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Okay We are happy to talk to the bottom of the
bush I just
introduced myself, in fact, I would like
you to briefly introduce yourself who you are and
what you are known for
Well, besides grumpiness,
disobedience to certain
power structures, I am a
retired microbiologist
but continuing to practice in a very an
unusual project called Lotus,
I worked for 20 years and retired from the
Majestic group. I was first attracted there in
1986 under the patronage of the
majority committee and specifically working for
Majestic 12 in the Aquarius project. I'm probably
better known for my meeting with the genus
Sem and Working in sector 4 next
5 what am I known for besides irritating
many people on the Internet who don’t want to
hear about
me So you worked for the mastic group But
in
short I understand that this is a long
story It was a auxiliary project,
in
fact it was funded because everything
I did in was financed
by them at that time It was an auxiliary project
for
MA or as I thought for a long
time However, the principle of lotuses in the
end turned out to be a very critical
subject for the participants of the T9 conference
a couple of years
ago what is the
T9 conference in the process of communication and interaction with
extraterrestrials from the
1950s onwards a
number of agreements were concluded between us and
them, and by it I mean the future
Intelligent race of people, time travelers,
and as a result of our
relationship with
them, several systems
of agreements were in effect during the last
negotiations
and the signing of the last such
agreement. I had the privilege of
being present at these negotiations
on conference that took place in the state of
New Mexico
how many aliens were present there
there were 2 4 6 and a few on a
gurney
Curtains a few on a gurney Sorry
what does that mean they can’t stay
in our atmosphere for a long time the
atmosphere of their future
timeline so being here has an
overwhelming effect on them in our temperature and with
our
pressure, therefore they were provided with
individual
sealed
containers in which their assistants move them
on a vehicle similar to this one,
in fact they can be pushed and they
move and maneuver very easily
in the past a couple of years
ago where they discussed, as I
understand it, in 2004 between 2003 and
2004 oh They Discussed the Lotus Project it
was mentioned
by the way as part of the negotiations
P+45000 Class aliens of the Drot group wanted the
codes of the Lotus principle to be included
in the Treaty Negotiations so that they
could use them in their attempts
to cure their neuropathy oh that
is they immediately saw the value in
it they saw the potential value and
wanted to use it for this purpose. I
stated that it should not be
used for any specific
purpose and that it was a large part of the
natural system that was created by
one of our If you want the gods of the
creators of
the Universe as part of the natural system is
not under the control of the human species
or non-human species, well, they are people, they have a
human genetic line, people,
yes, they are people, they are not like us, they are not
like how we are used to perceiving
people, but
again, if we look at history at the
official history of the evolution of the
human species if any of us
went to a Neanderthal conference they
would be very
shocked in the same way someone would be
shocked to attend a conference with
these
guys
Okay So we have two types of aliens
and the people watching this have no concept
of timeline 2 about two
time lines Perhaps not In
fact, we have three species of aliens from the
human ancestral line that are
present here on Earth d species 45 t
wmm
complex topic Isn’t it true
So two representatives from this
time two representatives from time n
52,000 years in the future
births both like in general
they have the anatomical structure of what in
ufology we call gray gray
Aliens two representatives from + 52000 are
probably called Nordics in
ufology or
tall they are more like people but
their eyes are more
blue It’s clear And of course I have a
lot of questions on this topic I
also have if someone was kidnapped talks about
this they court
you were also
kidnapped in 1973
I was playing in a park in southern California
and this information will come out in one
of the versions of the interview with
me I played baseball with my grandfather in the
park I I asked him to throw the ball to me so that
I could catch it over the shoulder at the same time.
Running away,
Viliy was doing one of these
ball throws. I remember that I looked at the
Sun, which stood high at that time,
it was
summer. I remember how I turned away because
the sun was blinding and looked at the grass.
which was then bright
green and then I saw a flash in
which the grass
seemed to turn
black from my point of view I was as if
covered with some kind of
shadow the shadow reminded me of a triangular
kite in the shape of a
bat that I flew with my grandfather
nearby on a river nearby
so I was able to describe it then I was
how old I was then
then I remember
a flash and then there is a gap in
memories they are not
consistent then I saw my
grandfather sitting next to a
tree a few meters away from me and
the sun clearly moved to a different place
relative to me Therefore it clearly passed
for some time the earth scrolled and time
passed at least several hours passed
he was in a state of Shock I ran up to
him and asked what happened but he didn’t
want to talk about it he says you’re
okay you’re
okay and he wanted to go home So he
immediately took me home along the pedestrian
bridge over Dema Boulevard and we went
home all this caused a serious scandal
at our house between my grandparents and
my
parents at the end of the conv it was added to that
and around the same period I
had
unusual
dreams and in the dream I
woke up they thought I now that these were
dreams No, probably, but I woke up and
walked from my bedroom through the toilet
that connected my bedroom with a small
laundry room that led the corridor to the
northern part of our
house to the right of this place for washing there
was
a closet this is a closet where My grandfather put
his work jacket and boots he worked
for a
company I opened the door of this
closet and this is the sun that I could remember from
this
dream but I knew that when I met him
he was a little
friend I know that I had this
little friend but I no visual
memories of what Harry looked like
Okay well you were kidnapped and you don't
remember
anything from the experience of being kidnapped right
Yes I told what I remember from
this From my childhood
I also remember this all I
think I'm not
sure if it was mine if it was mine
fiction or not because I was a
boy then I think I remember a
tall
man if you take a frame from the film as a
still
photograph almost like a picture from the memory of a
tall man who stood next to
him near the
tree next to your grandfather Yes with my
grandfather and he refused until the his
death to discuss what
happened there, he became very
excited and John and Dodie
talked to
him a lot, even
John is your father and mother
Yes, this is your mother and
everything Since then, which only
confused everything in terms of who really
was mine biological father and
biological mother and so
on but they were my mom and dad
who I grew up with who I knew but they are not1
right not the head of Majestic
