[music]
Hello dear
friends, today I am contacting you again
from my not very warm
home, work is going on
and we will get through this someday. So
today we are starting a very important stage in the
work of our channel, this information is in the
form of an interview with Joseph
Paulo with an
extremely
interesting person This person is quite
seriously connected with the life line of Penny
Bradley with other veterans of the secret
space
program I think that a lot of what
you
will hear will be unexpected for you, even for those who
consider themselves already well versed in the
topic of SSP in the topic of Monk
those details
that you
will hear but they are worth a lot and
to make it clear what it’s
all about, don’t forget,
friends, everything that is connected with the
skein with other places where
monstrous abuse
of
children took place. This is all the
foundation on which the Secret
Space Program of the Americans and their
allies, partners,
vassals was grown. there is, due to this
inhumane monstrous experiment, if I may
say so, it
was created that today
we can call a breakaway
civilization, that’s what it all stands on.
Unfortunately, it still stands. Well, I really hope
that all this
will be
interesting to you and please don’t forget that to
Alexander Cherkasov VS still needs
help,
he, together with our channel, he does
extremely important work and he
gets friends, and just recently
it became clear who is bothering him
there,
not in a childish way, as they say And these are
still the same ones from whom
shadows fly to me and so on further That
is, these enemies of ours
take Alexander’s work very very seriously
and therefore he needs to continue to help
all his details are always under the video So
whoever has this opportunity Please
don’t forget So let’s
watch
[music]
Okay So today I’m talking with Joseph
Pal who was in Monto from 1970 to
2014 if I'm not mistaken yes it was from
1970 to
2014 Okay let's start
first let's briefly talk about how you
got into Monto
And what you did
there Okay so what I remembered for
today I have notes So that I
sometimes look into them is
excellent from what I remember when I
first got to Monk I was brought there from
another
base I remember that I was in the White
van in which they brought me to mo I
think it was
battery 112 at first but there were other
batteries that were used to
take children put them in cages and
stuff but what I remember is being pulled
out of the
cage others remember the
same thing I remember being pulled out of the
cage scared I don't even remember how I
got into the cage
originally they were transporting us in cages in the
back of
the van I remember how we were taken to one of the
batteries where there were also cages in which
we were put, essentially it all started And
this is the place where They
carried out the reception, essentially that is, that
is, reception and processing, like when you
arrive at some garrison, you are
accepted and registered that's what they
did essentially you can tell how
old you were
then I think I was about 78 years old I guess
then I know that I was in a cloned
body also
Okay Maybe then we'll briefly say how
it happened because I know that you were I
think you said in past
interviews that you got
there from Nakht it's
true yes I think as far as I remember I
was
in I was in prison somewhere with Altero
Peni and they left me behind And after
that
they transported me to Antarctica but it
was no longer Nakht Van it was another
group that captured us and when they
brought me there they had already done
age regression but I
was still in that old
alter and in the process of everything that was done
there I think they either did
age regression or cloned me I don’t
remember exactly what happened way from
this place to Antarctica but I remember that
as soon as I got from there to Antarctica
There they began the process of processing assets
as they called them that fell into their
hands and already there I eventually switched to
my other Alter and this is Jimmy and
this is the one who served in monto then So that
is, after a lifetime of
service in space you end up that is, you
were not originally Monto's child who
ended up in montauk like most stories
that start with monto as a child but
you actually served in
space first and then came back back You
know the name of the ru that took you
to Antarctica and
then from what the penalty says I think
that it could be the
ISC I personally am not 100% sure But I wouldn’t
argue with that there’s a possibility that it
was them I wouldn’t doubt it
I remember the faces of people who are not
public now I try to refrain from
calling them them
But Yes there was a
scientist who began the process of working with
us
to break us and so on and there were
many children who ended up in
Monta essentially all the children I remember
in Antarctica when we were in cages
there and they let us out Sometimes to
walk a little under the supervision of guards And
many of these people are in
childhood and they are now public and
non-public some of them were there
Okay So what you are saying is when
you got to Yuzhny pole, they needed to
split the mind in a new way. I don’t
know whether they split the mind in a new way. I
think that the point was that one of
my alters simply came to the surface
in the process of making my
original alter, who was on the
surface, was called HP and everything from him
Switched to my Alter Jimmy
who came forward and this is because
many children there were laughing at the name
penda I don’t know if he was ashamed or
something happened but he hid in a corner and
Jimmy came to the
surface So 1970 seems to
be official the start date
that they call in the books by Preston
Nichols and others even later a little he
says that it was seventy-two
about when the real Work began
If I remember correctly Preston came in
seventy-two Yes I was I remember that I
was there before I came there Preston
But he was the one who started the process of
programming this altar. I see.
