pete from this cosmic consciousness today
we are lucky again and we are talking with
Tony Rodriguez and I want to say for
our viewers that many may not
know something they did not find out about my
existence a month ago when I
contacted them and we did not have mutual
acquaintances I I just wrote to him on Facebook,
he replied to me, I asked him for
an interview, here we are, he doesn’t take money for it
and does it in his own time, that
is, he does it, so to speak, about
Bond, and I’m very happy and very grateful
for this, Tony,
thank you without problems with our last
interview, I realized that it is necessary to make a
small statement for the audience, as for
those who will watch it for the first time, it will be
difficult to absorb all this information
and a lot will not be clear, therefore, just
like Neil did during your interview with him,
I want to recommend to people
an interview with Michael Sun and him with whom
I will contact and translate the interview partially
or completely, but for those who are not familiar with
this information or skoda will not perceive
it as the states reliably and I recommend
studying the material of the space
disclosure programs with Corey Hood and this material
is in free access in the text in
English and Russian
I will leave a link under this video and this is a
very extensive overview of everything that
Tony talks about, however, he only talks about
his specific experience in the 20
back program and of course I recommend
Tony’s interview with Michael Salo
since the goal of our today's
interview with Tony, my goal was to personally
communicate with Tony
in order to pass this
evidence through myself and to be a more
reliable transmitter of this information,
we do not have the goal of building some kind of complete
picture of chronology year after year and day
after day, and I wanted to state this this is
the first and second for people with a
sensitive psyche,
if this information causes you
internal anxiety and some
key words, phrases and topics of our
conversation bother you, then I advise you to
exercise caution because this is
very sensitive than I do not advise
absolutely everyone to just dive into all this
out of your head because it is a very
slow ongoing process of
perception that I and
other people go through so I understand what it
will be like for other people
so if you feel that this is
too much for you then you may need to
put this information aside for now and
come back to it later when you are
ready just to sort this out and
since things are great good morning everyone
thank you for being able to you can hear me well
yes you can hear us yes sometimes my
microphone is acting up now I’ll check how
our recording is going last time we
talked about very interesting things we
discussed the chronology of your life in the
program 20 years and back and
the technologies associated with it, as well as the
complete return of your memories to the
breakaway Nazi civilization in
which you lived for many years for 12 years,
it was very interesting and today I
want to discuss in more detail some
events and what I always Most
interesting is probably,
of course, as a background for what was happening
to you,
what the social dynamics were and the whole
meaning of what is happening in this shadow
world of which you were a part, but this is of
course secondarily after your
personal experiences of events. I am also
interested in the aspect of the interaction of people
with aliens as at the program management level and
at the personal level,
but before we talk about
it, I want to ask you what it was like, I
know that you told me that you tried
to remember everything, but now you’re trying to
forget everything, but at the same time, you understand that
as soon as you all remembered this experience
is already an inseparable part of you and you
said that your wife is aware of it, I wanted
to know if
this experience had such a positive impact on your life,
this is definitely the first question and 2 your
parents, your children know about what
happened to you and how much do they know and how do
you plan to tell them or if not
tell them directly
then in light of what you know
prepare them for this information in the
future well I cells the hardest thing was
at the beginning
my wife didn't know anything they didn't believe in
aliens she's a Christian who
grew up in provinces in a conservative
environment where they don’t believe in such things at all, and
when everything happened and most of the memories came back to me,
I
had no one to talk to, no one I was
completely alone in it,
it was terrible and it was the most
unpleasant time and it passed somewhere... then six
weeks
when I decided I needed to tell her everything, I
had to tell at least someone and we sat down
and I made a fire in the backyard and
we just sat down and drank a glass
after drinking it was much
easier to talk about all this and I told her everything
forced me,
I said listen, it won’t be easy for you to
take all this in, but I just
told you everything and then I said ask
me, prove that this is not true, please,
if I came up with all this, hey, I’m crazy,
I want you to ask me questions
if you’re skeptical about this and
can show me to me
that I made it all up, then go ahead and I
told many people this, if someone has
unity questions they see and equal
history,
then I ask them to point it out to me