no somehow this kidnapping
led to you being considered the
son of the head of Majestic
right Yeah what
happened I also learned about what
happened to
me from Kyle Jade whom I met
in C4 he showed me from his point of view
what happened to me in
1973 I saw myself being pulled
by the chest Up from the surface of the earth in
this park
I saw how my grandfather did like that and
just fell into
a daze and how he
cried because he couldn't he
yelled at me so much and he couldn't protect
me now I understand God bless him
why he was so
upset about the person he loved so much
and wanted to protect
he failed to protect at that
moment I understand why he was so
upset Rod showed me that they
lifted me up and put me on a table on some
ship and this ship was in the shape of a
chevron, almost triangular in
shape, exchanged by
young guys, one of whom was the
son of the former M1 head of Ma something went
wrong during my stay on this
ship when they took samples from me for
study and the son of the former
mg1 died at that moment. They
attached me to some equipment,
it was after an
electroencephalogram, such a neural
network of
electrode sensor receivers and they were desperate tried
to save him I saw the movement of Jay Rods
around this
boy I know what he looked like and so
on Because I saw it through the eyes
of feces
They tried to save him but in the end he
died and then they Apparently
tried to use all the technology
that they had to save
him through the room
his feces were with the pi plus group for 45,000 years
then Jero from this group they look
at us almost like
flasks containing
electromagnetic
material that can be poured
back and forth and They tried to preserve his
energy so to
speak Yes that's right Marcia suggested the word
vessels
Yes, they tried to save it for a while
in me, it seems that
my memories of myself at that
time are such a narrow-minded, stupid
boy who loved to play
baseball with action figures and so
on, my reputation at that time was
such that I demonstrated a great attraction
to science, this is what the
elementary
school teachers said, but I don’t remember myself like that, that is,
there is a discrepancy between my memories of
myself
because after I was returned
back to that
park over the next two
years, changes occurred in me, but
again they had to be because I was growing up
then but there was a significant
intellectual
shift when I was no longer interested in the
things that interested me
as a child was this growing up probably
partly Yes was it a change as a
result of what was done to me on
board that
ship Majestic believes that Yes they
believe that it has something to do with that
boy because that this boy
showed very good results in the
sciences indeed I have a
craving for cone
test tubes and a microscope which
I have never
had before And this has stayed with me
forever on some level the son of M1
who was also on the
ship you had his soul supposedly transplanted
should have known what happened
right Yes They knew it
happened he told me that They knew
it happened then that is you were
chosen In a
way I think
I'm the only evidence I
have no idea I have no idea the evidence
I have
from what I knew about the sample collection program,
that I was simply taken as a
random sample from
the population, the son of an ordinary
worker. It’s just that my family was a completely
working
family, but
there are also many coincidences that
suggest
that people were placed in the right place
to then train me and that was even
before 1973 I want to say Dada
They knew that this would happen, that I would be
kidnapped and so on, but I can’t
say that because I won’t be honest
then it feels like Marcy
wrote me a two-letter hint,
that is, the mirror project, I understood she
knows
more with us there is a person here
who knows more than the truth but for
some reason cannot tell
me more truth about what happened to
me than I know myself she just gave
me a hint about the Mirror Project she is
hinting that they
knew the future because of what is this machine
that does this yes I want to say that the
Mac used this technology and
perhaps they saw that the first
son would die and planned to prepare
you in advance to take his
place it is possible it is
possible but they never told me
this I'm sorry but the hints were
pretty direct
that it was so I mean,
even I don’t know if He knew completely about
the program God bless it
Jim my mentor Dr. Jim
Reynolds
it was like he was placed in the right
place to be almost perfectly in the
right place When my
mom Dodie called to talk with
him that day in the hospital
and she confessed after that she
confessed to Mars that She
received a sum of money from them what we
are trying to find out is how did you
establish a connection with mg1 after
this the first time I saw him was in the
back of
the conference hall of the George Sea Page Museum
when I was a member of the Los Angeles Microscopy Society
How old were you 13
14 that is A few years after
the incident yes A few years after
I began to become very
interested in microscope flasks and so
on when I was introduced to Jim
Renald Som at the Long
Beach Meryl Medical Center then Jim Renald
introduced me and my mother to John
Dihasom who was then an assistant professor
of protozoology as I remember at the University of
Southern California
he also headed a company called Texas Otica
that sold
microscopes who then connected me with the
Microscopy Society of
Los Angeles Museum
George where he was a board member
senior board member by the way and
During my association with the
microscopy society I saw
Kashi g the
hall in the back door of this conference room
I was sitting on the right at the end of the room this was my
favorite
place I noticed how he just stood there
and mixed with people coming in and
out and he looked at me and I
looked at him because
I felt like he was looking at me too long
I was already nervous
Zane Price was one of them who
headed the electron
microscopy laboratory at the University of California
in Los Angeles these were real
scientists I felt that he fixed
his gaze on me and he took
a lighter it was a zip lighter on it
it said US Navy SEAL he
just opened it
then Zack
who is this I was afraid to ask
someone because I didn’t want to look
stupid I was a geek at the
time God I found out that he just wanted to
introduce himself to me So he wanted to
see where I was in my life at that
time and of course the connection had already been
made by them because of his son Michael and
so on from 1973 it was already September
seventy-six years around this
period. That is, this was my first
meeting with him, I did not get to know him, but
he showed himself
to me. I understand and you
subsequently developed a rather warm relationship and
he really considers you his
son, he treats me like to his son
Yes, but you can say that he considers
you literally his son,
or I want to say he should know about
this shift and transfer of the soul,
right, he knows what happened on board the
ship, we had long conversations on
this topic, and by the way, One day we spent the whole night talking
about this
was said I try to do what is
right
the only reason
why my story should be
published to the
extent that the truth of what I
saw becomes
known and this concerns the topic of
aliens but everything
else That is, when I fell to my knees
like Yam
sil My grandfather is
not necessarily but I am sharing this so that