So what happened after you
arrived and they accepted you, what was
the situation like, what did you remember, I remember that
They came in with fire hoses
to wash us down, there are others who remember The
same thing, I remember that I ate dog food food just
like the others, this is what they fed us
and they just threw us One bowl of food
for everyone, they didn’t give us separate bowls for
each child in his own cage I remember
washing, that is, once every while
They came in and doused us with fire
hoses very quickly and we were wet
and had to air dry
just themselves at a certain moment they
started to grab
us I remember I remember the very first meeting with Sal
Bik So According to my
memories there one time I think he
arrived there from the future and then later he
came from the past to the future and he
Perhaps didn't remember
it, yes I don't think he remembered it
or he could remember But just not
talking about it there was a lot of things that I
think he remembered but didn't tell. Clear
We'll talk about Ali and the others a little
later Okay So after they
took us away they started to grab us after
he took away the necessary children, in fact
I remember that his Alter Altera ala bilka's
name was
Alan and as far as I remember Alan
sorted psionic abilities And those who didn't have
children without abilities were removed and taken away
aside and he used his psionic
abilities Yes, to sort you out he
said that he saw an aura and could tell
who had abilities and who did not Yes, I
saw an interview where he talked about this I
began to see flashes of memories of me
standing in a line with other children I remember
that when this happened I was
scared because he clearly explained that
if we were not chosen, we would be fed by the fights
that were at the
base and it really scared me. I remember
that in my childhood head I was very afraid
and thought that if only he would choose me because
that I don’t want to die right away, it was a
very scary situation because all
the children were crying, begging for their lives to be saved,
begging to be returned to their parents, a lot of other
things. So you were brought in a larger
group, it turns out with other children from
other places.
Because you seem to be
yes. That’s how it is was when we were
accepted at the very beginning when they
pulled us out of the van if you tried
to resist or fight back that is,
naturally react and defend yourself bite fight
scratch they beat you
when
they pulled you out they were people from the army
soldiers or the air force
from what I remember they were people dressed
in military uniform but they and many of us
including my altar and other alteros
later dressed in the same thing so I'm
not sure if they were military
maybe they were you think they were also
under mind control or they
were just chosen based on my
sociopathy I think that it was
individual I think that there were people
who worked there actively not under the control of
consciousness and there were people under the control of
consciousness Okay for example in the case of Alla it
was with him that his manner changed
It was very strange he switched
you know that is so he was one
person and then he switched to his
alternate personality which was
more violent. So I remember that this
happened often and I don’t know if
it was two Alters that changed between
themselves or if it was him and then one of the
Alts took it from him management if
it’s clear what I mean because this
happens to me myself When alters
change Here and now and also with other
people So what was daily
life like
there Okay and
so what happened as I said With
processing they dragged us into rooms they
brought us to rooms they put on us
some kind of metal bowls that were
connected to something on our heads that
were connected to something it was in
one room it looked like they were
connected to some kind of computer I don’t
know what exactly they were doing but I remember
that you passed out and then came back to
consciousness and then after this
procedure they took us and sent us
back to the
cells and then they took us into rooms
to watch the video on the spotlight they
had a spotlight that showed on the wall
and there were desks at which we
basically watched propaganda videos that they
made to
brainwash us Like children and what exactly
was in those videos there were different things
there were
cartoons that they showed
different clips from cartoons almost
Disney
cartoons And then there were also videos
telling us that we were special we are
here with the special the purpose of this kind of thing
Okay, I remember that after that they
took us out and put us in a monk chair
and usually there were guys who had already
been there before and were older, they
came and picked us up and took us there, I do
n’t know if this was done to make the children cooperate more easily.
