and finally about this closure
from your group's perspective what is
delaying the disclosure right now
um
uh a little
a surprise uh in the war in ukraine at
the moment that has actually been the
delay
i don't think it was i i think it's
it was a bit of a monkey wrench and
we're just gonna have to like adapt to
what is now
happening now instead of what we thought
was gonna
happen okay
is the hoax alien invasion scenario
still on the table was the insectoid
invasion you mentioned going to be real
and was that insectoid group called
trentaloids what's the strategic logic
behind the invasion scenario
uh yes
and
um
yeah the option is on the table the hoax
option is on the table
uh it was oh it's real it's real it's
real yes it's happening yes it's real
it's not a hoax there will be real
aliens there will be real people dying
there will be real explosions that's
very real
um
so
not that i'm aware of uh that that does
not match uh the information that i have
okay
what's the name of the group that you
that you have
uh i am not allowed to say it this time
where are they from can you say
i i do not know or i'm not allowed to
say it this time okay when is it gonna
happen
any minute now um you know it just it's
event driven uh so to be honest watch
the world conflicts get hotter watch
civil conflicts get hotter and really
the worse it gets the closer we're going
to get so why do you need to wait until
something really something bad really
needs to go down
for it for it to happen
because you want everyone because you
want it to be so bad that everyone comes
together immediately to fight the alien
threat but why can't you just do it now
i mean not do it now but allow it now i
guess uh to because psychologically that
doesn't work on half the population half
the population wouldn't psychologically
accept it half of them would still fight
amongst each other and hate each other
the only way that it works is when it's
so desperate and so threatening that
everyone clings to each other as terence
and their only hope for survival against
an alien threat
there's just right look there's just too
much bigotry too much racism too much
hate from across nations countries
religious doctrines that if you don't
have a horrible threat that threatens
everybody equally people won't come
together that's the logic right so
so are you
what i'm saying is are you waiting for
something else to go bad on earth like a
war or a crisis or whatever to to allow
that or is it just going to happen on
its own and you're just expecting it
very soon
um
not my department to make that decision
but i would say that the escalation of
more events around the world and there
will be uh and the escalation of
internal hot conflicts around the world
which there will be
um will escalate that and will bring us
closer and closer to the point where the
inevitability of the invasion will occur
why is that what is it what's the
connection
what's the connection um
that's hard for me to say because it's
hard for me to say
based on the information that we have
available
exactly what everyone's motivations and
whose side everyone's on right now it's
a little fuzzy there deliberately i mean
what's the connection between
it getting getting worse on earth
with the invasion itself aren't they
like separate events separate no
not at all that's that's what i'm saying
they they are they are quite parallel
and interwoven in a way
that is not separate
what they're saying is they're already
here
not the invading species the invading
species has not yet arrived won't know
when they arrive
so how is it going to be orchestrated
the invasion with what's going on here
oh like i said the worse it gets
terrestrially the closer we're getting
to an invasion because
they want
as
much conflict
as possible as the
let's just call it the psychological
point where fewer people lose their
and
go crazy and shoot themselves in the
mouth or burn themselves alive in their
entire families because so many other
things will have happened
that most people will go oh well of
course alien invasion decks but if
people aren't
so psychologically stressed
by the escalation of threats
it will overwhelm a certain number of
percentage of the population how is it
so
yes how is it better than just
announcing disclosure right now
well again what i just said
i'm sorry i'm sorry we're rounding up
the troublemakers that you know that are
against disclosure and just initiate
tribunals and everything
again the answer is because somewhere
between 15 and 25 of the general
population of the planet would lose
their mental and psychological stability
and kill themselves and or their family
members and or people in their
communities there would be mass murder
mass suicide and mass insanity amongst
just that 15 to 25 percent
uh a 15 that it used to be a solid 50 of
people around the world if cross
populations were mentally emotionally
unstable that number has grown
depending on what part of the world
you're in part of the country or
whatever your country my country you're
in that number is anywhere between 18
and 25 down so depending on where you
are that number is higher and if those
people
are
overwhelmed psychologically
too soon
then they will lose their they will
kill themselves they will kill members
of their own families and they will kill
their neighbors because they will have
lost their minds and been
overwhelmed by a mind that cannot grasp
that kind of change but if you go threat
threat threat threat threat threat
threat then eventually it's like oh
aliens sure let's do that
um and then people are more
psychologically ready then that number
of mass suicides mass murders drops down
into the single digits somewhere and not
into the double digits if we're lucky
so it's to mitigate mass murder and mass
suicide be honest with you it is it is
the mitigate mass murder message
i see okay that's very clear
uh and we have two to go what are the
changes of the elites leaving tara or
having left already when the transition
occurs
some have some continue to do so um i i
would say that
the richer and more powerful that
someone may be the more likely is that
they're at a farther distance than close
to here right now because they know it's
not going to be good for them
okay and finally
any progress on the holographic met that
tech development
no
okay sadly no um i i think that it's
it's all been a financing issue and so i
think we're finally uh about to deal
with the internal financing and stop
dealing with external financing but
we'll see if it matters we'll see if we
can get to any kind of development
before
you know there's a technological shift
because of an invasion but
not giving up on that one not giving up
on that one still working on it do you
think they will disclose it before you
you can develop anything uh it really
depends on i i think we're likely to see
uh enough injuries during the invasion
that they're gonna need to use the
technology and they're gonna
we're gonna need to see it nothing not
my department but i think so so the
invasion is inevitable as far as you're
concerned
as far as i know yeah absolutely
inevitable and we don't know the the
time or the hour the the day or the hour
uh just the worse it gets the closer
we're getting okay well thank you very
much thank you randy
my pleasure alexander this was very good
thank you
my pleasure
have a good one all right take care i
gotta eat my cold dinner now bye-bye
thanks bye
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