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Well f Welcome Who are they again
Nike for the text field Day Thanks for the
invitation
and glad to be here we haven't seen each other for too
long
Yes you've been doing something very interesting
lately I know that your book
Cavalier of the Colony of Ceres became
a bestseller
and really attracted a lot of attention to you
attention But I also traveled to different places
to confirm my story, maybe you can
tell me what you did to
confirm the events that you
describe in the cavalry of the colony Yes,
of course it continues, this is what I
followed several years ago and I
ran out of material I continue to find
new evidence that is What The more
I search the more evidence I find
even recently they found a plane
and maybe even during our
first interview with you and in the process of
my memories I remembered that it was a
c46 team I started looking for the plane this
particular plane that we
used in Peru and about 5 months
ago I was recording an interview for a
Spanish language channel
and there were Peruvian pilots who saw
this interview and wanted to talk to
me we set up a Zoom call
and started talking I asked them They
spoke Spanish through an interpreter
these guys served one of them for about 30
years I still flying
and the last conversation I asked are you
doing you know the Axis 46 team that
used the drug cartels they answered and the
team this is in the city of Pucallpa
very quickly casually He said that
he participated in
Air Force operations during the war on
drugs in 1990 they carried out
raids on drug cartels which were
Maldonado's planes and I think it's
about 17 miles or more more than 30 miles
east of where he was
during my 20s back and they kept
the plane there he said it was confiscated in
'90 from a drug cartel in the early
nineties they flew to the cities
from which these drugs were transported
cocaine other drugs
it was a war on drugs
to the southern end of the runway where
these planes are parked and there was definitely
a plane that I remember that I wrote is
still there as far as I know
in a couple of weeks one of these guys
who Talked to me on Zoom
was able to go there physically to take
photographs of this plane So what is this
What is this part of my testimony
that I voiced over 6 years ago
and which was only confirmed recently
that this plane is still there and there are
other things that We are working on
Today I I think this topic has become very
complex a lot of people are coming out and there are a
lot of attacks on people So in order to
indirectly respond to people who tried
to refute my testimony
I did not answer them directly but went
back to examine my own
testimony evidence
so people who attack me and
tell Tony
why -the reason I believe I can say
great we need to explain This is
to explain why I'm very well
oriented
other facts that Excellent
we do see a concerted
effort to significantly dilute
information
programs that continue this
fact that we have infrastructure in the
solar system that
government corporations operate in space at
the moment
and we really see efforts to dilute
this information that we have disclosed
that you have been revealing on your channel
for the last 7-8 years
Yes, this is very important because I know that
the intelligence community is really trying to
muddy the waters by giving out conflicting
information through the work of their agents, we
know that they are doing this because there was
one document that was published
where it said that the NSA is working with the
British Government
Communications Center and the rest of the intelligence agencies of the Commonwealth countries
to set up an
online deception company and some of
them are related to that UFO this is a real
document that shows that this is
happening so it is very important that We
worked to confirm the
testimonies of people who had this
experience
and to your merits you are doing such work,
that is, of course, trying to prove that you
were on Ceres or on Mars or on the Moon
will always be difficult,
but since the first five years you were
first in Peru and then wait Washington
kept themselves
exploited these things can be seen
can be proven It’s great that you
managed
to find the pilots who confirmed it
I’ll just say that there is other
evidence that I can’t
share yet since it’s still in the process
at the beginning I just wanted to tell my
story just to heard
and how to support others then
talked about the same thing then It was in
2016 I just wanted to tell my
story in support of other people
to show that there is an intersection
of evidence And also to emphasize
that what was done to me what I saw is
really happening therefore at first
we just followed the pattern in terms of
telling our stories, our
testimonies, but now when we see
resistance there is also the absence of a large
number of other witnesses. I thought by
this time there would be hundreds of people like me
who talk about this publicly.