more willing to make contact with
someone Who, as you knew, has already gone through all
this, if you don’t do what they
say, then they could be harmed. I
remember how they took me away and brought me, that
is, usually the children resisted so that they would
not be taken away and we were told by the person
who spoke publicly but never
showed his face this is Larry James in the
mock his name was different it’s just a name
he took when recording an audio
interview He seemed to be in charge of the
time tunnel According to him Yes he was
in charge of the technology of the chair he
was usually in this room I remember him That is,
how he
spoke his way of speaking I remember what
he said there exactly the same way when he spoke
to us we knew about other children we
heard rumors that they disappeared when they
were pulled in the wrong direction so we knew that
we had better listen to his instructions
because he said: If you lose, we
won’t look for you, I remember how he told
us this often and when I began to remember
more, I realized
that that is, when I began to remember More and
more, I remember that there was a cage in the room.
I remembered that there was a cage there. in
which they brought you and you looked at what was
happening to the other child on the chair and
then they pulled you out
and put you in the chair. It was for what purpose to
scare you, I don’t know. I believe that it
was so that we would become more accommodating
with the focus of the center, otherwise you would get lost, so
I remember how I was thrown out to other
places, some places were depicted on the
covers of books Yeah, I remember, I remember
being There was a statue of a golden horse, but no,
I remember that too, but that was It was
later, after we got used to
working in a chair, but I remember
going When I was already a little older, they
put me in a chair and they sent
me to a planet where there were a lot of forests and
where there was this pink calla, it was real,
there were very strange animals, people in
Monta thought that then they thought that there
were aliens with whom they
came into contact but knowing what I know
now from the memory of other places It
was just the Germans who played with them.
I see. So the overall goal of the whole project
was to explore space-time
and the goal was to figure out how to move
to other places on other planets or
within this planet, it seems they
first worked on earth and then they started
other planets to see how
far we could go with this
chair until they got to the point of
much later much later
opening portals here on the planet to
go out through them to grab children from
different time periods or send
us to different time periods to
change the time line so essentially we
have Three groups of children Those who did not go through the
selection and were, as you said, a
fight, those who participated and could
do something but were lost in
the end, right Yes, and then the third group is those
who survived and are now telling their story
history how many people How many children were
lost How many children were lost do you think percentage I know it's
hard to say exactly from what my
Alter told me let's see Wait a
second I have a record of
this that I got from my Alter
Jimmy He said that the total number of
children killed was approximately
287,000 of them there was more but this was before the
Phoenix project itself So Oh you
mean before the seventieth year yes yes
that is even before the beginning of everything when children were
sacrificed there for other purposes
or simply died there and according to
Jimi the children who were in clones and
who died
can speak so precisely, but
because later the files came to him
when he became the head And it’s clear he
had all the files in his hands and so on Wow, that’s
interesting because many of them
say that the files were destroyed just
yesterday I watched Ala’s interview Bilka and
others, he said that all the documentation
was destroyed or lost in a fire,
etc., and probably a lot was
transported to another place.