because I also want to know about it
if what I really remember
fiction,
I want to know about this and at the moment I have
not been able to exclude all other
probabilities and work through all the guys,
talking to those who doubt it, it was
not possible and there are many things
that I don’t remember and people ask
me
what about this and that I have
vague memories of daily events
and so that you usually, for
example, what the spirit looked like, but for the most
part I remember everything
and much of this was confirmed by my children to
the taste of their parents, I will not tell I
decided not to dedicate them yet, but I sat down with the
children to everything described
and there is a great danger of the deck that
can't go through the same thing and
a program based on genetic
data if you've been there you need to keep an eye
on your children
because they are ideal candidates and
you need to ask yourself
how much your personal life is being
manipulated I
and of course not everyone but I'm sure there are a
lot of people who were in the programs but
don’t know and they are ideally suited and so
they start dating someone
but they are watched and said no, this
girl’s genes are not suitable for him and he
cannot be allowed to have children from her. I
wonder how far this
manipulation goes, because for it’s easy to send
you subliminal messages or
use emitters to bring the
people they need together and these are
of course my guesses,
but there are also documented cases like
the one described by Bryce Keillor in her
book thanks for the memories and she was
subjected to consciousness control through
trauma ultra and she describes that
almost from the very beginning of the mind control process, a
person was planted in her life
for a relationship I spoke with other people
you know that I have been contacted often
since my interviews were
published many have similar
vague memories and people have spoken me
that they are married or married to someone
they have no idea how this person
ended up around
ok okay what about everyday
life in the society of the boilers
I am sure that you have a completely different view
of the world now here is my policy on this
matter I do not impose this information to those
who do not ask me themselves, that is, I do not
go up to a stranger and do not
talk about the third thing that is happening
because in order to believe my story a
person needs to stop believing in
something else if you are an ordinary person in
our society
who function and succeed you
believe in what you were taught in school,
you will have to throw out a lot, so I do
n’t force this on anyone, people who
already have some understanding, they come to
ask me like this, I say all
the interviews that I gave,
as you said, pro bono interviews, I
always try to go I
try to share this information with
people who want to know and many don’t
want to know, and it happened that
there were people who are not in the know who I
had to tell about this and it’s
visible on the face, firstly they lose
confidence in this, they don’t think that I’m crazy
and it’s possible read in my eyes they
look at me and they’re like, yeah, everything is clear and
if this is an old acquaintance
they respect me and therefore they accept the
possibility that I’m telling the truth and
you can easily see what’s going on in
people’s heads that it’s very difficult for them
to perceive it, okay, but when you
look on the everyday problems of the world,
politics, the corporate system, everything that
people argue and worry about, do you look
at all this from a bird's eye view,
so to speak, and
being someone who has been in space, it's all
throwing dust in the eyes, it's all
manipulation, all the news and fear of this and
that
today they are scaring you with some kind of disease
tomorrow politics
the day after tomorrow North Korea
distractions distractions of
choice and everything else is just a
distraction
they make us believe that
something very important is happening here
when the main thing is down here it’s
not noticeable at all but this little one is
in charge to everyone else, this is what
is happening and this is my view from above
because they were there they didn’t
give a damn about anything when we picked up cargo with
military equipment at the diego
garcia base on the ship we arrived at the base in
the middle of the night and most of the people on the base
did not have access only several people
at the base knew about the existence of our
ship, we went down there in the middle of the night,
that is, it was a secret, even there the
diego garcia base was not an official part of the
secret space program, that is,
it was a concealment within the official
system, of course, but there we were in liters
to take many different military things
destinations and things were brought there on ships
from Russia and Poland and we took
military equipment from there and you and I
left such cargo but in small
quantities so that it could be
hidden, but I apologize, these were
smuggled volumes of cargo, they were
industrial, that’s right, no, we took
industrial volumes we took jeeps for
example
once we took on board an entire
hovercraft answers it was a
huge transporter for transporting
marines but what I want to say about the
diego garcia base it was necessary for an
American officer to give us a
signature every time we loaded