people know about the experiences of kidnapping others
that this is not someone’s fantasy or fiction
that there are real people behind this No matter how
damaged they were at that
time, I will tell you honestly when I saw
Bill Hamilton’s interview with you where you
talk about your relationship with your family
And how you communicated with him
telepathically it seemed
incredibly real to me from that moment I
was very interested to hear
you because I said to myself This
person really experienced this this is not a
lie this is
real if you could tell me
working with Jer again but he worked with
me before I knew about him. That is,
as I understand it, he was already on board that
ship, I don’t remember him there in the
year seventy-three, but as I understand it, he was there,
he traveled in 1973, this is what I
said radio host Jeff Renz on the
phone God if this doesn't
blow my mind This sure does when
you think about the paradoxes of time for starters
so he traveled to 1973 they
took me and after that he flew Back in
time to
1953 and crashed there that
means that he was held in Sector 4 near
Area 51 in 1973 when I was playing
baseball with my grandfather and he was also
on board that ship
being at the same time in our time and
taking
me it sounds like crazy.
It's a paradox perhaps but this was the first time I
had direct contact with
him in
late
1993 early ninety it was clear
that something was wrong with him throughout
my entire communication with
him he seemed the best How can I
describe in this
dimension almost like he was
physical I felt him through the
glove he was material but almost
as if he was
a ghost with a
body he was not in this place as if
he was not
here at the same time when he communicated when he
made a telepathic transmission
they make these clicks almost
acoustic such wave-like clicks
until they establish a connection with your
brain waves to start
communication come in waves almost like
dolphin clicks then you feel like you are being
pulled into the moment of establishing a connection
the feeling is as if you are being pulled
into his eyes A
very strange awkward
feeling then He puts you in a
weakened State almost to the level of
waves like state 8 grts when you're almost
falling asleep and they say that they won't hurt
you he did it he said that he won't
hurt me when he stood on me there
we did this Neve dance so Jehovah
like a
bride does and he did the same thing in my
direction almost jokingly But it was
terrible because he violated the protocol, that
is, all the Trust that was
established at that moment between us
Just went to
hell, I was so scared It was an animal
fear in me at that
moment, a very human animal
reaction to get out of there to the point that I
fell on my
back and this what I remember about what I
did I told Jeff on the radio I
felt like a cockroach laying on his
back
there and he stood on top of me I heard
them screaming turn on the valve They
were going to suppress him to
hurt him so he wouldn't hurt me I
tried to scream No, I'm not even sure to
this day I really screamed no Or
it was in my head the
stress was very strong at that
moment and he literally walked over
me and sat on my chest he didn't knock me
down someone said that he knocked me
down and so on he couldn’t knock me down
he was too
weak even if he tried to throw
me over he couldn’t given his size
he was a little taller than 90 cm
hunched over
probably almost 20 meters if he
stretched out to his fullest growth lying on his
back but his
illness, the pathologies that He
suffered from, led to the fact that he was
so
weakened, his gait and posture were
changed that most of the time He
was leaning forward strongly and he could not
stand straight when he walked like a
Shark hobble on the floor so he sat on your chest,
he sat on his own, he actually
sat on my
stomach, but leaned forward and rested his hands on
my chest
at that moment he conveyed to you
that he would not harm you Yes, he, I will not touch
you, he called
me that was the word he broke the English
words very strange
and you heard it in your head That is,
it was not out loud Yes, I heard it in my
head with my own inner
voice but obviously not coming from
me you know what your own
inner voice sounds like when you talk to yourself
This the same sound,
only it’s a different style of speech and different
words, you can understand that it’s not you when
it was the first time
I remember from myself When it was the first
time there was a feeling of panic Well, of course it
was the very first time when I was part of the
team and Steen still entered there
instead of me the sterile sphere he
looked at me through the sterile
sphere and spoke to me and he told me
I remember you
Hello I mean he What was his name again
this is
Jero ka Kayla Kayla looked at you
when Steve was in the sterile sphere with him
yes yes He turned and looked at me
I was on the team of the bi department in
fact this was supposed to be My job
there was assisting the chief
scientific specialist until he entered the
sterile Sphere until he Kayla pointed out
me as someone special for
him probably and he wanted me to
go there that's why in the end
I was promoted to be part of the working
group at the base because I did not have
the necessary education and rank and it
was not my place of
work but because of this I was promoted
probably many promotions happen like this
in the
world So he sat on
you and they turned on the valve then no I don’t
think so because I would have felt it
he began to put me into a trance right there
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and very strongly And very strongly enkephalins
endorphins just exploded in
me they put you into a trance on
several levels and can make
you relax by inducing your system with
natural opioids Clearly Euphoria
Runners
is correct What happened after that or
Euphoria before natural death
after
that after that from my consciousness
began to indicate everything that happened in the
sterile
area and from all the panic that
happened on the radio, I heard them
screaming, we had two separate
squad teams and squad b they were on
different
radio frequencies, I could press a button and
talk to them separately, but they were
blocking the auxiliary team
that was supposed to go in there
and you can’t just go in there, you need to put on
clothes
everyone knew someone in the suits before going in
there that the Je's were a threat, so we were
trained and we weren't supposed to communicate
with them personally or anything like that, we had a
specific job and we had to
do
it, it was a scientific work on taking
samples from them then studying the images
to
recreate these chemical
compounds the goal was to
stop the disease that they were
suffering from it was pi n
52000 yes n 52000 and in the beginning we tried
to digress into biology a little bit what we
tried to do in the beginning we tried to
remove the external
cytoplasm from
the cells and
forgive them to function independently without
cytoplasm and understand these cells
biochemical and genetic then
transplant these cells
natively in an attempt to alleviate their
neuropathy this was one of the stated
goals easier said than
done but we were warned that if
something went wrong in the sterile sphere you
shouldn't expect immediate help,
you're certainly not a million miles away from everyone, but
you're technically several thousand miles away from everyone.