Well, there were a lot of documents, there were
personal files. There were a bunch of different files
about everything about everyone. When we managed to
fully take the helm and to gain a foothold in
this position and it was not only me, when
I became the main one there were a lot of people with me,
but when we got to the
office there were people who realized that they needed to
look at the documentation and files for
different participants, they began to
look through these
documents to find out different things. Sometimes I
was busy working somewhere on the base, so
I had a man who was my
right hand. He was working on documents and he
began to study everything that was there and every
time he found something that
was of value or was interesting to
us, he passed it on to me and later I myself
I went through the documents when I began
to realize that there was a lot of information
for us. Okay. So let's use this
moment to indicate a brief
chronology and overview of what was happening
there since you said that the seventieth year was the
beginning, it was also the beginning for you,
but something happened there before this and
of course we know that Penny and others were
there before Yes and this is not official
probably But as you see it now
in brief that is year after year or
decade by decade what do you remember happened
there So after the seventieth year
this WTO year was when they
started this is the time when I met with
Presto us and he was the one who started
programming
me I remember
him his name Altera was Nicholas from
what I got from my Alter Jimmy and
Altera's name was Nicholas he started the
programming process With the help of music and
he had a musical the room that he
showed on camera during one of his
walks around the base had red wallpaper with
gold, some kind of golden things,
something like that, but when you entered this
room there
was such an old old musical
machine with
records, an old record player, one
of them stood on a wooden table he sat
you on a chair it seems there was also a
piano there other people remembered that there
was a piano in this room
and he also took music from the present or
the past and mixed them to make something
that whatever he did with this music I
don’t know how this the process worked But
this is what he was good at, that is,
using music to put people
into a trance state and he would play
this music until you went into a trance and
then start doing things to you like
gardening and so
on.
What exactly was this for
I think that it was simply
programming Alter to make
him more obedient with code
words, code phrases, and so on. That is,
there were code words that he instilled. Oh
yes, but there was also a process in which he
tried to create a Labyrinth inside our
minds so that if we wanted to rebel
against them
later because at first they force
you to obey through violence, in the
end violence happens so often that
you just get used to it, so people
have already stopped obeying without
moving to a new level of
violence, whether it be
physical or
emotional emotional violence,
physical violence worked but there
were those with whom it didn't work
effectively enough so he learned to create
a labyrinth in our mind where he forced
you basically he forced you to make
a sacrifice
afterwards And when you sacrificed
these adults there were other people
in closed hoods I remember that there was a
fight from the working Caste or a reptilian from the
working Caste who was there with the
hood closed but they force you to make
a sacrifice and then I think the goal
was to psychologically convince
some of your alters that they are Monsters and
for them to take on this
role Uh-huh
I was talking about this with another
person who served with me there and
he said that these were alters. That is,
he placed specific alters in this
labyrinth who were responsible and considered
themselves guards and when you tried to
leave the labyrinth you went the wrong way and they
attacked
you in your head in your head Yes,
causing aneurysms in the brain and okay that is
They produced a physical effect
Yes
I see So in these
sacrifice rituals they forced you
to do
things actively and it was Alter who
later attacked you in the labyrinth this is the
conclusion I came to I understand
Because when you met this Personality
when you went through the labyrinth, She considered
herself a monster and automatically attacked
you because she also
created this
process
to believe that she is like that and that she
should kill you.
I also wonder how Alter is
separated
from other segments of reality. That is,
how Alter actually separates so
that he stays in his place why is
this not just some episode that you
remember that you were there and it is part of you
how he separates from you
they use different methods that
split your mind if they can
create a situation Where is your the mind will be divided
because I remember different methods.