something -one of us needed to
go down to the runway
to sign
and he says one day
you guys have already exceeded the budget, he thought
that we had some kind of gadget in the sense that he
thought that we paid for the goods that we
picked up and you didn’t pay the officer like that
I thought and I thought how I remember that
one day the one who usually went to sign
the paper could not go and they told me that
I should go and when I went there they told me
you guys have already collected a lot on credit,
look at the list and when I was at
the meeting I was cargo
bay engineer at one time and there were 78 people under me the
next morning I was in a meeting I
raised my hand and they turned on the translator
because they spoke German they
used some kind of implant or other
technology
that can be turned on so that I understand
what they are saying I I don’t speak any
language
other than English but they
turned it on periodically then they spoke German and
when I raised my hand
they turned it on and I said I would like to
inform you that yesterday the officer at the
diego garcia base reminded him that we had already
collected a lot on credit and it’s time for us to
pay and they all laughed in unison,
everyone who was in the room, that is, they didn’t
pay a single cent, it was a deception,
that is, they just stole from someone,
they can take whatever they want because of
their access level in the system, they
can leave a small amount choo
here in exchange for a large amount of everything
they need they said there are no
loans they said that’s what people
at the base think because that’s how this system works
and the system doesn’t work that way they also didn’t
pay money for our cargo we gave
it away for free
and that’s it it went into the black budget and it was in
this budget that those two trillion in 2001 ended up,
and today it’s already six
trillion dollars, that’s
right, and then it’s all just written off,
but that’s the whole point, it’s throwing dust in the
eyes of the guy
who used to sign the papers at the
airfield pulled dust in the eyes of the officer from the
base making him think that we would
pay but it was just a signature on
paper and it’s terribly ironic the black
market on the gray and
and inside the shaft system one day we took
when we took things that were
one day we took a cargo of ten thousand
pairs of shoes
they were surplus somewhere and we just
collected them, these boots went back
to the colony for sale but you didn’t pay for them either
no wow interesting and
by the way what needs to be said when listening to
your story
it’s amazing in itself but when
you try to collect everything in a heap on a
practical level and say ok,
how does this system work?
First of all, let's get straight to
the facts. You say that a team of
gray reptiles dismantled you, that's right, they processed you
and carried out some experiments and then
they erased all your childhood memories
before of this moment and now you woke up at the
base on the turn in California and there a
doctor is talking to you at an air base
in California and last night you were being
treated as an alien what is the connection here
we left off last time yes it
seems like that and then I went through the
procedures consciousness control m cauter
exactly that's what I wanted to ask you why it
was necessary to go through the ultra lock
it was very painful it is
consciousness control they are a very big topic it is
very difficult to describe in a short time
yes I taste and it is a large array of
information they break you
they share your personality is at least in
two parts, you know right, first of all
they break your will to resist, I
will try to explain briefly they break
your will and then tests you
to understand what you are best
suited for and they used me by introducing
in the theta state and up to 12 years,
when it was necessary, they injected me with some kind of
drug, I lost consciousness in this
state, I repaired it and I played the
role of a psychic for them and I flew with them on an
airplane and after it
was all over, I was theta
psychic practice in this state of
consciousness, that is to a psychic, these who
have a high level in this practice are
similar, they can even kill mentally, that
is, carry out contract killings, but I did
not do this, I was in Peru, a place
called prt of that bar su them in Peru and
there I stayed for two years before the onset of puberty,
I lost this ability to the moment of
maturation and it was traffic which, that
is, once a month we loaded it onto the
plane, two people except me, the
pilots, the guy who answered the replacements, there
was just Mount Katrina and so I apologize,
let's repeat everything again, I
took it apart and a group of aliens
consisting of fighting gray reptiles they
processed, you were sent to some
military group, which in turn
ruled you through a process of traumatic
consciousness control, after which these military
sent you to Peru to work with
cocaine smugglers as a
psychic, that's right, only this alone will
close all the doors of trust for you people, but
that's great this is exactly how this
hidden system works they lost a
whole plane with coke in the domain of
new planes so they hired, that
is, bought me for money so that I could
work on board the plane, that is, we
fly in
and somewhere after about 300 kilometers of
flight they injected me with something time I