So you're all
alone there And even though you have communications and a
radio, it's almost like being isolated
on a space
check it's not so easy to get you back
home because you have to reseal the
intermediate airlock to
let someone in then howl thea
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then get you out of there then
get you out of the suit and then just
give you help and it
takes a couple of hours So if something
goes wrong inside the sphere and they
could potentially harm us because of the
telepathic
connection you are a corpse and you accept it
before you go there there
was bravado on our part we didn’t
say that it’s [ __ ] but it had to be
accepted as a fact just by working at this
facility you knew that if an
infection occurred if the
alarm sounds The joke was like this Bend
over and kiss your ass
goodbye Because if the alarm sounds
you are locked inside
And they start pumping gas inside and
turn on the fuel-air
explosive
boom That's what the
explosive gas release valves were for, the so-called
escape tunnel so you can get out
of there in an emergency No, these are
valves for the release of explosive gases so that
they can blow up part of the object,
release all the gas over the
Papus Mountains and leave the main part of the object
untouched.
So during your experience with Jay Rod
and others with whom you
interacted, you were constantly afraid for your
life I was afraid for my life when he
stood up to me, just as I was afraid at that moment,
yes, it was a very short period
of time, it was a fleeting
moment, it ended very quickly
because biochemistry calmed down
with me. Well, how did you feel in
communication with him, you said that you didn’t
remember
him from the first meeting on the ship
true
no true but he obviously remembered you Yes
he remembered you felt that you
had developed a friendship with him Yes of
course it developed over time or
it was established instantly I
will say so I felt a relationship with him from the
moment when he looked at me for the first time
and this could have been the result of the fact
that I was taken to
Spark's ship this could have been the reason my
trust in what he
said matured over time because I
remember asking you about
this yes my trust in him matured over
time
but I felt some kind of closeness with him,
I think it could have started when I was
taken away in seventy-
three. I think so, I’m trying to
figure out over time, our communication was
more and more
playful. This is
definitely because I have a Strange sense of
humor and he was able to be my friend, this is
Strange sense of
humor when he looked at me and said
what he meant Because I couldn't
tell when he was happy or
sad because of his physical
characteristics you can tell very quickly
whether a person is happy or not If he
smiles at
you but I couldn't tell Was he
in pain, or
what was on his face until he clearly
showed me that it was a smile and that it was a
laugh? As this developed and
my relationship with him developed, I began to
understand his outward manifestation better,
and I think this pushed our relationship with
him because I communicate more easily with another
person through a physical reaction
in
communication, they had less of this so it
was more difficult. It was very
difficult when I became more attuned to
him and relaxed and began to understand what
his physical
manifestations meant when I knew that he was laughing
from - because of this I had Troubles with
people at the
base of Reava Ezi Pronia
or something in response and they
said what is happening between
you I heard it in my ear on the radio Sometimes
I just brazenly say
nothing because I was afraid I didn’t want to
lose his
friendship because I wanted to learn more
from
him so I was ready
I was also ready to be his friend because
he was a prisoner
there just like I felt like a
prisoner inside the
Majestic because I was included in the
program I had no idea what I was
getting into
yeah We were both prisoners, each
in our own way, you thought that he could somehow
protect
you
no, it was more the other way around
I was covering for
him I was hiding his Anger because they
angered him and hurt him and the Anger
was the result of pain due to taking
samples from him
I covered for him without informing them of his
anger because then they would have
followed the protocol for such situations
to punish
him So I covered for
him he was a man Oh my God
if you get poked with needles enough
times you start to
get angry if you have your feet wiped on you
and also
a prisoner there is a prisoner In what sense did they
wipe their
feet on him if he did not react as he was
told they opened the valve they changed the
pressure in the sterile
sphere causing a weak or medium
change in pressure on his
skin Because his density was
less physical density that is the
ratio of mass and volume of
the body and the reason why did I clarify this?