Therefore, there is simply a shortage of other
testimonies like mine and the publication of books
like mine, all this prompted me and also
the attacks prompted me to return to the
first testimony and look at it
in more detail again. Parse all
the evidence. This is my way of defending
my testimony
that what you experienced 20 back
from is quite unique. That is, there were
others who experienced a similar experience but
within the entire period of these 20 years you
were used as a slave as a
punishment after an ordinary childhood quarrel with
one of your Classmates
and therefore your experience gives us an opportunity to
look into the process of how people are
taken by force or sometimes deceived into
these
secret Space programs
So this is very important especially As
we enter the New Era
there is more transparency of accountability We
want to make sure that the people who
were caught or treated in
such a terrible way by these programs
get a chance for release of
course also for reconciliation
Let's first I just wanted
to vent I didn't
when I was going through everything it was in childhood
when they took me away I had a lot of
anger, I was an angry child,
but then we the testimony was not
based on anger and place, I believe that
secrecy is what allowed him to escape
responsibility for all this and that just
talking about it is justice
which we need to go further we
need to point out that this problem
exists this was the purpose of my testimony
I really would not want to say this is difficult
on camera in front of the audience I would not
want the
gears of justice to become a
brake on disclosure for everyone
I believe that just telling people
that the authorities can be so
abusive And that this happened that
big crimes are happening I think
that just shining a light on this is
what we need to raise the temperature and
Awareness of this and suddenly it makes no
sense that is, people did it Behind
closed doors and without any
consequences I don't think that they would I'm not
angry that's what I want to say I think that
the message itself will really prevent this from
stopping That is, if they could
do it secretly in front of everyone it would be
too embarrassing for what they did to
other people and they could would continue
so just talk about it tell the
truth this is my
main goal
very interesting because in a
sense people consider slavery today as
a kind of atavism that it was hundreds of years
ago
slavery was part of the colonial system
but now we have become enlightened and
moved
into industrialization then stuck in fasting
society slavery is a thing of the past
learned thanks to the testimony of such
people it is
perfectly practiced there and quite
common
from Exit if on the planet there is a civilization
that buys and sells slaves
and this is a large part of the economy and what to
do about it
But I don’t have numbers Before my eyes I know the
recent ones numbers that say that there are no
more slaves in the world today,
without even adding the alien factor,
that in the industry today there are
more slaves around the world than ever before, so
living slavery is thriving when I
spoke at Jessica's conference in
October last year I had numbers
according to me
six people out of thousands approximately this
figure 5 9 6 people out of every thousand
are slaves on our planet today
so it’s not that we allowed it, not that
we surpassed in its development,
living slavery is thriving and corporations are using
it as I said,
places where they can do it in secret
don't be afraid of shame
there this is happening
and specifically
the industry
as far as we know this is the main one
in the mining of lithium Cobalt
this continues and there is a
logic to it and I personally had to reconcile
my feelings about my personal
experience in order to research This I have researched
a lot of ugly things that have happened
to me to understand what happened and
why and
satanic ritual abuse
human sacrifices all these
terrible things that were not done I could not
understand How this is possible because I am a
rational thinking person as a father and
just a person I could not understand it I
could not understand how people could do this
if you look at the history of how we
got to this point, there is a certain logic, a certain
process that led to this, I believe
that slavery in the long-term future is
self-destructive, illogical, so
there is only a
short period of time when
society can allow it before
It begins to harm itself,
this is the essence that devours
itself so slavery will not work for a
long time
this definitely needs to be made
transparent and shed light
and all these projects in space on Earth
where people are exploited
you have opened
Jungle in the period when you were 20
back we know what you described in in his
first book Cavalier Colony of Ceres
two main periods that is the first seven
years when you were on earth you were first
all these as a slave and then you
spent about 13 years a
short time on the moon on Mars and then
a long time
This new book the project
describes to the reader
what happened during your
time on Ceres can you tell
us what prompted you to write this book
because it's different from Cavalier of the
Colony which is very linear
chronological much more
episodic and so Tell us
of course
She's still making waves people are still
contacting me today two
people wrote and said that they had just