lost consciousness, yeah,
that is, it is activated by the drug, and
then if there was a club ahead or
bad weather awaiting us, they learned
this from me in advance, that is, you
foresaw, you reported, yeah, and then we
flew to the garden city of March in Colombia,
leaving the cargo at that moment when we
landed at the airport I was already waking up and
then flying back, this happened
once a month and the rest of the time I
was just a lost guy with
veins, they kept me in a room with a
black and white TV,
that is, every time they flew from Peru to
Colombia, you never flew to North
America, that’s right, no, and in the end,
you know, there was a lot of stuff there during this
period, I just want to keep
it short, after that I returned
to the setup of the person who owned me and
there I lived for almost three years and it’s good
because now it’s possible investigate
and prove yes you said this last
time although it was very painful and from there
if apple was just sex work I lived
in a house with other boys and we were
used for politicians’ parties and
drank some kind of drink there, that is, they
weren’t allowed to go out at all or you went out to
accompanied by someone it is located on an
island, an estate of 2000 square
meters,
brought in if there was a swimming pool, it’s like
life in a boarding house for boys and
every day they gave us medicine,
more precisely, the table
with additives for training under or
hysterics and one day the tablets were replaced with
new ones and I was allergic to them and
after about three days I got very sick
because of them, mini vomited and I couldn’t help but
exercise
and I asked if it was possible to go back to the
old pills and for some reason
they couldn’t and then I they said okay,
now you're coming to me, they brought me to
some parking lot, two
people were waiting in a minibus,
they injected me with something and I lost
consciousness and woke up again on the moon, and so
let's dwell on how
transparent the transfer of information was
between all these groups between the
drug cartel to them people everything if the
military in California my plan you us
people working on the moon there was
complete transparency, that is, everyone knew
what others were doing
or they handed you over from hand to hand
through intermediaries through intermediaries
exactly according to the example when I was in Peru they
called me Lossa and deftly paquin irene
and bow the crazy boy from the moon
because I told the name
that I was on the moon and they didn’t believe me and
when I got from Peru everyone told me
not to talk about her anymore I
had to remain silent because not all the
boys were there the same as me, that is,
they did not perceive it as a reality,
including the one who owned me was in the know, that
is, the owner knew, my owner
knew everything, he was aware of absolutely everything,
and when I could no longer be
used, they sold me to the military,
it was a purchase transaction -sales
I was sold from group to group it was you who
got to the moon
and then the corporation of Mars colonies and I was
trained as an auxiliary combat
unit, that is, not as a soldier
but as bait they needed more
people for operations we did when
transporting against beetles randy about peace to you
will tell you more about them we made three
sorties and 3 was a complete failure
half of the guys died and the program was
closed after that I was sent to a
city on Mars
and a weight primus where Perry prepared me
first they test your abilities
for repairing ships,
that is, in other words, you taught us
stores and and managed all this
because when Randy tells how he
got to the city of the arrest of Prime, which
is the capital or at least the
central military base on Mars,
all this happened through the Navy and the
solar guardian program, at
least this is what he knows and knows it
looked like an American military unit,
that is, an American base,
when I was on Mars it was all
Americans, even during sorties at the
forward base there were only American
Marines, in addition there was there during
Thorny it was Americans
after that I was sold I went to a
colony on Ceres
we got on the train you were talking with the
sound of puro and with the sound of cube and then
the train immediately stopped for about
five to ten minutes in total we were traveling and when I
got off the train
I found myself in a huge underground hangar
full of German soldiers
it was the Nazis everything was different the
rock was a different color and so on, I was in
shock, they didn’t tell me where they were
sending me, they just told me to get on the
train,
I wasn’t instructed on anything,
and there I spent about 12 years and I
worked on one ship for
about 7 or 8 years, it was an old
ship that everything time broke down
and then the ship was decommissioned I was sent
to new ships shaped like a drop or a
pumpkin seed
this is the type of ship that
Corey Good talks about and there is an artistic
depiction of it yeah I stayed on it for the
last three years until it was time
to return and so this system seems to
permeate everything here I am the US Army and a
billionaire from a group of Satanists and a
drug cartel probably connected with Ceru and
the military
and they all had access to the
same resources, that is, people like me and
when we move on to the German colony of the
dark fleet and who did they report to?