It's because I heard a lot of
talk about fourth density fifth
density. I don't know anything about this. the
ratio of mass to body volume,
he was less dense physically than us,
his bones were less dense, and when
they turned on the pressure valve,
it gave him a strong
pain, I screamed no at the moment when he
stood on me
I think they judged correctly at that
moment because he was clearly establishing a
connection with me. Therefore, if they
turned on the
valve and changed the pressure at that
moment, I would have felt the pain that
he felt. Could it’s to kill me, I don’t know Yes,
because you developed, as I understand it, like in
the film, an alien, you developed the
ability to feel it Pain, it didn’t
develop, it was instantaneous,
what developed, I don’t really know.
Could it be some kind of neurological
addiction? I don’t know for sure But what
developed was my inability
to break the telepathic
connection with
him even after you left the
sterile Sphere
in a certain radius within a
radius of about 15 meters from
him I could for example now you can
feel his pain
no If you wanted to feel e You
helped No I I don’t think I don’t think that they are
capable of doing
that, he’s talking about a different
time, the fact that the physical distance is different
even without a time difference, we’re talking about a
linear
distance. God, how far is it from here to the
constellation of
grids? No, he’s on the
grid now. Yes, as far as I know, as far as I
know, my stomach chi I must be
hungry
I know where he is the information I
have When it happened in
2003 they don't even want to talk about it
with me because it's a very sore
spot between us I did something I
shouldn't have done you pushed him out
temporary me pushed him through the
Stargate device
onto the green area between the pillars
That was the end of your relationship with him Yes
that was the end That was the last time
I saw him That was the end of their
relationship with him too Why were they so
angry I did
it That is, he was a prisoner but at
some point you had
the opportunity, it seems it was in Egypt
Dada they brought you there yes I flew
there and so did he
yes but he was already on another transport
There when I arrived I did what I
shouldn’t have done
you pushed him out I pushed him through the
Stargate device onto the green
area between the
pillars This was the end of your relationship with
him And this was the end This was the last
time Iago saw him This was the end of
their relationship with him too, which is why they were
so
captive but at some point you
had
the opportunity, it seems it was in Egypt yes
yes you were brought here yes I flew there
and he too yes but on a different transport He
was already there When I
arrived there was some kind of communication going on with
him they didn’t tell me anything they didn’t tell me
everything that I was told that they had a
problem communicating with him that I
was there to make him
relax or whatever to help
communication so they wanted me
there
as a theater Idol or as a
symbol I was there to give a
false sense of
kinship the kinship was not false And this is
what they never understood over all these years.
They thought that I felt more kinship
with modern man than with
him, but for me, although he was as if he was not of this
world and looked different,
he was equally human a being and a
person are a person for me,
period. Therefore, there were real friendships between us.
He showed me everything
from his childhood. And I, from mine,
enjoyed each
other’s company and this
friendship was a real friendship. I don’t
think that in Majestics
they ever understood this. they feel
so superior to
everyone and that we are above the
births and perhaps this is a reaction I don’t know I’m
trying to explain This is
rational Maybe this is a reaction to that
I don’t know maybe this is some kind of reaction on
their part to this attitude of the births towards
us I don’t know I I know that he was not taller than
me I was not taller than him he is much smarter
but we are still people just because
someone is smarter does not mean that they are
superior So I am trying to understand why he was
in
Egypt and he Yano worked with them the
communications that went on Sun time
Many years after our program almost
10 years later 10 years Well, it ended in
the
afternoon and there were some more meetings in the
afternoon But it was all finished you
say that it happened recently when
you pushed him into the portal it happened at the
end of 2003
years, I could say from the relationship with
him that he
is honest with
me, there are those who criticize me and
say Okay, this guy is 52,000 years
more developed
evolutionarily And this does not necessarily make
him smarter and certainly not a crime if
you look at his
pathologies, but could he be man
lie to me Yeah
Yeah and we talked to each other about lying
the majestic didn't know about it he told me
about things that would happen in the
future minor things usually
minor
things but there were very significant things
of course but these minor things then
happened and it showed me that he's
really from the future and that he has
access to this data because no one
has conversations that will happen with someone
I knew because he was honest I could
feel his heart that's all we
can do really in this
situation they turned This is a joke on the
Coast to Coast radio show and Coast to
Coast with Bill
Imp and George Noory are you ready to come
forward and take a polygraph test no
because the Polygraph doesn't work If
the Polygraph worked we wouldn't need
a jury
we're judging O other people by their
honesty by empirical
evidence and
data but also by their spirit by their
heart and why I judged him is
because I sensed in him his Heart his
consciousness I judged him by his attitude towards
his child because how he treated to
his mother
on all the things on the basis of which we humans
evaluate each
other on the same things these common features
were in
him Yes there were very unusual aspects of their
society their denial of emotions denial of
personal ones in society VMs still remained
it was a common feature of people that is
still was present in them and in his time
and I based my sober opinion
of
him on this God I hope that I judged correctly
that he was a good
person So you helped him
enter the Stargate I pushed the capsule
with him on a gurney similar to a Segway they
looked almost like the glass covers
on the gurney, the handles were almost at
waist level, you could push it in any
direction, you needed very little
force to make it go and he asked to go
home. So you pushed him and what
happened to you when you did this, I
pushed him and the next feeling was
complete
confusion I thought for a second that I screwed up I
killed myself by accident because I was
completely
numb throughout my whole body then I remember a
flash of gray
color and then I coughed
on a block 20 or 30 meters
away I remember people running towards me