read the book and it opened their eyes
they had difficulty translating because of
this because of the fact that a large
number of people
said Please write
anything else I didn’t have I have
many short episodes of memories I
I included a lot of this in the first
book of
Jackie Kenners, whom I did a program about, a
conversation with Tony, she was my co-host
for probably a year and a half or two after
the broadcast, we talked, asked
each other how do you know this and where did you
see it? I told her the episodes
that are in this new book She
says you need to tell this
story Of course, first you need to release the
first book and she really liked it because of
her own experiences that coincided
or overlapped with what I told
her which were very unusual
so we took it and wrote this book, it’s
short, it’s a sequel But not the same as the
first book it is short The book is a
collection of history
because the events that I remember
happened decades ago one is
emotionally connected to another
when I work with people it is always
non-linear They remember some emotion
for example they do
not remember the next time they
felt Anger and this it all adds up to
one story so it's not linear
and it's very confusing So the star maker was
written in the same way to convey
this complexity of memories it's a very
distant vague memory for me
So it's very difficult for me to
just give it out ready see because
it's really a very vague
memory They match with what she
was experiencing with what I was experiencing when I
looked back at it all the book was already
finished I looked back at the events of my
own life There seem to be
reasons why my experience is different
from the experience of other people who were also
in programs like me the
story that happened in this project
a star is happening can explain why I
remembered everything now I’m talking about it
So we released it and
I’ll get one more thing This is that the
book shows the importance of consciousness, that is,
we consist of several shells We
have a physical body, we have an
energy body around us and the body of
consciousness I don’t want to go too deep into
mysticism But it seems the aliens have a
lot of technologies based on consciousness,
its division, used so that
it gives results and the star project
is happening in which I participated was
delayed in time
and went wrong and that’s why They
organized temporary purchase of the consciousness of
people who were already slaves with the help of
technology and the existence in which I found myself
when I worked in this project was
more blurred existence we were kept
in adolescence I was not
human they took my consciousness they
used us to
operate equipment to work on the
construction of stars there was the scientific
component was a lot that I didn’t know
it was written from the point of view of an ordinary
worker I was
not bullied in any way
It was a project and when it ended I
woke up again on Ceres in the corridor and in the
first book there is this little episode
so the book is actually I need to
check some page in the first
book, that is, I need to read the first
book up to this page, then read
the star is going on, then continue with the colonies of
Ceres, this will be the correct order of
events, but when we try to lay it out
linearly, it’s very difficult,
it’s very interesting what you said, what’s
happening trading consciousness
some may call it a
soul extract then someone's consciousness or
soul extract can be sold
if he is a slave it can be sold
used in another project that is,
here you are in the Ceres colony you
were there
You worked with the dark fleet
I guess you weren't given a choice they
just told you I’m in the ocean, we’ll just give
your consciousness for 10 years to another place and
you’ll spend 10 years there and then
come back. You can tell me how it
was, that is, here you are working on Ceres
as a slave
and they’re telling you that you’ll be sold to
someone else a project that
other aliens are working on Yes, it
was very incidental We woke up
in the morning as usual, I was brought somewhere in the
colony, probably 50 people lined us up
And there was no explanation,
no instructions, we
’ll just go somewhere and only at the very
last minute Yes I have already reached the end of
this line,
I was told that this would happen,
we were told initially that the
program 20 is back by science, the technology
that allowed us to go to Ceres
for 20 years, that this was the maximum period,
and that if you keep a person longer, it
seriously increases the risk
of mental disorders that you will
mentally unstable when they bring
you back so we thought where else
could we insert these 10 years, that is, we
thought that this could not be done when they
sat me on a chair to begin the
procedure I asked about this I was not told that
it was a completely different technology and it
looks like a colony corporation Ceres
made a deal with an alien race
on the far outskirts of space And I think
this is the vortex Galaxy M51 this is a distant
Galaxy region of space where there was a
reduced percentage of star formation I did
not make a deal they had
technology to place our
consciousness outside the human body which was
kept at the developmental level of a teenager
That is, it was a diluted version of
our consciousness, we were told that it would
last 10 years and people sat on a chair
for the procedure.