are they independent groups no when
they got into some problems they
reported to the fight at the base
which are in the time bubble
near the jupiter
time bubble I because
last time I think I missed it and I
wondered how they could have them there
base because that Jupiter is the big
center of activity for everyone else when
we flew into it it was dark there were
no stars visible we saw a
large metal building with a base there was
complete darkness all around and we had to
get out of the bubble in the same manner otherwise
we ended up in another time and one day we
ended up so we ended up outside at 16:00
until the moment of release and you we had to
stay on the soot for 16 hours of flight we
had to fly until
our planned time of
return to base arrived, for this we made a
detour on the way back to Ceres the navigator
made a mistake and we came out of the bubble
incorrectly ending up at 16:00 in the past
and this bubble seems not to be visible to anyone
outside around Jupiter,
that’s right, this is a temporary anomaly, this is
one of these bubbles for me around Jupiter and everyone is
snooping back and forth doing their dark
deeds,
I don’t know how it works physically and
flew out there to report to the authorities
in the person of the fight
when we did something, yes you
did something, it seems you crossed
some boundaries in the trading process,
that’s right, yes there were cases when someone
pedaled us in transactions and material of that and that
was the reason why you had to
report to marriage or because
you violated some agreements there were
many agreements there are a number of
laws regulating relations between the
colonies and we violated these laws
systematically violated all possible
rules we had love, remember I
said that I had seven eight
children We had guys under our command who were
trained in dredging; when we flew up
and unloaded our goods, there were guys
who came down from the ship and stole
other cargo from the same warehouse, and we
did this very often, so there was no
adherence to the law; space
is huge and we flew very great and
traded with many different people and
under people I am not leading aliens and
very often we flew in,
stole something and flew away
never to return there again and so we talked about the
presence of the Americans and the dark fleet
between which there seems to be some
semblance of cooperation I don’t
overlap periodically but I hope they don’t work
directly but what about people from other
places and programs that are run by
European countries I know that you
worked with the Europeans
targeted on ships
but have you ever met
people from other countries on the bosom of Mars or targets ari
you know, during my work there I
was a slave and wore a collar, so
socially I didn’t go out anywhere
so that I could communicate with someone, I couldn’t get
to know anyone before,
I didn’t really go anywhere, but there were people
who flew in with a friend, but there, would you believe it?
you are defined not by
what country you are from, but because you are from some
colony, there is a colony on Mars and a colony
on Ceres, so for example, for me, this
guy is low and the Slovaks, this guy is from
Mars,
he is from Maxi or he is from the moon or from other
colonies, but here’s how people identify
themselves as
although they come from some country on
earth you need to get to know them better
before you find out about it from
conversations and they are usually there for hire or
on line 20 back like you were
so they don't have any
national signs that would
matter right I'm sorry they're
usually there on contract or in service
like you or randy
so they couldn't say that I'm from
such and such a country and our country does
such and such here right many people
who I worked with on the ship in the cargo
hold knew where not many people spoke
other languages
automatic speech translators were
very popular there many people communicated
in other languages
we were proud of where they were from there was a
guy who spoke Italian and
he always bragged about it at the same time
he didn’t remember the Italians
since his memory was also erased, but every
time we flew to land we flew to
South America and unloaded there and the
guys told me, too, you lived in Peru, you’re
glad to be home again and we were far from
was but everyone considered me guy from Peru
although I wasn't from Peru you had no idea
where you were from right america I know
I'm from America I wow as for
since the guys who were in command were all
born there they were born on Ceres
these Germans were born and lived on Ceres and
they rather just now it looks so good
since they had access to
advanced medical technology I
think they look exactly as
I remember them I know you didn't go out and
communicate small but observing the social
dynamics among the people in the colony of these
Germans
who were born in colonies, what
was their main motivation for doing
what they didn’t do, they still have a
monetary system, that is, money status is
in price there, the
whole system was managed in a military way, the
prince and all the German guys
who worked with us on the ship wanted to
get a promotion to work for
triangular warship, apparently it
paid the best, gave more
prestige, they were all trying to get
a promotion, it was always what you
work for, including for us, if you
worked well, a promotion was expected for you,
if you think about it, this group was subordinate to their
brother and on earth we have the same system
you have the stimulation of work for
which you work and nothing else, but
they also had status and rak,