over the top
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directed dramatically machine guns
grabbed me, lifted me from the
block, they told me you were
under arrest, I violated
the protocols and they poked me in the head
with a weapon and
asked What did he tell
you Are you a
spy, they were just acting
paranoid No I was not a spy I just
pushed her into the Stargate and before dating
What happened How did you How Majestic
reacted After that they were very
angry very
angry including the people
closest to
me besides who is present
here and how Majestic behaves when
they are angry that is, you were tortured
I wouldn’t call it torture Besides
me being illegal they kept me
locked up, this is
torture, a couple of times I was placed in C4 at the
base on the third level And
they said you will sit here
until the third level That is, this is a prison
cell No, it was one of the rooms from the
apartments, even those that were originally
built of these apartments are only 12
Three groups of
four and I was put in the department one
on the left, everything was there with all the amenities I could
ask for food and everything I wanted I just
couldn’t leave there There was no freedom I
consider this torture
other examples are ill-wisher actions
and malevolent actions on the part of
the Majestic vary
from psychological unkind just
rudeness to threats and physical
actions I was
beaten I was slapped on the cheeks I was physically
restrained handcuffed they were beaten I was slapped
on the
cheeks I was placed under bright lights even
my friends did this to
me I was placed under bright lights When
I was handcuffed and
interrogated I was told close your mouth,
two people grabbed me, one pushed
me to the floor in the garage and the other stepped
on me and broke my
arm. That is, these were active members
of the Majestic who attacked you. Yes, but
not someone from the Committee of Twelve, these
were
operatives, that is, the security service,
of course I mean, not anyone from the
D. Oh no, no one from the DTI ever laid
a finger on me they treated me with great
kindness I guess how a person shows
kindness to a
pet Yes she mentioned the last name
Tenet George Tenet
God I better watch my language
Yeah I'm starting to talk too much chat
if jr was the director of the
US central intelligence agency now
We are moving
on So what you said Majestic
interested
me
Sorry BC is normal
So you want to say that Majestic
functions independently of the
government
correctly and yes and no and yes and no they were made
independent from the direct subordination of the
President back in the late
forties However, many people who
were or are members of Group 12 are
very closely associated with the US government
at the highest
level.
Okay, it's time to put on your
tap dancing shoes, that is, These people gave
orders because you violated protocol
pushed the family into the
Stargate they ordered that you be taken into
custody and beaten
But by that time all the
beatings had happened even before that they
simply did not know what to do with
me It was such a surprise for
everyone including
myself that they simply did not know what to
do so they
did nothing yes, they dragged me around the base in
Egypt and dragged me back to the States, but
after that they essentially told me to
go
home, they didn’t know what to do with me, that
is, this is the reason why you were fired
from Majestic because of this incident no
no the time was coming when my usefulness
for this work was exhausted
with them I worked there for 20
years my physical condition
deteriorated I was
physically unwell Therefore I
was no longer of any use in the laboratory, but why
did it happen as far as I know the old
Majestic composition was dissolved
Yes, now a new composition is in force and this is
no longer those people who were in the old composition
True true So Why
Why did they change the state of affairs in the World Cup
the goal was a rotation between two
secret
societies, one transfers control
to the other it was planned for a long time, while
I learned about it only recently but
it was planned for a long time Probably
for decades I am sure that this has been known for
decades, that is, Mac is controlled by a
secret society whose tale
was the most famous secret society
in itself, probably only second to the
Freemason in
fame. There are many Freemasons
who are members of the Majestic
as a result of their connections and relationships, all
this happens
at the same time and their philosophies and philosophies
of these secret societies
both Scottish and York Rite Freemasons
became part of the secret society
known as Majestic
because you carry yourself everywhere you
go but in the World Cup the dispute between the
Majestic group and the
Illuminati is a very good
question This is the best question that can be
asked even more important than
Here and
now many
people in the higher echelons I don't mean
those who work in construction
of course most people in the upper
echelons of the Masonic
movement including the York Shatlan
rituals have accepted a philosophy that
is
luciferin both
contextually and
historically also many people who
are not directly members of
the Majestic but have also accepted this
philosophy Luciferianism
they have been in contact with each other for
decades Perhaps even longer
Therefore at some point in history
a schism occurred when those who accepted the Luciferian
history philosophy mixed
within the majestic with other secret
societies that are not
Luciferian dito
as another church denomination that is
not associated with the
suits So we have bad
guys on both
sides Okay And when you say
luciferian philosophy I mean
materialistic
and largely
Illuminati satanic
philosophy where they dedicated their lives
their family their honor to this satanic
idea of ​​​​creating a world
order under the leadership of whoever they
believe the true God who is a
luciferin figure but These people are also
Grum
ma These people have
also accepted the influence of negative
births and plus
45000 who want to justify their
history through our destruction and move
us from timeline o to
timeline 2 in Caroli
from these
luciferin real Illuminati Damn they
not even real Illuminati this word
means
enlightened These people are not enlightened
they are just under the influence of the false
Light the difference
between these two groups has reached
its peak
Although there is a lot in common between them and
in the majestic group
there are a
lot of God-fearing people decent
people I'm not talking about DTI now I'm talking
about the people working there with whom We
worked good people from the marrow to the
very
core who want only good for the
world
So you want to say in essence that
some kind of alliance has formed between the so-
called
Illuminati who worship
Satan
Yeah and they are together with those who called themselves
pi n
45,000 and the Majestic group Although it
contains some of the Illuminati, it essentially