As a result, the project was canceled, it was not
completed, but the deal that the corporation entered into with the
Ceres colony in exchange for
us, in this deal, they received new
technology and were very happy, that is, they
got some kind of scientific and technical thing,
but which They could develop and it
was very profitable to blame in this
way
Judging by the way it all ended, I do
n’t want to give away
I don’t want to reveal an interesting twist,
that is, at the end of the book there is an interesting
turn I don’t want to reveal it but
it looks like this event could be something that
followed me like a trail all my life,
that is, the events of my life were a little
different from other people, because of this
it is very interesting, that is, in the middle of a
sentence of 20 years and back you are
forced to
write down or they give you another 10 years to
a project where your consciousness goes
somewhere and spends 10 years in another
galaxy on a project to create stars,
then you come back after these 10 years
and just continue, was there
anything when you returned? You just
continued What has changed in 10 years
you just had new Memories
when I just woke up I didn’t understand what
happened I didn’t have any
memories I was very disoriented
that is I felt surrounded by nausea
from orientation
We didn’t work that day If I
remember correctly
I felt
I’m still trying set That is,
when I work with people like we talked
to you off camera and I work with people
who are trying to collect their
Memories, feel like they went through a
similar experience, I pay attention to
when something happened in their
timeline Because things that
happened in 20 back usually affect
your life Here also I am not cyclical
so by watching what happens
you can really find out some
details this happens with cycles That is,
many repeat the same common
denominators in life and the same
experiences when something
the program begins there in the case of the project stars I
look at its beginning I still haven’t
determined its exact date
But it seems to have lasted more than my 20
years
that is when I look at the timeline the
period of 20 years was from the age of ten to
30 years old But it seems that the project star
was angry from
25 to 35 that is, another five years after the
end of 20 years, part of me
was still in space, I still
track it and look back on my
life to determine what impact it
has or had then on me That is,
changes were happening it seems some
events line up
and multiply further in the future as I
said these are cyclical events when you
look at the time line That is, it
affects life and For example, I began
to remember only 15 years after I was 30
years old, that is,
I was
42 I think Quite a long time passed before
I began to remember everything
because some Aspect of me
was still there, it was difficult to establish How long exactly
it lasted
But it seems to have the effect of
reducing the
mental emotional function of
a person while the person is 20
back his personality here
seems to be experiencing difficulties in the mental
emotional plane almost as if he was
not completely
your own So your consciousness is transferred
using some kind of technology that was
transferred to the Ceres colony,
it is sent to some other
Galaxy
and you are placed in the body of a sexless
alien, you can tell
what it was like to wake up in the body of a
sexless creature,
it was very disorienting, we were that the
same race as the project manager, but in the
project we were kept in adolescence,
that is, we stopped growing up and all
these 10 years we were kept at the age of 13,
that is, the adult versions were also
our bosses. And we were teenagers.
I think that they didn’t even use
half of my consciousness a
small particle
the body was very different from a human there
was much less water in it It was a
very dry body
blood and so on
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it just had different properties I didn’t
feel all the time there I didn’t feel like
myself in that body and it seemed that the
energetic parts of my original body were
still reflected in that body but did not
coincide with it. Therefore, I still
had urges to eat food and
behave like a person in accordance with the
biological functions of a person, but in
that body all this was not there. That is,
I was drawn to things which were not there,
I don’t remember from where, so I tried
to find out who and what I was
and so for years. We worked in this project, we
controlled flying cars that
carried tons of material
that were brought into this fog, they were
precisely layered on it to
form a
gravitational field, that is, it was very
important put the elements in the correct
order, I didn’t lay out the gravitational
field of the planetary body of the huge planet
on which they put this material,
these were different layers of chemical
elements so that when the star lights up
it has a specific property, that is, that
was the scientific idea,
we did this for years and it was
just an ordinary day in the office we didn’t know,
that is, we were told that our race was
dominant in that galaxy, that there were
other forms of life, that our race
actually inhabited 90 percent of the worlds in
this Galaxy, that it was the Galaxy 1
time, but over time we learned
that they were lying to us because we could
communicate with people who were not inside
this project and we could communicate with
other creatures or children, so
to speak, in other worlds there and could
exchange a few words with them, we
communicated with them a little, but over time
we were able to get a picture of
what was happening and it became clear to us that we
deceived about our position in
the Universe
They talked about things that did not
add up when we asked the same thing to
other people in our work network and
as I said this very Vague
Memory is what it was and we
understood that that is,
we knew that in some moment
we will finish the work when we reach the
10 year mark that we can stop working
to return to where we came from and
towards the end we realized that they had other plans
there were events that happened in
connection with this, looking at it now it is
very difficult to believe that one race
can populate the entire Galaxy and
dominate the entire Galaxy But that's
what we were told
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