that is, for them it was important, everything was
organized better than we have here
because here you just work
to buy a better thing, a car, and so
on, but there they worked for status and
along with status you had more
rights, you had the right to take
a day off
at a certain rank, you could visit
another colony, you
could spend a vacation on the moon and they
worked very hard for this, they
had a very effective whip system and
carrots
and punishment were also there you had a
real fear of punishment and demotion and
went through such a punishment at the end and
it was very tough I had to
work a double shift because I was
demoted in the last six months
of work I had to do
my job first as a correspondent manager yes and then
go to the lower compartment to ship the boxes
and I know that you were punished during
one of the missions
when we refused to press the button and
release a nuclear charge
that would destroy an entire civilization,
this was the only mission when I was
punished,
this mission that failed and it
was almost at the very end of the service and it was
because of this that I was demoted, it’s
difficult to talk about we traded with one
advanced civilization,
they were showered with gifts, we were loaded with
Vaseline, replenishing goods within a month
and all this was an exchange for technology, they
had to give us some
advanced technologies this was our
main mission most of the time we
exchanged goods for goods, but we
tried to exchange commodity technologies
or technologies for technologies, that is,
we tried to advance technologically with the
help of this and probably this is much
faster than doing research with nipples
and this was our main goal in life this is
what we worked for every morning on the
main mission ship, the
extraction of more technology was proclaimed,
this is all they wanted, we delivered
goods to these guys and for some reason they
were offended or something else and they
canceled the deal after which we sat without
there were several things to do
and then we were called to this base, a fight
near Jupiter, the captain and we all flew
to this base, the captains, two officers went
to meet with the main one, tremble, and on the
way back, he was completely broken by the
swarm, they took him back in a fresh one, and we
ran back as quickly as possible on the
ship the fight said that we had already
spent too much money and that they would
not give us any more weapons
and that we had to use
nuclear missiles made on earth
cruise missiles and researchers
always ask why it was necessary to
use cruise missiles
we had other more advanced types of
weapons but the fight said that we
had spent too much money and that we
needed to use our own rockets
so we flew to the end diet base
and took two drums from there
they were rockets in a renault logan cylindrical
drum
they were huge the thing is that I was
trained to work on a crane we had an
anti-gravity crane, that is, you
just direct a beam of light on the pear, a
vortex flow of energy is created that
lifts and is carried, but in case there
was a snowfall or a sandstorm and
the anti-gravity did not work, we had a
simple france with retractable booms
that folded surveys and in my
wing of the ship I was the only one
trained to operate this crane there
was only two of us and we had never
used it
I had literally never used it and that's
what happened
they connected the scrub drum program
from my station I had to press start to
turn the drum and this whole
thing was sticking out in the cargo
compartment, the hatches opened and the drums were
pushed out on a crane and we
flew there, everyone understood what was happening
to us, crush the brochures with the manual, a
case of radiation contamination,
everyone understood what it was for, although she
told me what was happening, we just took
the cargo and no one was allowed to see what kind of
cargo it was and it took time for the north
to install all this on the ship,
we had one or two output knives until
they pushed it onto the ship and we
flew to this planet and all the guys
said who would refuse to carry out the rick, this is an
advanced civilization and we are blocking
the order to shoot at them and that’s it they started talking
and during the meeting I raised my hand and
said the guys in the cargo compartment
refuse to shoot, everyone said don’t
worry, we’ll just flex our muscles, we wo
n’t shoot, we arrived at the place, I didn’t
immediately start shooting, I received
an order to turn the drum and
listen to it, I was in on the other wing of the ship, I
heard a rocket take off,
the sound was very loud, so I laughed and
knew that they were shooting and received an order
to turn the drum and all I had to
do was boil it, turn it for yours,
it was my wonderful
order, it came, it was the most
terrible feeling that I've ever
worried and I wasn't lazy, I didn't follow
the order and they turned on the electric shock on my
car, we didn't have time to discuss it, but
during the consciousness control procedures they
put us in cages through which they sent
electricity and when they beat you and then
you just lost all will to
the resistance and so they gave the order
to shoot and why did they talk to me
through the microphone why don’t you shoot your
wife about spinning the drum
I did not obey and received an electric shock and
then I did and the missiles flew
but they left because I walked on the collar
turned on I was lying on the floor and I was fighting in my
pants and they didn’t turn it off for quite a
long time, they demoted me, no more
trips to the shift,
I went down to a further position on the
ship, that is, I did my usual