stands on the side of Pi n 52,000, yes, I would
not even say that they are
Freemasons, these are Freemasons who accepted the
Luciferin
philosophy. I personally do not agree with it, they
are influenced by this philosophy, but
at the same time they act like good
people for the benefit of
humanity for the benefit of
humanity and then there are
some that I have dealt with who
are collaborating with the so called true
Illuminati vro
decent
people On both sides there are bad
guys and good
guys However the bad guys make up the
vast majority in the
European
Illuminati group okay Come on let's move on to
the time lines and explain everything briefly, we are
talking about the future and
2012 What do the
45,000 say, that is, they are from the future in
45,000 years Yes, in 45,000 years on another
time line not on the one we are on
now on the line to which we can
go From there where are we
now So if it happens, we will move, God
forbid, from the time line to
time line
2 45,000 years and 52,000 years, respectively, in
our
future, the guys who fell near growing up
in New Mexico
in the year forty-seven were 24,000 years in
our future also timeline 2
And this was a mission of time travel
to our Earth in this
timeline, as far as I understand, we are on the first
timeline now, and we are moving
to 2012, a catastrophe that
theoretically could happen Yes, somewhere in
our
time, as far as I
heard, a catastrophe could be
caused by the fact that as we pass
through the galactic plane of the Milky
Way there will be some kind of release of energy from the
plane through
wormholes that move from the center
of the Galaxy to the
outside which were depicted in ancient
folklore and called the serpentine rope
and that this serpentine rope will return at
the end of time by calendar of May and will open
something, there are different versions of what she
will open,
but at the same moment, as the story of
Jay Rod says, this energy
release will cause a malfunction of the sun and
that, together with energy emissions
from
the sun and from wormholes that will
pass through our planet, will be
provoked catastrophe by
these devices for time travel
Stargate and time viewing device
mirrors that will spontaneously turn on and
direct an excessively large amount of
energy into the earth's
crust causing
and this catastrophe according to the history of Jay
Rod Orion Owls will cause the death of 4 billion
157 million people within a few years
due to geophysical shift in the earth's
crust and this is
what I don't have when I think about these numbers
is what someone is trying to prevent
Yes yes absolutely true and how this will be
prevented through the
deactivation and destruction of this
technology in which case we will naturally
pass through these serpentine
cords emissions will occur so it doesn't
mean I haven't seen them
physically emissions will occur
waves will reach the
earth And will
gradually and naturally make
changes in the human species and life on
our
planet and these changes will be
positive for people and
Frankly I believe that this is already
happening all over the world there is an
upsurge I don’t think it’s just because of
population growth
there is a rise of very spiritual and
talented
people the number of Sawan Tovs
or
Indigo children has increased this is definitely from what I
read about them a real
phenomenon these are the children of the new time
I think these are the children of the first time
line we see in these
children these amazing guys what
we will be in the future at the next stage of
evolution not in millions of years but already at the
next
stage and this is an amazing Step forward
which I think will cause the next
Renaissance on
earth I see that this is already
happening the numerical data that we
received before the mirror was
turned off and
dismantled that there is a
nineteen percent probability with a
certainty of
85% that a catastrophe will occur and that there
will be a transition from timeline 1
to timeline 2. But this means that with a
probability of 81 it will
not happen,
so people who adhere to the
negative version of me I am convinced that this
will happen, they simply do not face
the fact, these are the facts that we have that
we know about, that is, you are saying
that the Illuminati, returning to this topic,
is the side that
believes that there will be a transition from one
timeline to another, they do not just
believe that this is
what they the benefit of
this Why would they want to be
45000 they don't want those who are alive today
don't want to they look at p45,000 as a
means to achieve today's
goals they won't live that long they'll
just live an ordinary human
life and die and they want to seize
control that's how amol These
people
that we have a catastrophe that
justifies their own
history want to use the Illuminati
as a means to an end, that is,
suppression of the population and more control
for
themselves, they don’t care, they just want everything for
themselves, these are people who really
don’t care or almost
don’t care And then what they will still
have to survive the changes on Earth
after and the cataclysms are true Yes, but these are also
people who have a guaranteed
place in safe places in underground
bases and so on, so they are
considered it is not known
exactly But they are considered the ancestors of people
who will
later become Jero
dami, I understand but In a sense there is an
understanding that the 45000 version of
humanity becomes almost
soulless they become spiritually
depressed they still have souls
because even after 7000 years of
development I could still see the soul the same
way we see the soul of another person I
could see the soul in
the Kae was not P 45,000 No, he was PS
52,000 But this just means that he was
7,000 years ahead along the second
timeline from p45,000, that is, he was or his
people were once p45,000 and p-46 47
48 Yes, okay, so his soul didn’t
go anywhere, but again, you know
well. You can say that some
people don’t have a soul,
the Nazis, how much soul did they have when
they threw my grandfather into that
carriage? How much soul did they have? You know,
they had the same human soul
no matter how blackened it was And
no matter how buried in their
damaged brains I still Pray
for them that even they were reconciled with
God they still had a soul although it
was
suppressed in the same way p 45,000 have a
soul Okay You said about rinv p 52000
births p 52000 true Yes, what caused
the split because ANS is the Nordic
blondes true Orion are those who decided
not to go into shelter When
the disaster happened they are survivors who did not go
underground a
good part
of humanity I mean I don’t think
any part of humanity is good I
consider
the spirit more positive because I consider the spiritual aspects
of humanity
to be positive That is, you are saying that the
Nordico line is more
spiritual Yes, it is extremely
spiritual like the Nordico line