When I was at the school where I studied from the
first
grade, employees of these
programs worked there to split our
consciousness, they took us, they took us
to some
room and they sat there and
after teaching this Alter they took cards
with code words that they
showed
you and so they fixed these different
personalities that they could bring to the
surface And your personality send
your real front personality
send to the background and They gave them
code words they accompanied it from
what I remember with an electric shock, that is, they
gave an electric shock, they attached
electrodes to our head and other places
there. Clearly, that is, they shocked you and
switched to another mode, apparently
which for the mind was a completely different
Personality yes As soon as they
split off suggestions and training Okay
So usually these were torture is very common,
for example in Monta we broke later when
my Alter himself trained the children, he broke them
at the
beginning and other people with
whom I served talked about it,
but that is, we brought them to the
training room and there we broke them
as
much as possible, that is, it’s like in the army when they
take you they break you and then
build you again while you remain the
same person and they don’t break your
psyche but they bring you almost to
this point We brought children to the point of
death or death and then revived
them a lot of this was done to activate
their psionic abilities but also to
fix in
them that the only thing they will
do is obey
orders but Once they split off
this separate Alter they do not endow
him with any
moral structure that is right
wrong means nothing to him
wherever he knows right and wrong but
to some extent But the main thing was
that you could do Even if you
understood what was right and
wrong, submission to obedience was
a guarantee that they would not do anything to you
that they could do to
you, that is, they created them so that
they would not there was free will Essentially yes
and they had different functions
yes So this was the basic
process of the seventies It seems that what
other significant events we can
name So Yes it was the seventy-second
year when Preston came there
then later in the seventy-second
year I remember that George That is alte
tresi I remember that he appeared there
around that
time he was a little older
then but They continued to put us in the
position of people who did this to us
when we were children that is, as
we grew up in our
teens they began to train
us to go and we did the same thing, but when we
really started saying, go pick up
the children, we went to the battery on the cat, we
loaded them, that is, after we
received them, processed them, we loaded
them onto the bus and took them to the base itself, that
is, to the place where the radar
tower is located. Some of us could go into
the city, that is, we were in a bubble but could
leave it. And others could not
enter it, they had to do
something special to enter it, but
it was outside the time of space.
So the time we influenced in
this Here and Now did not change in any way
inside the bubble, that is, they could change
something Here and Now but it did not
affect us and we needed to leave this
time bubble to see what
we changed in this timeline yes And
this is part of the Mission which we will probably
discuss later some people who
were there could leave the base to go home
like Preston and others so they
sometimes came back and
told us we need to change this and
that and we sat and argued with them and
said we have already done it they they said
No we didn't we said no we did and
this is the result and we had to
redo what we had already done in
the sense of changing the
timeline Yes there were cases when we changed the
timeline after they
asked us to do it and then changed
it back and they said after after
they went outside they no longer remembered
that the timeline had changed and then
they came back and told us we need to
do this and that And we said so
we have already done this why do we need to do it
again Yes I remember how you talked about
it this is an interesting topic for future
episodes So in the seventies you
become an instructor essentially in the
project More precisely, not you but this Alter Jimi
is true
Yes, and he willingly obeyed from the very
beginning to do this in the beginning when
he was gender
he reluctantly obeyed he became more
obedient after the
way Preston told him to sit in the
chair when he was a kid and he
said he didn't want to and then he
took him into the feeding room where there was
a fight it scared the crap out of him obviously
And after that he basically obeyed
the program yeah But you know when they
bring you in into the room and you see the corpses
lying in a pile,
they pulled them out of the pile, tore off their
clothes, threw clothes into one pile,
tore off their heads, threw bodies without heads into
another pile and threw their heads into a third
pile and then you see some of them
sitting in another corner in the far corner and
basically eat people and they tell you that it's
going to be you know it's usually sobering
they lived in this room or
that it was essentially their dining room kind of
like a dining room for them in the beginning when
it started the room was bare That is
just four brick
walls, that is, four walls without anything, but
later they decorated it for themselves,
it was a place that they made to
eat there and they had other places and
rooms, they also left and their people
went out and entered through portals and
did something at
the base they did some kind of work at the base
Yes, they did different work, some
went with Presto to us. That is, there were
those who went directly with Presto, let’s be
honest, they accompanied
him, they didn’t always do what he
said, sometimes they interfered and essentially
stopped him from doing what he wanted to
do depending on the situation
for example kill someone Yes One day he
wanted to kill me And one of them got in the way and
stopped him so that he would not kill me but
later He took revenge on me and tortured
me And what was their interest They selected
people for their projects in space, or
as far as I remember their interest was
that they would be fed and in exchange for this
feeding and other things they essentially
gave our technology clearly And this
was not a fight from the empire
I personally don’t know I know that there is someone who
said that they are not from the empire, but I don’t
know, I just know that they were there, I do
n’t know if that’s what they were called, maybe that’s what it
was, that is, the name of the group that
was called Maybe it’s true, I just
know that they were
ruthless and they were very different from the
Draka from the empire with whom I served as
nakhwa
[music]