work and then went to the lower compartment and
manually lost boxes of 80 working
hours, I moved to 14 16 hours of work
every day before that I had
a salary and the right to go into the city,
I had a girlfriend and I lost
the opportunity to see the world of
morons
and generally go out into the city and that was
the end of my career and
they don’t have
any doubts about this, you
worked there for many years, they didn’t even
consider your case, yes, you
screwed up once, but it was from
good intentions, so since you
earned merit, you might not be punished,
but in the end they gave an order from above, after
all, you had some kind of punishment - then
merit, yes, that’s why I wasn’t killed
or thrown out of work on a ram and I
earned enough
and it was my mitigation I wasn’t
thrown out of work on the ship and it so
happened that these were the last six
months of my 21 years
if I had more years five in stock
I would have gone up andro if I had
five years in stock also a couple of years I would have
worked it all out but those were the last six
months and usually when someone
came back they held a
farewell ceremony and
lined everyone up and saw them
off. I was called,
one officer took me
to see me off and lectured me the whole
way, he said he's going back to
his life, don't worry about your girlfriend,
don't benefit the ball, marry a good guy and
forget about everything and don't look back,
sounds like you're really, really
attached to that place, well, I had a
girlfriend, I was attached to her, I wanted to
see her again, or
we never said goodbye, and the last
time I saw her, she was busy,
we said hello to each other, and while her face,
I never saw her again, and now what
happened
on the way back I didn’t want
to forget anything all the way back I keep saying I
will remember I will remember
now as for the trade missions you
said that you flew to earth
regularly almost every day and you also
traded throughout the solar system and
beyond can you tell where you
details are very far away we did not fly to
neighboring star systems they said
that only one percent of all our
missions were on the system
we see it in our sky, that is, we always
flew further than all the stars that
can be seen at night in vain all these systems
were already there worked out
there there was nothing to do they knew that we were
like mountains we had places that no
one had yet discovered there were so many more
civilizations in space
that we did not suspect and we
tried to find new ones to change with
them we technologies and how in you you had the
technology of scanning space where
you could find a star and planets and
see who was on it and then send a
group of representatives before you
start trading until there is some way to
organize all this because every
time we arrived where there was already there
waiting for us, there was a way to send a
message with the intention of trading there was
some kind of initial acquaintance
that was organized at some
level and I know that there were places where
you were forbidden to fly due to the
fact that your colony was a
slave colony,
what were these places until inside the solar
system we could not approach
Venus
and Pluto for some reason there is
whose colony I'm not very advanced
once and they had the right not to let
us God have warehouses in the Kuiper belt that
we used,
that is, the garage where the Ceres colony everything
was folded
was in the Kuiper belt it's us
they left a ground of forces that can be
disassembled before they try,
yes, no, a
new one, as
they said, that there were many times who didn’t care
with whom they were trading, that’s right,
we on Ceres were constantly moving
on which they sang the red carpet
and accepted,
that is, they had no remorse
in in order to deal with someone who
supports the slave system,
I'm sure that many had squabbles, but
it's also like with countries in their trade
among themselves there were many guests whom we had
never before, they could walk freely
on a coupon they were received as very important
guests of ambassadors I couldn’t inspect
the colony to carry out trade negotiations or
agree on any other services
because they did the same thing as there are
many times who are not so advanced
from the colony on cheese and they wanted to get
some of our technology by committees
so the economics and trade of tank
space is very, very actively and everything
is based on exchange,
they are based on the monetary system, probably what
you said about the countries on earth is not entirely
accurate because we are all here
on the same planet and therefore there is always
conflict and we fight for resources with each
other, which is why we don’t
always have trade it goes so smoothly but in space
where people are separated by a huge distance
no one cares who you are and what you
do they just fly in, take what
they need and no longer contact you
that’s right I can’t stand these people they
stink
but their guns are baking and I I want guns like this, this is exactly
how it all happens, this is how you
think, when everything is revealed and we
have access to this entire community,
there is a possibility that we will still
stand out among others
as a more spiritually or at least morally
developed paradise, and there are a huge
number of times in space and it turned out that the
militarized version of our civilization kept
everything secret, locked the planet
and went out into space making
contact with other militarized
versions of aliens, so I think when
we go out there as a free society
we will be greeted by the same free
society when you find yourself in a new one.