that they do not go into hiding they first
leave the
earth lineages or their ancestors remain on
Earth for a very long
time much longer than 24,000 years After the
transition that is 24,000 years from
today because they were
24,000 years older than us when they Fell in the
Roses in the year it was
p2000 they say that Oreon sy go
first first after the restoration of
society on
earth technology is restored and
so on they move to the storage site
of the ark And where is it on the object closest to us
on the
moon Where on the moon I won’t talk
Okay So you’re saying that the Nordics
fly away from Earth if a disaster
occurs or Regardless, they fly away
after after the disaster presumably
In a few thousand years after
the catastrophe And after a few thousand years I
thought that after the catastrophe they fly away
on spaceships or something like that
No no no they move to the moon
After a few thousand years on a
spaceship they get to the storage site of the
ark and they found a new
community from there they move to
Mars from Mars to
As far as I understand you this is what we
look at with our telescopes today Where do we
receive light in our time with a
delay of a few minutes Yes a few
minutes which is reflected from objects on the
surface of Mars but you are saying that we
are looking at the probable future I don't
understand correctly, our timeline is
being
influenced by what came into being, this is the information
that I received not only from but also
from
our reality and our
timeline is being influenced due to the
amount of time travel
that was carried out by
them Each time they returned
Back to time, they caused small
paradoxes that accumulated and
formed the reality that we
now perceive as reality, that
is, a Newtonian superposition occurs,
put money in the bank Every time
they move from that is, 45,000 and
Rather, it creates an even larger pile of
change. I don’t know if there is a
causal -the consequential connection between the
overlap that is created by the amount of
their time travel and the
catastrophe itself. I think that the catastrophe itself,
from everything I have heard and read, is a
direct consequence
of man-made directing too
much energy at us.
So you are essentially saying that there are two
time
lines, I am sure what do you know what they say
in physics now that if there can be two
time lines then maybe 2
mil But don’t we already have TX or
four time lines we are talking about p24
45000 52000 and today how many
time
lines are these Why did ma know that
a disaster can
happen That is, they have a technology
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mirror that They used you
used Well, not me
personally and you participated in the discovery of this
technology No no no this is Ancient
technology based on Sumerian
cylinder seals
that were provided to us by the people of our
future, that is, negative
p45 we would not have this
wonderful technology Dada if it
had not been placed in our past for us
to use it
now all this technology must
either be deactivated or
destroyed Okay this mirror technology
comes from cylinder seals
originally Yes this was a series of instructions
for accessing the mouth burrows which
naturally pass through
the time we are in and based on this they
developed this technology and created a
device according to these
instructions after they created
the device they started experimenting
with
it they began to discover a lot of
interesting things and one of the things they
discovered was that they could
use it as a portal for
peeping in to observe different
aspects of not only the future but also the past
these are Sumerian artifacts,
I would say that they were a little earlier than the
Sumerian
period and that part of the information that
was on
them belongs to the pre-Sumerian
period. Then they were copied already on the
Sumerian cylinder seals
of the Egyptian oh yes and all these seals
as far as I know were already collected by
us from Iraq Some from Iraq
Some from Egypt and other countries where
they were
stored and I don’t want these countries to
have trouble
now why is this technology
being used
now and isn’t Wormhole the same the
very thing is Stargate
Yes, this technology is no longer used
Wherever we find it we take it
Who are we because there are two warring
sides The Illuminati is Majestic we are like the
USA we are part of the
UN
NATO I don’t want to comment on who
controls the NATO Alliance at the
moment would try Steal this technology from you
since they want it to
happen their goal should be to decorate and
top hats and put them somewhere where they
can use
them Yes but they can't act as
aggressors to steal something so
they vote against us just like that
stops mirror technology this
is manifested in the
UN but we had mirror technology and a
real Stargate portal in
Iraq back in early
2003 and many countries did not want us to
enter Iraq but we entered anyway Isn’t that
right But how is Mar Gaddafi just
gave my two voluntarily we just
told him that we would make him rich King
Solomon and he turned out to be a little smarter than
Sadam that's all and he just gave them away
he said Please come to my
country Look at my equipment
to make sure that I'm not making
any weapons of mass
destruction in that At the same moment, through the back
door, he gives away two sets of
equipment that Sadam gave him for
safekeeping before, the cylinders Well,
the equipment that activates the
Stargate so that they experiment with it,
but if the mirror technology
also acts like a mouth hole,
in fact, yes, it also acts like a
Stargate But this is according to essentially the same thing I
used the term Stargate
for a machine that opens a
wormhole through the dispersion of energy or
matter or something else I'm not a physicist
dissipate energy in a form that
allows communication and transfer of
information this also includes physical
bodies But this also occurs naturally
formed Naturally, yes, how to close them,
they don’t need to be closed, it’s not necessary, in
the history of the future it is written that the
natural passage of our world through
this
energy is positive for us and only
the use of technology provokes
a catastrophe; our strengthening is a
natural energy system;
excessive strengthening provokes
catastrophes.
I think that the energy through which we
we go through this is part of what happens to
us naturally changes us in a positive
way this is part of the loving Universe of
which we are a part I think that this is
most
likely one of the factors, it may not be all
But one of the factors for the appearance of these
beautiful children children
Indie natural Stargate in
alone Yes we should leave nature
alone remove our hands remove them from the
tree of life so
to speak step aside and just
let nature do its work during
this period it will be good for everyone
However we have people who
resist this because they
want what they want
a
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