you will not be friends with everyone,
but you will definitely find friends
among any large group of intelligent
beings, we will definitely find those with whom
we can establish relationships, and I think we
happily met
you; this has not happened before, or
now they are simply exchanging
skis and skis everywhere they are working a little on their own
development,
but not really right now they are working there
just to get things, but
as soon as we go out there, so spiritual
seekers of civilization are developing with us,
I am sure that many
will welcome us with open arms,
we know a lot about the topic, but we
will have to learn a lot,
it seems these guys are on Ceres and the values ​​​​are
so different from
the rest of humanity
as we know ourselves that they had to from the
well the difference in values ​​​​is too
great, they cannot function
within modern humanity and
therefore one day they will be pricked from us
completely and when we are freed and
see everything that what happens is that we
will finally decide to be a
society that does not encourage such a
system and will join a society
that shares our values
throughout history we have created various
systems based on your blood and some
of them were better and some will come a
time when we need to end
this school and create a new system when
people will be completely free and
where is their purpose because
living in slavery is an incredible joy, this is a
lagging system if you are a society in
which there are slaves you are simply harming yourself,
that is, we are drowning out the potential of people,
forcing them to work only for your
potential you force them to work in
routine jobs and how you miss those
people who could potentially
invent something breakthrough,
you miss the next Michelangelo
because he doesn’t paint but does
slave labor and the next Weinstein
because this person doesn’t
contribute to being working then there are you
yourself time how many of these Einsteins
I live was not recognized because they
were slaves and people do not realize that we are
really enslaved even if we take
the colony on Ceres 225 thousand people
population 40 thousand one temple and I tie
them 40000 there was at least one Einstein
all the rest never knew what
breakthrough he could make great
that if one of these 40 thousand people
was the next song you know what kind of
people could help everyone else
move forward and that's why slavery
hurts kim what supports him
and forcing slaves to do the work for you
also doesn't develop there is
also karmic in this, again you are
harming yourself, you are slowing down your own
development, there
is a karmic problem here and they
found a loophole for a short time, but for the
long term, for example, a thousand
years in the future, this has no future and they are
slowing down their own development and we are
slowing it down too,
and when we let's become a free open
society game everything will be achieved
all information is available and you will need to
have a certain level of humanity
we will develop much faster we will
speed up our development
ok now I would like to talk about
communicating with aliens this is a very
interesting topic and I know that you have seen and
communicated with many races and which of
them were the most impressive and
unforgettable there was a praying mantis on Mars with
whom I had contact it was
very powerful my dog ​​about the same were not the
ones I saw during my
train trips on a coupon I remember
one time I boarded the train saw the
representatives of Vatel are not the enemies of the notes of the
differences and when you look at my dear you see
some kind of glowing effect as if she were
springs from besides the light
this 5 focused your gaze you did not
see these sparks it is
presented that when I look at you
I can see some sparks of light but
as soon as I look away from
Cezanne’s Troy, perhaps it was some kind of
technology
and this creature was very large, about
three and a half meters high, she rode
reclining, I occupied a whole row of seats on the
train, I was under
with the artists to capture this
creature, it was amazing sight and a
very advanced creature and I
was forbidden to communicate with aliens to the crab
so I just looked I was
very impressed
I was shocked it was a very
advanced creature I also hear that
you went to a psychic there on Ceres
there was a child a hybrid who
predicted the future
is true yes he was half of the spheres but I
knew who it was working because it was the
same minutes that they used on
me with blackout I walked
past them every day on the way from work and
it was temporary snow they
only worked there for a couple of weeks and they
were just sharing me, so I paid on the basis of
introducing they said the future and I
empathized with this creature
because it was a phrase of the situation that I
when they were also injected with some kind of
drug, it seems there were four or
five such booths separated by curtains,
it was such a temporary oral or kiosk
it was something like a tour and she
predicted my future, a very vague
moment, but in the end everything turned out to be
very accurate, it was this creature who said
that I remembered everything, gave me
confidence
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exactly said that one day I was like I
went and said everyone, think about it,
I remembered all of this, erasing the memory will not
work, but overall it was a bit of a
sad picture, I sympathized with him, it
was a hybrid of gray and the person you also
said that you communicated with 1 of the very
tall ones who owned all the
commercial establishments there on Ceres,
that’s right to one of the two tall herbs
and yes, I was on the server, all the commerce
was done by these tall people with
extended equipment were moving who
lived this way or constantly to the flywheel
2 times it hurt the short two options
first and they all had long hair
but the tall ones owned the whole business as
on as far as I know they were born with a purpose
and the girls prostitutes on Ceres
were all slaves too and went through the same
mind control process as you,
yes but they went through a slightly different
version they did not have drugs and
other things, I asked them about it but Yes,
they were slaves, you said that they, too,
all had their memories erased and that they were all from
Earth, but since there were so many
aliens there, who also visited
bardelli,
were there any working girls and
aliens, no specifically in that bar, there
were only girls from Earth, but
aliens visit their food sex between
different races exists
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it’s hard to imagine
but that’s exactly what happened there it was just
as valuable let’s jump so
they tried to use everything that was sold
there as a business and dodik are we in
gender relations how busy I am
striving get yourself there is a
demand for this and they are willing to pay well for it
I know our time is up for today
thank you so much Tony
this was amazing and I will contact
Michael Sun and ask his permission to
translate the five part interview series
he did with you they very
interesting but for today thank you it was
great let’s talk again sometime okay
write to me
I’ll probably be free tomorrow if
you want to continue